The Morning After: Defense is Back, Otto Fired Up
by Hire Esherick on Feb 26, 2012 10:57 AM EST
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Georgetown vs. Villanova: No. 9 Hoyas never trail in 67-46 rout of Wildcats - The Washington Post
"I just remember going after the ball and just getting hit out of nowhere," Porter said. "I was fired up and so were my teammates. I think they kind of read my mind."
Porter Starts, Leads No. 9 Hoyas Over Villanova " CBS DC
Georgetown held a 41-24 advantage on the glass as five players finished with six rebounds. The 21-point win was the most lopsided victory in the series since 1996 when Georgetown defeated Villanova 106-68.
Snakebit Villanova falls 67-46 to No 9 Georgetown - Boston.com
Then Georgetown’s Otto Porter took a 3-pointer that hit the front of the rim, tantalizingly bounced up and fell into the net. Momentum stopped. If it’s possible to cite one crucial moment in a 21-point loss, that unlucky break would rank near the top in the Wildcats’ 67-46 loss to the Hoyas on Saturday. "That was a big play,’’ Villanova coach Jay Wright said. "Because that was the end of the shot clock. We had had a good defensive possession, they didn’t have anywhere to go, and we just gave him a little bit too much space there. That was a big shot.’’
Recap: Georgetown vs. Villanova - Sacramento Sports - Kings, 49ers, Raiders, High School Sports | Sacramento Bee
"I thought Otto was good," said Georgetown head coach John Thompson III. "I thought it was a team effort today. If you look at the scoring and the rebounding also, I thought everyone came to play."
Hoya Prospectus: Recap: Georgetown 67, Villanova 46
In spite of shooting a combined 1-9 on 3FGs, Hollis Thompson and especially Jason Clark did what upperclassmen do - they adjusted their game to take advantage of what was working (getting in the paint). Hollis' free throw stroke is making me sad, though.
Postgame Quotes - GUHoyas.com
On the team's offensive rebounding down the stretch... There was a lot of effort tonight going after the ball. Henry particularly, there were several plays where not just the rebounds when you're standing under the basket and you get it, but you see him running in from the perimeter and he either gets it or keeps it alive for someone else to get it. We have to continue to do that.
Vox Populi " Postgame Roundup: Hoyas 67, Wildcats 46
After the team’s worst defensive performance of the season against Seton Hall on Tuesday, the Hoyas worked on returning to their typical, stingy ways, holding the Wildcats to 28 percent shooting on the afternoon. Mouphtaou Yarou and Maalik Wayns, their two most potent offensive threats, were largely irrelevant today as they shot just 3-20 combined. Head Coach John Thompson III, for one, was pleased with his team’s bounceback performance in a game where his Hoyas never trailed. "We’ve exhausted it this week – we were not good against Seton Hall defensively and I thought we were very good today," said Thompson. "I thought we were 180 degrees from where we were the other day."
Wright impressed with Hoyas' Clark - Georgetown Hoyas - CBSSports.com RapidReports
Wildcats coach Jay Wright had nothing but praise for Hoyas’ G Jason Clark, who scored 15 points in the 67-46 Georgetown win. "I think he is one of the best players in the country," he said. "If his goal was to get 30 tonight, he could have. He’s just an assassin."
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quietest blog ever
USF wins over Cincy. Huge result for Georgetown, I believe, as we hold the tiebreaker, no?
yes
A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the Pitt and Cuse fans that need the advice.
by Hibbert4Three on Feb 26, 2012 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
How did we lose to cincy again
Stupid kilpatrick. We want louisville to lose to pitt i guess?
by bunk moreland on Feb 26, 2012 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Stop posting so loud
My head is killing me.
by StPetersburgHoya on Feb 26, 2012 4:25 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Huge indeed
Back to controlling our own destiny for a double-bye.
by Vee Sanford's Next-door Neighbor on Feb 26, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
5am bedtime
will do that to a girl…
by Hoya Saxual on Feb 26, 2012 3:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Almost
Found myself rooting for UConn over a team from Canada. So close, but not quite. I realized I would cheer the Al Qaida all star team over Cuse.
has a remarkable command of the obvious ..
"we tryn to win this shit"
Al Qaida lost a lot of height in the blocks
When Osama went on the permanent DL.
by John Coctostan on Feb 26, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
I understand
despite having lived in Portugal, during the World Cup I found myself rooting for Spain against Holland the minute the announcers called them “The Orange.”
I showered for two hours afterwards, but it was still the right thing to do.
New sig tba
by PerryMcDonald'sRightCross on Feb 26, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
I know everyone is hung-over right now but can someone explain how we get the Double Bye?
Winning out, I know.
But is a win against ND enough? Or would that require help?
No we would still need help..
If we go beat ND
and Usf and Nati lose 1 of their last 2..
We will be guaranteed no worse than 4th..
Well..
Winning out actually now guarantees us the #3 seed. If Marquette loses to Cincinnati Wednesday, it would give us a #2.
Here are a few scenarios for the #4 seed:
1. USF pulls two more out of their ass and gets to 13-5, and we end up at 12-6. (No double-bye for us, would get #5 or #6)
2. We end up in a two-way tie with USF at 12-6. (#4 seed)
3. We end up in a three-way tie with USF and Louisville at 12-6. (#4 seed)
4. We end up in a three-way tie with USF and Cincy at 12-6. If our last win comes against ND, we get the #4 seed. If it comes against Marquette, it goes to Cincy and we get the #5.
5. We end up in a four-way tie with USF, Cincy, and Louisville at 12-6 (or 11-7). (#5 seed for us, #4 goes to Cincy)
6. We end up alone at 11-7, in 8th. (#8 seed, and every member of this blog steps onto the ledge.)
by Vee Sanford's Next-door Neighbor on Feb 26, 2012 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
Except the lowest we can finish is a 7 seed
I know. Math is hard.
by DaymondMyles on Feb 26, 2012 5:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Scenarios
If we beat ND but lose at Marquette, that makes us 12-6 in the conference. Remember you need finish in the top 4 in the conference to get a double bye.
Syracuse (clinched) and Marquette (14-4/15-3) would be the 1 and 2 seeds. We could finish 3rd, 4th, or 5th. 3rd is only possible if ND loses its last game at home to Providence. That’s unlikely but anything can happen, etc. Assume for now they win; if so, they can’t be caught for 3rd.
Only two teams can catch us for 4th: USF and Cincy. Both must go 2-0 to do so.
USF is currently tied with us at 11-5, but we have the tiebreaker over them since we won the only meeting this year. They therefore need to win at Louisville on Wednesday AND beat WV at home on Saturday to get to 13-5 and take 4th (they’d then be tied with ND, but ND owns the tiebreaker).
Cincy is currently 10-6. 2-0 gets them to 12-6, but they own the tiebreaker over us since they won the matchup in Verizon this year. To get there, they have to beat Marquette at home on Wednesday and win at Villanova on Saturday.
Chances of either team going 2-0 are probably less than 50% – they’d have to win on another Big East team’s Senior Night when seeding is likely on the line for both teams. USF in particular has not beaten anyone decent on the road this year. But it’s entirely possible.
USF beating Cincy today was huge. I’d much rather take my chances with either team going 2-0 than with Cincy only having to go 1-1.
IF ND loses to Providence, then they are also at 12-6. They have beaten USF but lost to Cincy (and will have lost to us). If there’s a 2-way tie at 12-6, we take it over ND. If there are more teams involved, it gets complicated. Anyone know the Big East rules for this?
As far as I can tell it does not change anything for us if go 1-1 by beating Marquette and losing at home to ND – except that ND would then win this tiebreaker, and things might get more difficult for us in the multi-way tie scenario.
Executive Summary:
Beat Notre Dame. Root for Louisville and Marquette on Wednesday. If all three results go our way, the game @ Marquette is just for seeding. And to be honest I wouldn’t mind being #4. I really want that rematch with Syracuse.
by nathan_richardson on Feb 26, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
Tiebreaker rules
Ok, I looked it up and spent too much time on the tiebreaker scenarios.
The Big East resolves 3+ team ties by treating the teams as a mini-conference. (http://www.bigeast.org/fls/19400/pdfs/men_basketball/tie-breaker10.pdf)
We do great under this system if we beat ND. It’s made much less complex by the fact that all the relevant teams (ND, USF, Cincy, us) only play each other once and, with one exception, those games have already been played.
First, remember that this only happens (with the Hoyas involved) if we beat ND and they lose to Providence, making it possible for teams to be tied at 12-6 in the conference. In addition to the Hoyas (11-5), only ND (12-4), USF (11-5), Cincy (10-6), and Louisville (10-6) can finish 12-6. (The system might also be used to break our ties for 5th or 6th place, but I’m assuming you don’t care about those).
USF and Louisville play each other on Wednesday, and Louisville must win to finish 12-6. Doing so means that USF can’t finish any higher than 12-6. If USF wins, however, then goes on to beat Nova on Saturday, they will be 13-5, taking the 3 or 4 seed. If ND loses to Providence, however, it’s still possible for the Hoyas to take away the 4 seed (heartbreak for the Breyniacs).
In a 3-way tie with USF and ND, we would be the 3 seed:
3: Hoyas: 2-0
4: ND: 1-1
5: USF: 0-2
In a 3-way tie with ND and Louisville, we would be the 3 or 4 seed:
3/4: Hoyas: 2-0
4/5: ND: 1-1
5/6: Louisville: 0-2
- if USF goes 2-0, they are the three seed and we are the four. This assumes they go 0-2. If they go 1-1, they’re involved in the mini-conference.
In a 3-way tie with Cincy and ND, we would be the 4 or 5 seed:
3/4: Cincy: 2-0
4/5: Hoyas: 1-1
5/6: ND: 0-2
- if USF goes 2-0, they finish 13-5 and take the 3 seed, pushing the mini-conference down a slot and, therefore, pushing us out of a double bye. Note that there are only two scenarios where this is possible, since Louisville must beat USF to go 12-6 and get into the tiebreaker.
In a 4-way tie with Cincy, USF, and ND, we would be the 4 seed:
3: Cincy: 2-1 (win tiebreaker)
4: Hoyas: 2-1
5: ND: 1-2 (win tiebreaker but still miss out on double bye)
6: USF: 1-2
In a 4-way tie with Cincy, Louisville, and ND, we would be the 4 seed:
3/4: Cincy: 3-0 (win tiebreaker)
4/5: Hoyas: 2-1
5/6: ND: 1-2 (win tiebreaker but still miss out on double bye)
6/7: Louisville: 0-3
- Same situation here if USF goes 2-0 – they are the 3 seed and no double bye for the Hoyas. Getting the 4 seed here depends on USF going 0-2. If they go 1-1, they’re in the mix. They do that either by beating Louisville and pushing them down to 11-7 (previous scenario) OR by losing to Louisville and beating WV at home, creating a….
A 5-way tie (!), in which we would be the 4 seed:
3: Cincy: 3-1 (win tiebreaker)
4: Hoyas: 3-1
5: ND: 2-2
6: Louisville: 1-3 (win tiebreaker)
7: USF: 1-3
In other words, if we beat ND and they lose to Providence, we are assured a double bye unless Cincy and USF BOTH go 2-0. So we should still root against these teams.
by nathan_richardson on Feb 26, 2012 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
After all that, yaboynyp above said it first:
If we go beat ND
and Usf and Nati lose 1 of their last 2..
We will be guaranteed no worse than 4th..
by nathan_richardson on Feb 26, 2012 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
Markel really must have pissed JT3 off
never seen a coach be so up in the air about a player. Almost like he’s expecting Markel to make amends or something. I think he’s learned his lesson.
Markel ???
The difference between this and other recent G-town teams is defense, in particular 2 aspects: the ability to play the pick and roll, and the way to stop the 3. The length of this team certainly contributes to both. Think about this though: Markel was awful vs. The Hall on offense and J-Theo lit him up like the Washington monument.
Hope he gets back in the graces of JT3. He’s a good kid and often is a good player. But don’t ever F with the Thompsons !
Someone has probably already noted this but
As I watched the game yesterday I realized Hollis just hasn’t been the same since he cut is fro. I haven’t done the statistical analysis, but it is clear that his lack of hair is hurting his jump shot. I just hope he has enough time to grow it back before the tournament.
I'm looking forward to
a day of near non-stop blogging action. Casual Awards from the Nova game, SWTE, Pregame Party, Games that Matter…. I’m hoping none of these Pulitzer-worthy features has been cut in the interest of time. Its not a stretch to say I’m relying on these things to survive this Monday
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