Mardi Gras Massacre: Seton Hall Smokes Georgetown 73-55
Georgetown shouldn't have even gotten off the bus tonight. The Seton Hall Pirates destroyed the #8 Georgetown Hoyas 73-55 in a game that was out of reach by the time the first half ended. Pirates guard Jordan Theodore dropped a cool 29 points on 8-11 shooting and 5-5 from three point range. Herb Pope, despite his Pillsbury Dough Boy frame, scored 12 points and grabbed 6 rebounds. The Pirates shot above 60% from both inside and outside the three point line.
As inept as Georgetown was on the defensive end, they were even worse offensively. Four different Pirates scored in double figures, while not one Hoya did. Jordan Theodore outscored THE ENTIRE Georgetown starting five. I had the pleasure of watching the game in the lovely Prudential Center in Newark, New Jersey and I can tell you that it looked like the entire Georgetown team had pooped itself with no one able to clean it up.
After The Jump, more rambling.
Georgetown's two seniors - Jason Clark and Henry Sims - looked like the sophomore versions of themselves tonight. Gone was the assertive Clark, who has shown the ability to score from anywhere on the floor. Instead, Clark sat behind the three point line waiting for others to create. In addition, he got torched by Theodore time and again as if Theodore was wearing green and had the name "Bassett" on the back of his jersey. Sims was dreadful tonight, never establishing position against the chubby Pope, and turned the ball over sloppily nearly every time he touched the ball. Jabril Trawick and Greg Whittington were solid off the bench, combining for 17 points, but neither have the ability to take over the game on the offensive end, especially when Georgetown was down double digits basically the entire second half.
What was troubling about tonight's game, amongst other things, was the inability to stop the hot shooter. We've seen this team shut down Darius Johnson-Odom in the second half during a thrilling comeback against Marquette. Yet, time and again, one player seems to singlehandedly beat Georgetown. This year it has been Sean Kilpatrick of Cincinnati, Kris Joseph of Syracuse, Truck Bryant of West Virginia, and Theodore tonight. It's one thing for a skilled big man like Thomas Robinson to do it, because Georgetown is thin in the front court, but for guards to do it is a whole different matter. This year we have good perimeter defenders - Clark, Trawick, and Whittington - so there is no excuse for one of them not to lock down.
26 games into the season, we all know what this team's flaws are, and we all know our shortcomings. In the next few weeks, we need Sims to regain his mojo and put the last few weeks behind him. Nate Lubick needs to stop getting silly over-the-back fouls. Jason Clark and Markel Starks need to look to penetrate. Hollis Thompson has to find ways to get shots, and the coaches need to put him in a position to do so, similar to the Connecticut game. The defense will return, part of it was coming out flat tonight, which allowed Seton Hall to gain confidence that propelled them throughout the game. The other part of it was the dirty little secret that sometimes bad shots go in. Theodore had a career night tonight, knocking down impossible shots from all over the court. He is shooting 38% from the field this season and under 30% from beyond the arc. It happens sometimes.
Like I said before, the defense will come back. I fully believe this team will get to the Sweet 16, even with tonight's stinkbomb. All things considered, it's better for a game like this to happen in February than in the first or second round of the NCAA Tournament. Besides free throw shooting and turnovers, my main concern for the next month+ is our big man play. The efforts of Lubick, Sims, and Mikael Hopkins over the past month are not going to cut it in March. Obviously, the key is Sims, who facilitates the offense and gets the bulk of the minutes of the bigs. We've seen him make massive strides his senior year, and play like one of the better big men in the country. With only so many games left in his collegiate career, he needs to look himself in the eye and regain his confidence. Enough complaining at the referees, enough falling all over the floor, and enough finessing around the rim. It's time for the big fella to man up.
If the Hoyas want to salvage any chance of getting a double bye in the Big East Tournament, Saturday's game must be a win. Villanova is next.
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This game...
may have just dropped us from a 3-seed to a 7-seed in Bracketology. I think I’m going to be sick.
I marched on Leavey to keep the Pub open in the 90's.
we dropped from #13 in rpi to #14.
lost to a top 30 rpi team on the road. luckily margin of defeat isnt used…
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Feb 21, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
its not the end of the world
but you can see it from here
Cuse delenda est
Trying not to overreact....
but this loss could have disastrous consequences on the entire season. It was just…horrible. Bad, as bad can be.
I marched on Leavey to keep the Pub open in the 90's.
And I honestly thought the Pitt loss was the bottom...
until tonight. But then again, maybe this is bottom, and we go up from here.
I marched on Leavey to keep the Pub open in the 90's.
trawick agrees
Never again can we do that, but they played their best game… We ain’t trippin, time to hit the lab, and come back even stronger for Nova!
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Feb 21, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
This kind of thing
is exactly what prevents me from defaulting to “SEASON-ENDING LOSS” as in the last couple years. This team has so far shown a toughness and resilience that has been lacking, and I trust them to bounce back or die trying. Out of respect for that, I remain optimistic about the rest of the season and March.
by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Feb 21, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
the twitter of a freshman prevents it?
Captain FURY
by JahidiLikesPie on Feb 21, 2012 11:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yup
This team had a definite lack of Twitter toughness before, but Jabril really brings it all day every day on the Twittertubes.
by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Feb 22, 2012 8:57 AM EST up reply actions
everybody needs to cool out
let’s not worry too much about lunardi’s seeding predictions, just finish the season out and go from there. we need to win out, get double-bye, then win one game in the Big East Tourney. We’ll be fine from a seeding perspective – we need to worry about our play rather than our seeding.
TX Hoya is probably right.
Not trying to get caught up in the seeding issue, just discouraged as hell tonight after such a flat performance and bad loss on the road to an unranked team. Yeah, it the BE, I get it, but our guys need to be playing at their best about this time of year, and that shit didn’t cut it tonight.
I marched on Leavey to keep the Pub open in the 90's.
If Seton Hall wants to start a football team and jump to the ACC
Those crowd control guys would be a good place to start
by rochesterhoya07 on Feb 21, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Horrible game for gtwn tonight. Looking forward to putting this game behind and focusing on Nova next.
by Gtownfan92 on Feb 21, 2012 10:37 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
This Markel Starks thing...
is starting to bug me
by VictorPage'sLeftEye on Feb 21, 2012 10:37 PM EST reply actions
no reason at all he should be taking the most shots on the team
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Feb 21, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
even if half of them were wide open
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Feb 21, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
He's gotta play better
When he’s off…the offense is terrible…
by VictorPage'sLeftEye on Feb 21, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
why you calling Pipe chubby?
He is extremely strong and powerful
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by seton hall and steelers on Feb 21, 2012 10:45 PM EST reply actions
Can't stop laughing at this
Great typo/possible troll failure(?) and excellent response. I suddenly have a burgeoning affection for this Seton Hall troll that the Collin B’s and StealthTurkey’s of the world will never earn. Pipe is indeed extremely chubby, strong, and powerful.
by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Feb 21, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
ESPN Bottom Line cutting to the chase
Gave up on trying to figure out whose stats to include, instead going with:
Worst Loss of Season. No players in double figures.
No ethnic slurs thus far, if you’re keeping score at home.
by FLHoya on Feb 21, 2012 10:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
WHAT THE SHIT
I HAD TO MISS THE GAME TONIGHT AND WASN’T EVEN CONCERNED BUT OH WAIT OOPS LOOKS LIKE THAT WAS WRONG I MEAN MY FRIGGIN GOD JAYZUS SHITTING CHRIST sorry to those i invariably offended but WHAT THE FLIPPING FUCK Y’ALL
Love this
Same reaction when i pulled up the score in the middle of a meeting. JAYZUS SHITTING CHRIST indeed.
by bunk moreland on Feb 21, 2012 11:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Was it an illusion or did Theodore pull up from 36 feet and drain it on us?..
Did the Hall really shoot 62% from 3 and 61% overall?
Did Theodore who shoots 3"s at about 29% go 5-5?
This is a dream right?
On to the next.. Shrugs
That was not good.
I hope to god we get a check in the mail from south orange, maybe a nice gift basket, for the NCAA berth we just gifted them.
Ghost of late season collapses i banish thee!!!!! Cause if this team collapses this year i am pretty sure i will get a PTSD diagnosis
by bunk moreland on Feb 21, 2012 11:24 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I don't know how we can draw a match-up with the Orange in the BET
but I need us to beat them, just so that I don’t have to listen to my SHU-alum younger brother gloat for the next year.
I was at the Pru as well (not a fan of calling it the rock)
and the authors statement that the Hoyas basically pooped themselves is fitting. I think that is why the game paused for so long with a minute left; it wouldn’t surprise me if a Hoya literally soiled himself and they needed to clean the floor. Tough game to watch.
We'll be fine
Granted, I didn’t watch any of the game tonight. But we’re still in good shape. Better something like this happen now vs. in the first round of the NCAA Tournament.
This team is different. Still flawed when things aren’t going our way, but different. Still think this team has what it takes to make a run at it in March.
It starts again with ‘Nova on Saturday. Can’t overlook them, they’ve gotten off to some big leads against good teams this year. That said, would like to get the Gray Out crowd going and try to put them away early.
Go Hoyas.
You have a less..
than 5% chance of losing the Nova game.
"Never hold discussions with the monkey when the organ grinder is in the room." - Churchill
by Esteban d' Amur on Feb 22, 2012 7:43 AM EST up reply actions
but odds of successfully navigating the BE schedule
are 4221 to 1
by bunk moreland on Feb 22, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
Is this where someone's supposed to add
#jokerbait
by HoyaSmacksYa on Feb 22, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Nope
That’s 3,720 to 1.
Why so Syracuse?
by HoyaJoker07 on Feb 22, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
I'm sorry
I didn’t ask to be this way.
#sometimesquitethetoolbag
Why so Syracuse?
by HoyaJoker07 on Feb 22, 2012 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
damn should have used the google machine
or good ole “so you’re saying there is a chance”
by bunk moreland on Feb 22, 2012 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
The actual game was a million times worse than the box score
Right before halftime it was clear that we really had no chance of winning.
Section 101.
by RileysDressLikeAHoyaJersey on Feb 22, 2012 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
Best game recap of the year. It all starts with Sims.
by The Lorry Michel Backrub on Feb 22, 2012 7:00 AM EST via mobile reply actions
team settled for 3s. defense didn't adjust.
really disappointing effort. better not happen again.
on offense, we just stopped going inside for no reason. INSIDE WAS WORKING. We got Pope into foul trouble. SHU is a good defense team, but we made it easy on them by only entering the post with a pass, trying long developing moves in the post, and taking a whole shit ton of 3s. the extra pass was available because they were looking for steals. we didn’t use that enough.
on defense, at some level you just can’t get mad at giving up some of those crazy shots (like Pope’s blatantly obvious travel that caused the uncontrollable giggling by the announcers) and they just would not miss 3s (though again, we sag too much. I know the team is long, but we aren’t that long). The disappointment was the bad help rotations—they made a number of smart, extra passes that should have been protected by a faster rotation. We also had a number of times where 3 guys converged on the ball handler, which made no sense. Also, have to give props to Theodore for using the mid-range game perfectly on his drives. LEARN FROM THAT MARKEL!!!!
by thejerseytornado on Feb 22, 2012 10:39 AM EST reply actions
correction
we took a shit ton of 3’s in the 1st half after the ball was thrown down low to Hank (who has no back to the basket moves) and thrown back out. Midway through the second half, we would waste so much clock on every possession running the sets when we were down huge and needed to go bombing. I can remember only one or two 3’s taken with under 10 mins left (1 by Otto), but could be wrong.
I will look on your treasures, gypsy. Is this understood?
by Lord Humongous on Feb 22, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions

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