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Sleeping with the Enemy: The Red Storm of St. John's

Now that some time has passed to let the wounds heal after the overtime thriller at Syracuse, we're ready to move forward to Georgetown's next opponent, the St. John's Red Storm. Special thanks to our jovial Johnnies friend Rumble in the Garden, who is back for another round of Casual Q&A and share everything he knows about all things Stormy. Since the Hoyas throttled St. John's at the Garden in January, this round's on us.

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What's changed since we've last seen one another?

Maurice Harkless a/k/a Moe a/k/a So Harkless has had a trio of big scoring games. D`Angelo Harrison is stroking it from outside. Phil Greene is looking more confident as a scoring point/ combo guard type. Outside of that, not much has changed... except the loss of another player, because that's how it rolls this season. The veteran guard, Malik Stith, decided to leave the team for reasons that seem unclear. He wasn't, you know, that effective - see his multi-zero stat lines - but a 6 man squad has to hold back for fear of wheezing and coughing their way up the court in the second half. Also: the Johnnies tasted hope against Duke and West Virginia, but were fed a heaping of SIT DOWN, YOUNG'IN from Syracuse and Cincinnati.

The season seems long and there's not enough gin. Or things to mix gin with.

More fun with Johnnies after The Jump:

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What are the chances that Moe Harkless is back in school next year?

Moe Harkless has a lot of talent. Dick Vitale yells his name. CBS Sports has him as one of the top freshmen.

And still? I give his chances at about 80-90%. Anthony Randolph got drafted off of a lackluster performance his freshman year, so I maybe there's a team that could guarantee him a late-20s spot. But Harkless' overall performance needs work. His 3-point shooting needs to improve, his ability to score in bunches needs to improve, and he needs more strength. And unlike Randolph, Harkless is 6'8" - small forward size, not center-sized. In a draft with so many players on elite teams who stayed, I can see him doing better next year (FWIW, NBA Draft.net has him going 9th in 2013).

How is Steve Lavin doing? I assume he is done for the year?

Lavin is doing well - making it to some practices and doing some recruiting, and watching the games from a vantage point high above Madison Square. But it doesn't look like we'll be able to fire up the Lavin Lines page this season with Steve Lavin's erudite analogies and that makes us sad.

This year seems to be a lost cause in terms of getting an NCAA Tournament berth. What are you hoping to see from the squad for the rest of the year?

Development. The whole team needs to improve a lot. I don't think we'll see a much better defense - the framework for the D is based on pressure, and it's hard to apply pressure without being able to rebound or defend with size, or without bodies to rotate in to play fearless defense. So it's the little things - I want to see Amir Garrett and Sir`Dominic Pointer develop offense of some kind. I want to see consistency from Phil Greene. And Harkless. And shot selection from D`Angelo Harrison. More energy from God`sgift Achiuwa.

How is next year looking? Assume Harkless comes back for now.

We learned that top target at forward, Ricardo Gathers, has committed to Baylor. There's word that targets Chris Obekpa and Jakarr Sampson are leaning towards Providence - suddenly a hot name in recruiting. Providence? How can that happen?. (Casual Note: I have a crazy idea, and it rhymes with "honey").

So I have no idea. The team BADLY needs someone taller than a proverbial three apples high to grab rebounds, but that players has to be willing and able to run, too. The team needs another shooter (they have their eye on a JuCo from Cali named Brandon Parga, but no offer - so hard to know how serious of an eye they have).

They probably won't be as bad - it can't be that hard to find a forward for depth, maybe another guard for depth (one who can rebound, do effort things), and the team has Jamal Branch eligible in December to take on the point guard role. I think the team can challenge for an NCAA berth, assuming normal frosh-to-soph leaps for 3 of Harkless/ Garrett/ Pointer/ Greene, with D`Angelo Harrison improving slightly.

Who do you expect to be the top 4 teams in the conference when all is said and done?

Syracuse, Marquette, Georgetown, and a player to be named later. I'd feel dirty saying Notre Dame - they're not good. So Louisville, I suppose?

Of the teams competing for a top 4 spot, who are you hoping collapses down the stretch?

I love that Mike Brey deserves a coach of the year award, but that's some real smoke and mirror [stuff] there. I'd prefer to see Syracuse collapse in the NCAAs. Much more satisfying.

If the Johnnies can't put together a miraculous run through the Big East Tournament, who are you rooting for?

Hm. Probably South Florida. I'm on a meek-shall-inherit vibe right now. The Hoyas are a close second, with Marquette third. All the other teams can suck a storm.

Who do you think will win it all in New Orleans this year? Predict the Final Four?

Baby! Baby! Slow down! Take it slow!

Too early to predict!

Oh hell. Final Four: Ohio State/ Michigan State/ Kentucky/ Virginia. Kentucky wins it.

What has St. John's done better this year than expected? What has been worse?

Better: not foul opponents. Hit two-pointers, especially in the mid range. That might be it.

Worse than expected: Keep players on the team. Keep recruits in the fold. Rebound. Shoot from outside the arc. Their ability to force turnovers. A lot of it isn't worse than I expected given this roster, but this roster is worse than expected. I don't know if the decommits would have meant more wins at all, but St. John's struggles to control the game.

How do you see this game playing out? What is the final score?

I see a beating. I see the ref coming to center court to mercy rule it. Kidding. The Johnnies will have competitive moments, get blocked a lot, show some fight late, and lose by about 20.

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"Final Four: Ohio State/ Michigan State/ Kentucky/ Virginia"

If Virginia makes the Final Four I will kill myself.

Casually.

by CasualHoya on Feb 10, 2012 5:44 PM EST reply actions  

Duke?!

High fives only on three pointers.

by TheYellofAllYells on Feb 10, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe

Though I feel like they are not much worse than us (in this respect only) given the large amount of HDC’s at our school. However, it appears to be the school uniform at UVA.

by WarmupEwing on Feb 10, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

my line of thinking

Izzo is still Izzo, despite a couple of off years. Ohio State, they’re pretty good, few flaws. Kentucky is a monster right now. Some team has to surprise, I don’t think it’s the 2.5 man Kansas squad, so I went with Virginia’s hellacious defense and boring pace.

Duke, is just flat-out terrible on defense. You want them in your bracket. Yes, they can score like no one else, but did you see how the Johnnies tore them up? I like the Johnnies’ potential, but right now they have two scorers and both are stoppable. Duke is like to town bicycle of defenses (or something. “Everyone gets a ride” doesn’t quite fit), the Plumlees are unbelievably soft in the post, the perimeter players have no idea how to contain, Ryan Kelly is a speedbump, the background of a poster.

/rant.

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by picodulce on Feb 10, 2012 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we all

Want to see Duke ripped apart by a Big East team in the tournament each year. And them see someone take a crowbar to the Plumlees’ faces (only to improve their appearance, of course). But they often lose too early for that to happen.

What are these assertions!?

by DHB Enterprises on Feb 10, 2012 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

It really is a shame, because there are two categories into which our opponents can be sorted...

1.) Those we want to beat
2.) Those we want to beat about the head with a rusty metal pipe

Duke falls into that exclusive latter group, along with Syracuse. And any school we’ve faced in the tournament over the last three years.

by Hoya Saxual on Feb 10, 2012 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Is it

wrong I feel no lingering animosity toward VCU? Now Davidson on the other hand…

Bring back Don Reid

by Insidious Rex on Feb 12, 2012 8:05 AM EST up reply actions  

My final 4

Kentucky, Kansas, Michigan St, Georgetown.

by hoyasincebirth on Feb 11, 2012 10:59 PM EST up reply actions  

He'd enjoy Syracuse collapsing in March?

Let’s get a beer with this guy during the BET or something.

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Feb 10, 2012 6:40 PM EST reply actions  

and fondness for us

per the comment about a BET run. Aren’t we supposed to be old rivals or something, to be rekindled when Cuse leaves? Or perhaps the bball-only Catholics are just sticking together during these perilous times.

Hammer of the Cuse

by SirHoya on Feb 10, 2012 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

The wildly varying reactions to SWTE

Indicate there is some genuine camaraderie forming between certain schools. Everlasting hatred towards others.

by WarmupEwing on Feb 10, 2012 8:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yes,

Catholic Solidarity

"Never hold discussions with the monkey when the organ grinder is in the room." - Churchill

by Esteban d' Amur on Feb 11, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Left DC today

Can’t remember why…might be the coors at the hotel bar.

Why so Syracuse?

by HoyaJoker07 on Feb 10, 2012 10:46 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

sniff

this is very sad. One will be poured out for you on Sunday, kind Joker.

Hammer of the Cuse

by SirHoya on Feb 10, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Indeed

Safe travels young squire

Looking for Thunder-based transportation?

by jwallobjects on Feb 11, 2012 10:38 AM EST via Android app up reply actions  

oh no

Permanent move? Sorry I didn’t get to wish you well in person! You must come back for the annual extravaganza.

"These dudes are good" - Hoya2Pacer on this years team
ALL ABOARD!!

by iheartgregmonroe on Feb 13, 2012 9:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

ugh

85 final showing on MASN. We’ve started brightly! What could possibly go wrong…

Hammer of the Cuse

by SirHoya on Feb 10, 2012 11:16 PM EST reply actions  

Explanation
We play with numbers to make Duke look as good as possible

Good talk.

by Hire Esherick on Feb 11, 2012 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Basically say as much

“these are pretty technical and many people won’t be interested, so we won’t go into detail”
I’m fine if they want to claim it’s proprietary, but some of us can do math. NUMBERS… LOGIC… HOLD ME!

by fromCourtlandtoAustin on Feb 11, 2012 2:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

This and th QBR

NOBODY else is using these numbers…why is a news organization doing this?

by VictorPage'sLeftEye on Feb 11, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

They're not a news organization

They’re an entertainment/celebritology organization. Occasionally competitive feats of athletic endeavor are inadvertently broadcast, but they try to keep those to a minimum as it’s distracting from the celebrity-watching.

by HoyaSmacksYa on Feb 11, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

A response from one commentator to the other during the Duke-UMD game

may have provided the definitive clarification on ESPN’s theory of data maniplulation:

Announcer 1: But numbers don’t lie.
Announcer 2: They do if you torture them long enough.

by Hoya Saxual on Feb 11, 2012 6:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

wvu loses to louisville

wouldnt mind wvu losing the rest of the way

off to the big 12 with tail between legs

Good talk.

by Hire Esherick on Feb 11, 2012 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

thundersnow sighting/"hearing"

in the DC area. 24hrs too early for my liking, but hopefully a sign of good things tomorrow (also to make up for general sporting suckitude today)

Hammer of the Cuse

by SirHoya on Feb 11, 2012 3:16 PM EST reply actions  

Not basketball related, but I assume the patriotic gentlemen of this blog support our nation's teams:

Remember Alex Morgan, the headband-wearing member of the US Women’s World Cup squad, who got more press for a certain yellow “dress” than for her stellar play? She’s posing for Sports Illustrated’s swimsuit issue, wearing only bodypaint.

by Hoya Saxual on Feb 11, 2012 3:48 PM EST reply actions  

a vital

public service announcement. A grateful nation thanks you.

Hammer of the Cuse

by SirHoya on Feb 11, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I can haz sexy time with her?

I will look on your treasures, gypsy. Is this understood?

by Lord Humongous on Feb 14, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

New favorite stat

Number of havard grads to play in the NBA- 3
Number of harvard grads elected president- 8

Linsanity!

by bunk moreland on Feb 11, 2012 6:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

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