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New Beginnings: Cincinnati Bearcats (12-4, 2-1) at #11 Georgetown Hoyas (13-2, 3-1)

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Cincinnati Bearcats at Georgetown Hoyas, Jan 9, 2012 9:00 PM EST


Cincinnati Bearcats
Georgetown Hoyas
Visitor vs. Georgetown
NR (12-4, 2-1); RPI: 134 #11 (12-2, 3-1); RPI: 9
Date: January 9, 2012
 Location: Washington, DC
Time: 9:00 p.m. ET
 Arena: Verizon Center
TV: ESPNU Spread: Georgetown -6.5
Radio: ESPN980 Over/Under: 125
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Casual Pregame: Iron Horse - 507 7th St. NW


(Perspectives After The Jump)

Star-divide

View from the Student Section - A Perspective from Campus:

Well, we're back in DC as the Hoyas take on Cincy tonight. I'm not going to lie to you, I have an irrational fear of Cincinnati based on our results against them ever since I've stepped foot on campus. Our game against them last year spelled the end of the season for Georgetown, for all intensive purposes, so I hope to god we can avenge this tragedy. I fully plan on getting Yancy Gates to knock me out, and get him suspended for the rest of the season(how I will do that is yet to be determined). I do feel like I am hitting mid-season form with my fan skills, so hopefully the Hoyas will show that they are hitting their stride as well. Sean Kilpatrick makes me nervous as does Justin Jackson, who can rebound the ball. Similar to Georgetown, Cincinnati has some length, but they also have essentially no offensive system, no coach, and no players (just thugs). Weird start time aside, let's ZIP EM UP!!!!! Hoya Saxa.

View from the Court Side Seats - A Perspective from OldHoya:

OldHoya is still seething after that game against WVU and wishes he were courtside in Morgantown so he could have sent a message to those trigger happy refs himself. Tonight, OldHoya looks forward to being back at Verizon, and hopes the Hoyas can win this one to avenge last season's loss in which Chris Wright broke his hand.

OldHoya still doesn't consider the Bearcats a true Big East rival, and doesnt' quite understand why they serve chili with spaghetti in Cincinnati.

View from the Enemy- A Perspective from our Sleeping With The Enemy Interview:

DD: I have to take Georgetown in this one. The Bearcats haven't done well in Washington in the past and I think Georgetown presents some match up problems for the Bearcats small ball approach.

BB: I have a bad feeling it's going to be more like the game 2 years ago in DC than the one last year. Not quite by the margin, but by the losing. I don't know how this Cincinnati team plays on the road, and they haven't played that well lately. I'll go Georgetown 69-60.

JahidiLikesPie Nervous Level:

 OH CRAP

What an awful weekend. I sat through that eye-gouging loss without so much as even sniffing an adult beverage. Normally, the first sign of a GU game playing out like that is cause to begin to pour as much Coors Light down my throat as science will allow. Unfortunately, I did very poor resolution negotiations and made a commitment to pick January as my 'dry-out month'. Why did I not bargain for something that would have been easier like bacon or strip clubs or black licorice? Instead, I am now forced to spend the next 3 weeks watching this team with no anesthesia. I then proceeded to follow the scores of every conference game for the rest of the weekend and realize that I may not make it past next Sunday when I will be watching us play the Johnnies from great seats.

Cincinnati. Can we pull out that vengeance tour bus from the 2010 BET and get that thing going? I really want to pay Cashmere back for RUINING MY SPRING. Now that we have that out of the way, let me tell you how nervous I am about this game? This team is no slouch. Yancy gates has the ability to 'Kevin Jones' us on the inside, Jacknife Powerbomb Henry Sims and then lay The People's Elbow down on everyone that comes to rescue Hank. While, Yancy can't shoot from the outside, it seems that those around him can. Can you say Holy Shit? I can, but the blog lords will translate it 'Oh Crap!'

View from the Sportsbook (via DonBest) - A Perspective from Vegas:

The Line: Georgetown -6.5. Over/under 125.

The good news for Georgetown is that Cincy plays a very similar style to West Virginia. The bad news for Georgetown is that just like the games against WVU, the games against Cincy are equally difficult to watch and often shitshow foulfests. I expect this one to be low scoring, and though I don't like giving up this many points in a Big East game, I'll roll with the Hoyas since the game is at home and Georgetown can't play much worse than it did on Saturday. I think. This is a reluctant Hoyas selection. Very reluctant.

The pick is Georgetown -6.5. Final score Hoyas 74 - Beacats 66.

Casual Hoya is 8-7 ATS this season.
Last season: 18-14.
Overall 48-29.

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in Vegas for my 21st which was yesterday

Up $80 and 2/2 at the books. Georgetown is only -3.5 here at the Monte Carlo. Jumpin all over that line.

by Hoya Vey on Jan 9, 2012 4:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Vegas amateur

That’s 1st half.

by Hoya Vey on Jan 9, 2012 4:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

feliz cumpleaños

"These dudes are good" - Hoya2Pacer on this years team

by iheartgregmonroe on Jan 9, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

enjoy your first (legal) taste of alcohol

what gent’s club do you have lined up?

I will look on your treasures, gypsy. Is this understood?

by Lord Humongous on Jan 9, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

this start time blows

not sure if i can get up at 2am to watch.

Take No Prisoners, especially if they wear Orange.

by hoyabballownsall on Jan 9, 2012 4:36 PM EST reply actions  

seth davis unusually kind
I think Henry Sims is the best passing big man John Thompson III has ever had, even better than Greg Monroe. Sims is a point center and that offense is tailor made for his skills. If Draymond Green played for Georgetown, he might lead the country in assists.

Take No Prisoners, especially if they wear Orange.

by hoyabballownsall on Jan 9, 2012 4:42 PM EST reply actions  

He may be unusually kind

but I don’t think he is right. Sims is a very good passer but Monroe was excellent. Guess it depends on how you classify Jeff Green as well.

by ReggieandtheMiracles on Jan 9, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree, Monroe is great and had a double digit assist game (at Providence?)

but that pass by Henry at WV around his man to the cutter was NAICE.

by Brasky on Jan 9, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

seems almost a little back handed

sims is so great a passer , but if D Green was in the sytem he’d be even better

by hoyafan03 on Jan 9, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

You just get me, man.

by JGD on Jan 9, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Never inclined to disagree with Esteban

And won’t here. However, I will say that Monroe arrived as a much better passer and his instincts fit JTIII’s offense ideally from the moment he stepped onto the court. Much like Otto now, Monroe had the unusual ability to see plays before they developed and predict where the opening would be.
Sims arrived as a more traditional post and has had to learn to be instinctive from the high-post. Arguably, Sims has a better complement of cutters around him than did Monroe (players 2-9), which improves Sims’ assist numbers.

by hoyaparanormal on Jan 9, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree that Sims has better cutters

and Monroe was (perhaps?) surrounded by better shooters. I feel very confident when Henry gets the ball at the top of the key that he is going to make something good happen . . . even better than when he gets it on the block.

by ReggieandtheMiracles on Jan 9, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Snowing in DC

Don’t we always win in the snow? #snowpocalypse

"These dudes are good" - Hoya2Pacer on this years team

by iheartgregmonroe on Jan 9, 2012 4:58 PM EST reply actions  

keep an ear to the air

and listen for the thunder

Hammer of the Cuse

by SirHoya on Jan 9, 2012 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

We've Shot

11/49 (22%) from beyond the arc over the last 3 games. Those have got to start dropping, we’re not that bad of a 3-point shooting team.

Right? RIGHT?!

by ChickenFingerThursday on Jan 9, 2012 5:28 PM EST reply actions  

Any students lined up for the game yet?

"These dudes are good" - Hoya2Pacer on this years team

by iheartgregmonroe on Jan 9, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

The Wright Stuff...

Wright has been tweeting all day about this game…the Hoyas better bring it and avenge last year. I am not driving down to Verizon and missing the melt down on the Bachelor to watch sloppy play—turnovers, missed free throws…our boys better do this for Chris! GO HOYAS!

by HOYALVR on Jan 9, 2012 5:49 PM EST reply actions  

pet peeve of mine

"I don't know. I'm making this up as I go."

by aja32 on Jan 9, 2012 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

mine too

I was inclined to let it slide in hopes that it was written after several pregame cocktails

by The Lorry Michel Backrub on Jan 9, 2012 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

if that's the case, then all is forgiven

"I don't know. I'm making this up as I go."

by aja32 on Jan 9, 2012 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

He's a senior back on campus early.

I’d be surprised if there was a day where he hadn’t had a few drinks, regardless of whether or not there was a game about to happen.

by Hoya Saxual on Jan 9, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd let it slide if it were a mere type

Like “all intent sand purposes” or something. Alcohol doesn’t explain that mistake. But alcohol is probably the best way to make up for it.

What are these assertions!?

by DHB Enterprises on Jan 9, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

You mean "typo"?

(Sorry, just teasing, couldn’t resist.)

by Hoya Saxual on Jan 9, 2012 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh wow, how embarrassing.

I’d like to think that was subliminally intentional.

What are these assertions!?

by DHB Enterprises on Jan 9, 2012 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Likewise

Whenever I hear someone say it, I can’t help but ask them to explain what they just said

by Hoya Annoya on Jan 9, 2012 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Glad you guys pointed this out

If I was the only one, I would’ve felt like a HDC

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Jan 9, 2012 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably because I wasn't able to watch the WVU debacle:

Fearless Mindless Predictions for Cincinatti Game:

- Otto hits at least one three pointer and grabs 10+ rebounds
- Markel breaks out of his funk, makes 50% of his threes, and plays tough defense
- Nate and Mikael combine for 6+ offensive boards and get Gates in early foul trouble
- Jason reverts (in a positive fashion) to his fearless driving and foul-drawing ways
- Hollis hits two key jumpers in second half
- Cinci goes cold from three in second half
- Hoyas obtain first double-digit victory in Big East play 70 – 58

by hoyaparanormal on Jan 9, 2012 5:56 PM EST reply actions  

Terrible game to bet on

but I think Georgetown wins.

High fives only on three pointers.

by TheYellofAllYells on Jan 9, 2012 6:23 PM EST reply actions  

SHOCKER I know.

High fives only on three pointers.

by TheYellofAllYells on Jan 9, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Can this game start already?

I can’t hold it much longer

Hoyas, Cause they do it right.

by hoya saxual healing on Jan 9, 2012 6:45 PM EST reply actions  

any relation

to the Goddess of Gif?

Hammer of the Cuse

by SirHoya on Jan 9, 2012 7:15 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

just saw that

Trying to drop the Hoya to lessen the confusion…can’t figure out how

Hoyas, Cause they do it right.

by hoya saxual healing on Jan 9, 2012 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Casual Drinking Tip

I’ve usually written off the He’Brew line as chintzy and gimmicky, but god damnit this is a tasty beer. It’s practically a port.

by Hoya Annoya on Jan 9, 2012 6:59 PM EST reply actions  

bought this for my friend for the holidays

big hit

"I don't know. I'm making this up as I go."

by aja32 on Jan 9, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, not my photograph.

Whoever took this needs to man up and get a real tulip glass.

by Hoya Annoya on Jan 9, 2012 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

fwiw, it's a he-brew branded glass

i will be drinking my recently illegally imported into philadelphia johnny drum private stock straight bourbon to get through the game.

by thejerseytornado on Jan 9, 2012 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Whoa

is this game really not until 9? I was here waiting for tip.

Damn…

"I don't know. I'm making this up as I go."

by aja32 on Jan 9, 2012 7:03 PM EST reply actions  

First time, long time...

This 9 p.m. start is rough. Working late solely because it makes no sense to head home when Verizon is walking distance.

Syracuse boards keep mentioning how their OOC will improve in future years because of playing us. I hope this is just their own fantasy.

by ManvilleHoya on Jan 9, 2012 7:03 PM EST reply actions  

First day of class And I am teaching right through the game (I'm on the West Coast)

Do I end class early so I can at least watch the second half?

Sic transit gloria Cuse

by who will sex dikembe tonight on Jan 9, 2012 7:06 PM EST reply actions  

Um yes?

You are a teacher and thus lord of the class. If you say the sun rises and sets with the hoyas then by god it does.

by genetichoya on Jan 9, 2012 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

NYCers

Come to Sidebar in Union Square for the game.

by hoya07 on Jan 9, 2012 7:08 PM EST reply actions  

UConn-WVU rooting interest?

I generally hate both teams and coaches.

UConn has more BE losses so far, but seems more likely to be at the top of the standings in late February. Plus WVU owns the tiebreaker over us.

I like Connecticut better as a state (Mom’s basement is in the suburbs of New Haven, after all) but that has never made me like the Huskies before.

But only one of these teams is (at least temporarily) loyal to the Big East. Go Huskies.

What are these assertions!?

by DHB Enterprises on Jan 9, 2012 7:17 PM EST reply actions  

Lucky

I am stuck in class until 9CST, so I get to spend half the game watching pixels on ESPN3 and pretending to pay attention to the prof

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Jan 9, 2012 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Uconn gettin Jonesd

…Me, pregaming with a Monster and malibu

by HuskerHoya on Jan 9, 2012 7:46 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

Watching sixers pacers

according to the announcers, roy hibbert played with jeff green and for john thompson junior… interesting

by chrisharvey'sfacialhair on Jan 9, 2012 7:55 PM EST reply actions  

watching wvu-uconn – i have no idea how we kept it close (within 4 ) given the games sims and clark had

Good talk.

by Hire Esherick on Jan 9, 2012 8:26 PM EST reply actions  

kilicli's slow jump hook is impossible to defend

key to beating wvu is doing what uconn is doing now. press, press, press.

the guards are turnover prone

Good talk.

by Hire Esherick on Jan 9, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Bilas

A couple of minutes ago, he commented that Kilici is the WVU player who most resembles the Mountaineer mascot in the history of the program. I’m going to assume he saw the similar comment posted in the CasualAwards. Can’t wait for him to do the SWTE for our matchup with Duke in New Orleans.

#delusional

What are these assertions!?

by DHB Enterprises on Jan 9, 2012 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

And here we...

go!

"I don't know. I'm making this up as I go."

by aja32 on Jan 9, 2012 8:55 PM EST reply actions  

yes

i hate the dolans

Good talk.

by Hire Esherick on Jan 9, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Shumpert sucks

Remember how every Knicks fan thought Landry Fields was the next Kobe? Well, Landry Fields sucks.

Casually.

by CasualHoya on Jan 9, 2012 9:05 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

HENRY

At least he tried to dunk it

by JGD on Jan 9, 2012 9:06 PM EST reply actions  

"Mick" Cronin

Any other Irish-Americans offended by this guy’s name?

What are these assertions!?

by DHB Enterprises on Jan 9, 2012 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

missed the first 3 min

To figure out how the app works grr

by kayyybelita on Jan 9, 2012 9:09 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

My man Lubick

Is doing his damn thing thus far

by JGD on Jan 9, 2012 9:09 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed.

I hope Porter goes in for Sims after the timeout. Lubick is playing the best I’ve seen

Earmuffs.

by Circus Saximus on Jan 9, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Henry Sims

Can. Not. Score.

What are these assertions!?

by DHB Enterprises on Jan 9, 2012 9:10 PM EST reply actions  

it is so painful to have this comment thread

and a delayed game feed.

see y’all at halftime

"I don't know. I'm making this up as I go."

by aja32 on Jan 9, 2012 9:11 PM EST reply actions  

I thought he played really well

When he was actually on the floor on Sat

by JGD on Jan 9, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

When on the floor

You know what I am trying to say, son

by JGD on Jan 9, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd have to go back and re-watch

Since I mental bleached that one immediately after. Not that concerned about it, anyway, so I’ll bow to your assessment – more important that he’s doing well so far tonight.

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Jan 9, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

agree

he playing in front of his man

Good talk.

by Hire Esherick on Jan 9, 2012 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

If it thundersnows a few times

There will be some happy Hoyas in the Phone Booth

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Jan 9, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

depth

allowing III to play those who are playing well. It’s enjoyable.

by The Lorry Michel Backrub on Jan 9, 2012 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

The intensity/hustle

In first five minutes is outstanding.

by hoyaparanormal on Jan 9, 2012 9:15 PM EST reply actions  

Speaking of Presidents

Happy 99th birthday, Richard Milhous Nixon

What are these assertions!?

by DHB Enterprises on Jan 9, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Apparently

Game plan is FAST

by WarmupEwing on Jan 9, 2012 9:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

yeah

I’m with you there.

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by Chris Haines on Jan 9, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Look Back

that cop in the instant replay really trying her best not to get involved

by chrisharvey'sfacialhair on Jan 9, 2012 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

Mick Cronin

Talking about anger management counseling th day after he breaks his Rolex

by HoyaBuckets on Jan 9, 2012 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

Otto

What’s up my man

by JGD on Jan 9, 2012 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

dammit porter

what the hell happened

Good talk.

by Hire Esherick on Jan 9, 2012 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

Front row student section

Barks during free throws. Little Asian girl behind the basket is the one that you thought was a puppy.

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Jan 9, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Lubick back

Right the ship.

What are these assertions!?

by DHB Enterprises on Jan 9, 2012 9:24 PM EST reply actions  

Lubicks back.

I’m estimating 30-35 minutes

Earmuffs.

by Circus Saximus on Jan 9, 2012 9:24 PM EST reply actions  

Greg

points for the hustle

New sig tba

by PerryMcDonald'sRightCross on Jan 9, 2012 9:26 PM EST reply actions  

espn is being a bitch

anything i should know other than lubick being thundersnowy and otto being decidedly NOT otto-like

by BeerBottlesToTheFaceOfSyracuseFans on Jan 9, 2012 9:27 PM EST reply actions  

old Cincy fan behind

And he’s pretty quiett

by kayyybelita on Jan 9, 2012 9:27 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

14-2 run

wha??? is everyone afraid of breaking their hands?

by Ipse Dixit on Jan 9, 2012 9:28 PM EST reply actions  

huuuuuge flush by hank!

Let's settle this with a poll.

by wadetandy on Jan 9, 2012 9:28 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Sims' dunk

First thing to come through clearly on ESPN3. Nice!

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Jan 9, 2012 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

JTIII can talk defense all he wants,

but this team will win most of it’s games if at the other end they get the ball on the rim and just go get it (ask his dad!!)

by hoyaparanormal on Jan 9, 2012 9:30 PM EST reply actions  

Entirely disagree

The only points they’re getting in the half-court are three-pointers. Defense always looks bad when you have SEVEN TURNOVERS in the first 12 minutes.

by hoyaparanormal on Jan 9, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Put Jabril on Dixon

Jesus Christ. It is so obvious.

by boumtje on Jan 9, 2012 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

Second time

Cincy has made absurd flailing/turnaround mid-range jumpers.

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Jan 9, 2012 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

Paging Hollis Thompson...

NBA Draft candidate? All Big East Player? Our best shooter?

by chrisharvey'sfacialhair on Jan 9, 2012 9:31 PM EST reply actions  

He just disappears

For extended periods of every single game

It’s unreal

by JGD on Jan 9, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed...

Oh you hit our only 3? lets give everyone else a chance to shoot.

by genetichoya on Jan 9, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Jason and Markel

Are too small to check Dixon. Take him away, and they have nothing.

by boumtje on Jan 9, 2012 9:33 PM EST reply actions  

Has to be Jabril

Not sure III trusts him with press

by JGD on Jan 9, 2012 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

as many turnovers as field goals...

I thought that was last years team

by henrysimsdunking on Jan 9, 2012 9:35 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

This ESPN3 feed is making me miss Benimon's shoes

At least then I’d be able to definitively pick out one player on the court

by Hoya Saxual on Jan 9, 2012 9:39 PM EST reply actions  

When Nate's out there

It’s equally easy, and less offensive than watching Benimon play basketball.

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Jan 9, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I get it.

It’s because he’s the only person rebounding on the team.

Earmuffs.

by Circus Saximus on Jan 9, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you think

Women would give up their right to vote for the ability to drink Dr Pepper 10?

by boumtje on Jan 9, 2012 9:40 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Better question

How many of the Hoya Cougars would gie up the franchise to have Hollis’s babies? Or win a title?

The Devil wants to know.

New sig tba

by PerryMcDonald'sRightCross on Jan 9, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Hollis

Hot just like an oven

Hoyas, Cause they do it right

by saxual healing on Jan 9, 2012 9:42 PM EST reply actions  

why is there nobody everytime Hopkins has the ball

Or at least this is the second time I noticed in a week

by kayyybelita on Jan 9, 2012 9:44 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

our big men

BLOW MORE WIDE OPEN SHOTS THAN ANY TEAM IN THE COUNTRY

Blip

by JahidiLikesPie on Jan 9, 2012 9:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

gates is sweating like faucet yuck

The phone booth has HD screens awkwarddddss

by kayyybelita on Jan 9, 2012 9:45 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

wow yancy gates is huge

I would not want to be sucker punched by him

by henrysimsdunking on Jan 9, 2012 9:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Good things happen

When Clark is in the paint

What are these assertions!?

by DHB Enterprises on Jan 9, 2012 9:46 PM EST reply actions  

GOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLL

New plan guys. Hollis takes every shot, from anywhere.

by genetichoya on Jan 9, 2012 9:48 PM EST reply actions  

don't say that

I like Hollis

"I don't know. I'm making this up as I go."

by aja32 on Jan 9, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

my bad

thought you meant Reggie Miller…I grew up rooting for Ewing’s Knicks

"I don't know. I'm making this up as I go."

by aja32 on Jan 9, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Allright.

I can handle that.

We an call off the pogram.

New sig tba

by PerryMcDonald'sRightCross on Jan 9, 2012 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's pump the brakes a bit.

Hollis is a great shooter, but Reggie was the MAN.

by ReggieandtheMiracles on Jan 9, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Every time we are in a close game

my immediate reaction is “Reggie do something dammit” before I remember who the current players are.

New sig tba

by PerryMcDonald'sRightCross on Jan 9, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Five shots for Hollis

Five makes. I should have asked for seven or eight.

What are these assertions!?

by DHB Enterprises on Jan 9, 2012 9:48 PM EST reply actions  

Hollis

Helps to relieve my mind

Hoyas, Cause they do it right

by saxual healing on Jan 9, 2012 9:48 PM EST reply actions  

Hollis Thompson?

He looks more like a young Ray Allen to me

Eat that box

by TexaHoya on Jan 9, 2012 9:49 PM EST reply actions  

Reggie

Reggie fuckin Williams!

New sig tba

by PerryMcDonald'sRightCross on Jan 9, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

for hollis

the bank is always open

by FixitJon on Jan 9, 2012 9:49 PM EST reply actions  

Hollis

can shoot as much as he damn wants

by Goldenstatehoya on Jan 9, 2012 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

Hey guys!

Only nine turnovers in the first half! Single digits!

What are these assertions!?

by DHB Enterprises on Jan 9, 2012 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

Is anybody else worried

that half time will just end up completely cooling Hollis off?

Eat that box

by TexaHoya on Jan 9, 2012 9:53 PM EST reply actions  

If it happens

Someone else will step up. #stilldelusional

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Jan 9, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Umm

No. Not until you mentioned it and poisoned the kharmic well.

New sig tba

by PerryMcDonald'sRightCross on Jan 9, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I jinxed it

I think I jinxed it. Did I jinx it? I think I did

Eat that box

by TexaHoya on Jan 9, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Shouldn't drawn attention to that

The men with torches might show up at your door

by Hoya Saxual on Jan 9, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm more concerned

That he won’t get another shot until the under four media timeout

What are these assertions!?

by DHB Enterprises on Jan 9, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow

I was only off by about 30 seconds with this gloomy prediction.

What are these assertions!?

by DHB Enterprises on Jan 10, 2012 8:36 AM EST up reply actions  

our freshmen are so ahead of schedule

that they are already having a sophmore slump

Obviously...

by soya on Jan 9, 2012 9:54 PM EST reply actions  

So Katy Perry, Linkin Park and Indian interpretive dance @ halftime

Pilgrim Pete coming out with a flamethrower at the under 16 would make more sense than this

by mchoya on Jan 9, 2012 9:55 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Beth Mowins and Tim Welsh

Aka…..the A-team. Surprised we could get them during spelunking season.

by boumtje on Jan 9, 2012 9:58 PM EST reply actions  

He's a great player

Right along with Michael Starks and Nate Lubbock, who played with us a few games ago.

by Hoya Saxual on Jan 9, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Not to mention

this tweet from John Rothstein

Interesting how Georgetown is using Brandon Bowman on Cashmere Wright early. Length could be a major factor here.

"I don't know. I'm making this up as I go."

by aja32 on Jan 9, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Would you rather

Name your kid cashmere? Or Pashmina?

by boumtje on Jan 9, 2012 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

Cashmere Wright

has a soft touch

Obviously...

by soya on Jan 9, 2012 10:08 PM EST reply actions  

Clark

pickin up the freshmen

New sig tba

by PerryMcDonald'sRightCross on Jan 9, 2012 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

Otto and Lubick

Oh hell yeah!

47-42 good guys

by JGD on Jan 9, 2012 10:17 PM EST reply actions  

Can we put together a run?

Haven’t seen one since I had that day old burrito.

Obviously...

by soya on Jan 9, 2012 10:19 PM EST reply actions  

I think

I’d be zoning the hell out of this team

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by Chris Haines on Jan 9, 2012 10:20 PM EST reply actions  

Agreed

Although they always hit heatcheck threes against us.

by JGD on Jan 9, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

awesome...

…Never do that again

by monroesrighthand on Jan 9, 2012 10:21 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

anyone else concerned

about the lack of hair in the middle of JT III’s mustache?

by The Lorry Michel Backrub on Jan 9, 2012 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

I didn't see that clearly until the replay

And I still don’t know how it happened/worked

by Hoya Saxual on Jan 9, 2012 10:24 PM EST reply actions  

yeah

Cincy had a really bad start, but they are not a bad team.

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by Chris Haines on Jan 9, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. Just frustrating.

We don’t enjoy an obvious talent gap against any Big East opponent so every game is a kick in the sack. A cakewalk – just one – would be nice for the confidence…

Looking for reasons to be deluded.

by TouomouIsMyHomie on Jan 9, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Henry's mid range game

May be the name of my first child

by JGD on Jan 9, 2012 10:27 PM EST reply actions  

Did not like that baseline jumper by Sims

Too early in the shot clock for that. Guessing JT3 wasn’t a huge fan either, since he got Lubick up right after it.

by NewsToTom on Jan 9, 2012 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah

That was definitely a “I’m feeling it and don’t remember what’s going on with the game” shot. We had numbers and ended up with a Sims 12 footer. No bueno.

by JGD on Jan 9, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

So JGD said Hollis should get 15-20 shots a game

I said five in the first half would be reasonable. But I did not mean five in the first half, zero in the second.

What are these assertions!?

by DHB Enterprises on Jan 9, 2012 10:31 PM EST reply actions  

I mean

That is just such a shitty possession.

I don’t even know what to say.

by JGD on Jan 9, 2012 10:33 PM EST reply actions  

YES!

As i mentioned earlier, perfume boy male model is exactly who I expect him to be.

Dumb as rocks.

by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Jan 9, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

But, I did see one of my alumni interviewees cheering in the crowd link.

New sig tba

by PerryMcDonald'sRightCross on Jan 9, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

that is the most annoying ad

makes no sense

"I don't know. I'm making this up as I go."

by aja32 on Jan 9, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

big john uses hankerchielf
hep uses fingers

Good talk.

by Hire Esherick on Jan 9, 2012 10:35 PM EST reply actions  

Who else likes

That Cashmere Wright has 0 points and 3 fouls. Suck it asshole. Also die.

by Great Vengeance and Furious Anger on Jan 9, 2012 10:36 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

Lubick

I am so happy right now

by JGD on Jan 9, 2012 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

59-53 @ 6:28

We’re shooting 63% and Lubick is having his best game of the year

by Hoya Saxual on Jan 9, 2012 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

8 and 7 for lubick….yes!!!

by Big Spoon on Jan 9, 2012 10:37 PM EST reply actions  

Lubick

was pissed b/c TexaHoya was dissin’ him….ha!!!!

by Big Spoon on Jan 9, 2012 10:37 PM EST reply actions  

Someone should elbow Gates

He would never retaliate. Cause of the Xavier game.

by boumtje on Jan 9, 2012 10:39 PM EST reply actions  

Even though the Hoyas are deeper

how come they have the most fouls, let’s not abuse the foul situation, please!

by Big Spoon on Jan 9, 2012 10:39 PM EST reply actions  

Don't make Lubick angry

You wouldn’t like him when he’s angry…

by Hoya Annoya on Jan 9, 2012 10:41 PM EST reply actions  

It's a missed opportunity

If nobody steps on him before he fouls out

by Hoya Saxual on Jan 9, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Whittington

hit him with a decent screen/forearm shiver at one point.

New sig tba

by PerryMcDonald'sRightCross on Jan 9, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

holy fuck

practice underneath basket in bounds

by The Lorry Michel Backrub on Jan 9, 2012 10:41 PM EST reply actions  

Youth?

On the other hand, I’ll take tough, heart-attack victories over any kind of losses any day of the week.

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Jan 9, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Welcome back, turnovers

I’d say I missed you, but that’d be a bigger lie than claiming LSU’s offense has been good tonight.

by NewsToTom on Jan 9, 2012 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

wow

this game could have been put away so many times

Obviously...

by soya on Jan 9, 2012 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

And who could have expected

The BCS Championship would be hideously boring? Oh wait.

by genetichoya on Jan 9, 2012 10:43 PM EST reply actions  

59-56 @ 3:16

Our turnovers and difficulty with the whole “inbounds-pass thing” are keeping them close

by Hoya Saxual on Jan 9, 2012 10:44 PM EST reply actions  

Holy Shit!!!

You waited until two minutes to go to remind me??!!!
for shame!!!!

by hoyaparanormal on Jan 9, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Alright fellas

Time to regroup. Last 3 minutes are winning time, forget the rest of the shit. 3 minutes to 4-1, that’s all that matters

by JGD on Jan 9, 2012 10:45 PM EST reply actions  

value the ball...

pocesssions = points. turnovers = drano consumption

by HuskerHoya on Jan 9, 2012 10:47 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

Trawick

Vee Sanford honorary inexplicable lack of playing time award tonight

by HoyaBuckets on Jan 9, 2012 10:51 PM EST reply actions  

oh god

why is porter guarding a guard 25 feet from the basket

by The Lorry Michel Backrub on Jan 9, 2012 10:52 PM EST reply actions  

I cannot believe we're in this position

Shot so damn well the entire half, but got utterly shredded on defense. W T F

by genetichoya on Jan 9, 2012 10:54 PM EST reply actions  

I have 0 faith in us winning this game tonight

Mick Cronin is outcoaching JT3

#thingsididntexpecttosaytonight

by JGD on Jan 9, 2012 10:55 PM EST reply actions  

It can't be Otto taking that shot

I am sorry, it just can’t. Not with Clark and Thompson on this team

by JGD on Jan 9, 2012 10:56 PM EST reply actions  

Yes

He got his ass handed to him tonight.

by JGD on Jan 9, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

so he

can’t beat Huggins, has a hell of a time against Brey, has trouble with Cronin. Hmmmm

by El Scorcho! on Jan 9, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Why was he even in the game?

Is Otto really a better offensive option than Nate?

by Hoya Annoya on Jan 9, 2012 11:00 PM EST reply actions  

Should not have been in this position

When you can’t play defense and keep turning the ball over, the fickle finger of fate can screw you in a close game.

by NewsToTom on Jan 9, 2012 11:01 PM EST reply actions  

yup

turnovers and free throw shooting are story of the game, again

Good talk.

by Hire Esherick on Jan 9, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

why are we so sloppy all of a sudden?

the ranking going to their head?

Obviously...

by soya on Jan 9, 2012 11:02 PM EST reply actions  

Hoyas get ranked in top 10

followed by season crushing collapse…. how is this even a surprise anymore… sigh

by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Jan 9, 2012 11:03 PM EST reply actions  

Seriously

Every year. We actually shot well this game. But 17 TO’s means we gave them 17 of our shots. Game over.

by genetichoya on Jan 9, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

blargles

Home loss hurts

Cuse delenda est

by onceahoya on Jan 9, 2012 11:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Hollis Thompson was 5-5 in the first half

0-1 in the second. How can the team/staff let that happen?

What are these assertions!?

by DHB Enterprises on Jan 9, 2012 11:03 PM EST reply actions  

They covered him like a tarp

And our offense is trained to pass if they don’t have a shot (which he rarely did)

by Hoya Saxual on Jan 9, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Our Hoyas

The best nfl late regular season diversion going.

Just stop watching once the playoffs start.

Blip

by JahidiLikesPie on Jan 9, 2012 11:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Settle down

It is one half of one game. He is our best player.

by boumtje on Jan 9, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude disappears more than he steps up...

Atleast Austin had heart… just not the size…

by GotOneRunning on Jan 9, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

close loss, everyone calm down

more problematic is that these are dumb losses involving a lot of sloppiness

by eatthatbox09 on Jan 9, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

This wasn't some unlucky loss...

Where the wrong evenly matched team wins. They had 2 guys who could score and they beat us every single time in the paint. Meanwhile we gave them 17 TO’s. Thats an actual problem, not unsolvable but highly troubling.

by genetichoya on Jan 9, 2012 11:06 PM EST up reply actions  

hardly disagreeing that it isn't troubling

just saying we’re not on a one-way street to total meltdown

by eatthatbox09 on Jan 9, 2012 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

WHERE THE FUCK WAS TRAWICK

Needed a boost towards the end, why not bring him in for some defensive intensity on the perimeter? Instead, we switch 25 feet from the basket and have Porter get beat at least twice in a row

by The Lorry Michel Backrub on Jan 9, 2012 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

finally

The real Hoyas full of turnovers, lack of intensity and bad coachin. JTIII called 2 timeouts on one possession for that slop. No one movin. Clark n Hollis dont sniff the ball? Fuk

by SoPhillyHoya on Jan 9, 2012 11:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Team effort, but this one starts with the coach

Did we ever have the right defensive unit out there? It seemed like we were always going big, with Henry/Nate/Otto on the floor (likely due to Nate’s surprising play tonight), and it left us slow on both ends.

by Hoya Annoya on Jan 9, 2012 11:07 PM EST reply actions  

agree

this one is on 3. we got beat by the 4 guard lineup.

on to st johns

Good talk.

by Hire Esherick on Jan 9, 2012 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Porter stepping out of bounds on a botched play

reminiscent of Nikita’s shot off the side of the basket ….

by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Jan 9, 2012 11:07 PM EST reply actions  

except one was in early january and the other in march?

Good talk.

by Hire Esherick on Jan 9, 2012 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I lol'd

Impressed that you could get a laugh from me, given what just happened

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Jan 9, 2012 11:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Getting the ball stolen on an under the basket in bounds

it’s not like they are even running a play, 3 guys run to corners, and 1 guy to mid court. Those turnovers cannot happen.

by The Lorry Michel Backrub on Jan 9, 2012 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

Simmer Down everyone

This isn’t HoyaTalk. The sky isn’t falling. These are 19 year old kids. Pretty sure most of us will have a few shit days at work this year.

by boumtje on Jan 9, 2012 11:09 PM EST reply actions  

Wow

That’s…almost uplifting.

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Jan 9, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm taking it as

This is a team that can play very well, but has a turnover problem (hopefully only for the moment). For a squad of mostly underclassmen, that does not depress me.

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Jan 9, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Fair enough

But given the turnover problems that have been endemic with the last few Hoya teams, it has me in cynical mode right now.

What are these assertions!?

by DHB Enterprises on Jan 9, 2012 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean hollis and jason were on fire

but hollis took maybe 1 shot the whole second half? Either they played truly amazing defense or…what I have no idea.

by genetichoya on Jan 9, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

they shut down hollis

he barely touched the bal

Good talk.

by Hire Esherick on Jan 9, 2012 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

i think the problem isn't the offense

it’s more that Hollis can get completely taken out of the game at times by the other team, and has no way of affecting the game when he’s being targeted by the defense as of right now. It seems like he can’t even get open.

by El Scorcho! on Jan 9, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

but Hollis needs to be able to do something except spot up for 3. He doesn’t seem to get into the game any other way recently.

But this absolutely isn’t all his fault or anything like that.

by El Scorcho! on Jan 9, 2012 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

elevated expectations getting the worst of people

we probably should have lost marquette and won tonight. its college basketball. this stuff happens.

we have a young team and emerging stars. the problems we saw tonight are fixable. our turnovers are from sloppy passing – trying to get too good of a look at the basket.

we’ll be fine. this is a tournament team.

Good talk.

by Hire Esherick on Jan 9, 2012 11:12 PM EST reply actions  

Well summarized

Thank you for the level-headed perspective

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Jan 9, 2012 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree.

This team has shown in early season games that they have the intangibles (like chemistry) that can’t be taught. They just need to be able to capitalize on that under pressure. If making good, confident passes is the biggest thing we need to fix…I’m okay with that.

by Hoya Saxual on Jan 9, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

In the last four years

We are a combined 1-10 against West Virginia and Cincinnati. I’m going to save my judgment on our team until after the Pitt game (the next four), as follows:

4-0: legitimate Elite 8 team that just cannot beat WVU and Cincy
3-1: NCAA tournament team that has an outside shot at making the second weekend.
2-2: Bubblicious at best. Hello, NIT game at McDonough.
1-3: 08-09 all over again.
0-4: ready to jump off a cliff

by Vee Sanford's Next-door Neighbor on Jan 9, 2012 11:13 PM EST reply actions  

I think it's coaching.

I’m usually a big JTIII fan (and don’t think he’s at fault for most of our losses), but going 1-10 against a pair of opponents shows unpreparedness. Same schemes, different players, same results.

by Vee Sanford's Next-door Neighbor on Jan 9, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

painful to watch that one

…was hoping not having to watch the field goalfest would put me in a good mood. this sux

by HuskerHoya on Jan 9, 2012 11:15 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

Let's review my week in sports...

My Penguins are basically holding public tryouts to fill out the roster after all the injuries, and haven’t won in, like, 3 weeks.
The Hoyas have now dropped two in a row…
And my Steelers? Well…http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ni49af&s=5

by PitHoyaFan on Jan 9, 2012 11:15 PM EST reply actions  

Yea, I guess

Just these last four years have given me very little confidence in a close game with less than 2 mins to go

by TheDoctorIsIn on Jan 9, 2012 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Hollis Thompson, 1.8 seconds to go, at Alabama

They can do it…they just need to find a way to do it consistently to be a great team. They may not be ready to be a great team, but we knew that coming into the season, didn’t we?

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Jan 9, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

that is the team

that could finish 10th in the Big East

by The Lorry Michel Backrub on Jan 9, 2012 11:19 PM EST reply actions  

That's true

I think the announcer said there’s never been a shut out in any of the major bowls let alone the NC

I have no idea.

by shwonkBC on Jan 9, 2012 11:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Not jumping off of a cliff, but let's keep it real here

-Our out of conference wins are ‘ok’ at best.
-Our win at Louisville is ‘ok’. Fukn Notre Dame just beat them there.
-We have a complete inability to stop anybody from driving and that has been the case for the last 5 years. We just can’t recruit good enough athletes for some reason.
-Our coach still has absolutely no idea how to run a play a) out of a timeout b) for the hottest shooter on the floor that hasn’t missed in the first half and has 1 FUKN SHOT IN THE SECOND HALF c) know that you can’t continue to play man to man against a team that drives to the hole at will and either scores or gets fouled on every possession. EVERY POSSESSION. Seriously.
-Enough with the “we’re young” bullshit. We start 2 seniors and a junior that has graduated. That is just an excuse.

Up 6 with 6 to go, and we are outscored by 10. At home. We were outplayed and outcoached. I think this one is 100% on JTIII. Pathetic job by him. The tough matchups for us are teams that are athletic, rebound, and play good d. Basically the exact opposite of us.

I hate to say it, but nothing in the last 3 years leads me to believe that this team will do anything but free fall from here. I love the Hoyas and will cheer them on every game, but come on…this shit is getting really old.

"Before the answer was a 3, I was down in Georgetown with a Hoya chick, lawyer chick....."

by brandonbowmansfootistoobig on Jan 9, 2012 11:23 PM EST reply actions  

and not to mention

The ease with which we give the ball away all game long, especially in crunch time is something that I’ve never seen from a top 20 college basketball team in my 33 years. It’s startling.

"Before the answer was a 3, I was down in Georgetown with a Hoya chick, lawyer chick....."

by brandonbowmansfootistoobig on Jan 9, 2012 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Regarding your dismissal of the youth factor

We may start three upperclassmen, but we also have stretches of 1 senior and 4 freshmen on the floor at a time.

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Jan 9, 2012 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

To be fair, the BE sucks across the board

Nova and Pitt are a joke, Uconn just got swept by the NJ teams, etc.

by tjm62 on Jan 9, 2012 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate to say it, but nothing in the last 3 years leads me to believe that this team will do anything but free fall from here.

Unfair. 08-09 was disaster. 09-10 our best scored got diagnosed with diabetes, we still made a strong run at end of season and lost abysmal game in tourney. ’10-11 our leader broke his hand after we had won 9 out of 10.

Those arent excuses, they are realities.

This team will be fine. Porter had the worst game of his career. It is early January, lot of basketball left.

Good talk.

by Hire Esherick on Jan 9, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Porter's worst game

was actually West Virginia, this was his second worst

by The Lorry Michel Backrub on Jan 9, 2012 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm interested in why JTIII left Porter out there

I’m wondering if he’s started coaching for the tournament more

I have no idea.

by shwonkBC on Jan 9, 2012 11:29 PM EST reply actions  

Not sure he had another option

Lubick would get beat. Whittington already got eaten alive. Trawick is an option but JT3 probably believed that Porter on offenses is more valuable than Trawick on defense. For most of the reason, that has been true. Just not tonight.

Good talk.

by Hire Esherick on Jan 9, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

He's been dependable as a scorer and not a liability on defense thus far

With that as a general precedent (and no dfinitively better option), why would he replace him?

by Hoya Saxual on Jan 9, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Trawick is the move there

Everyone, including that dolt Tim Welsh, saw that their entire offense down the stretch was exploit the mismatch of Porter on the perimeter. Their guards got to the basket at will. You have to make an adjustment. Sims not rotating early enough didnt help matters either.

by The Lorry Michel Backrub on Jan 9, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

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