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A Player by Player Evaluation of the Georgetown Hoyas at the Kenner League

The Kenner League regular season wrapped up this past weekend, so it's time for some overall player recaps before we head into the vaunted post-season.  Keep in mind that my main qualification for providing this analysis is a sore back from the bleachers and an immune system that can withstand Kenner League hot dogs.

Tyler Adams: Perhaps it was because I had low expectations for Tyler coming, but I was impressed with what he does well. I knew he had limited athleticism (it's not a sure bet that he can dunk with two hands in full health), but I was impressed with the quickness he showed in tight spaces. His body is so wide that even a vastly superior player like Greg Monroe was slowed because he can't easily overpower him and Adams showed good side to side agility, highlighted by an impressive block on springy George Mason forward who tried to pull off a short fade-away. I'm worried about his health in the long run, as he's been continuously injured, and with the most recent leg injury seemingly on a routine rebound, you have to hold your breath every time he's in traffic. He plays with an edge, and while he's not much of an offensive threat, I could see him stealing minutes if healthy.

 

More evaluations after The Jump:

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Moses Ayegba: Stranded as the lone Hoya on his Kenner League team, Moses wasn't often in the Kenner League limelight, but he has slowly compiled a solid summer. Summer league play is hardly ever conducive to big men and it doesn't help that there weren't any Georgetown guards on his team with instructions to feed him the ball, but Moses has both ran the floor well and finished under around the basket.  His hands are still suspect, but he was able to make some nice moves into the body of Henry Sims during their matchup. He's isn't a supremely disruptive force on defense, but he has the strength to hold his ground in the post.

 

Aaron Bowen: The first time I saw Aaron play was last summer in Kenner League and he was draining from deep with what looked like great form – I even told some friends after at first look there's a chance he could be one of the best shooters on the team. He went onto have a volatile shooting summer, ranging from bad misses to impressive hot streaks and I had hoped this summer to see some more consistency out of the least seasoned sophomore on the team. Unfortunately, he's been consistently unable to hit anything. I haven't seen him hit a jump shot in weeks – all of his points are coming at the rim. He has great leaping ability in the break and on putbacks, but he hasn't found a way to score outside of that – his handle/first step haven't proven overly successful. Encouragingly, he has internalized some of the offense, making one or two great cuts each game.

 

Jason Clark: Clark played on one of the most uptempo teams (and factor in that everyone plays looser and faster in summer league) and had Chris Wright beside him pushing the tempo. If I had my way, I'd have preferred to see Clark teamed up with Moses, but as it stood, Clark looked comfortable on the break and had a few solid shooting outings. I can't say he ever impressed me because we all know what Jason is capable. He can score in bunches and his handle is still slightly suspect under pressure.

 

Mikael Hopkins: As far as I could tell, the lack of hustle/heart label that Hopkins had been given didn't arrive at Kenner League. Sure he's had some quiet games, but if you're a big man who's not a primary ballhandler, that's to be expected. Hopkins has shown willingness to the play in the post, but despite good frame and athleticism, he doesn't have the strength or footwork to score consistently. Similarly he was overpowered by bigger offensive players, but he was a willing help defender and played alert defense (plus some monster swats). Hopkins isn't a natural perimeter player, but he does have some of the tools for a face-up four – he has a nice jump shot and hits open threes. He's not ready to create his own shot, but when he flashes in the paint and crashes the boards, he can find ample scoring opportunities. A nice plus is that he's an above average free throw shooter. Also, I thought this tweet was of interest.

 

Nate Lubick: Part of Nate's fan appeal is that he always seems to play a bit out of control -- and probably part of that aggressiveness makes him successful. But that style does have it's limitations and Nate, despite playing high intensity basketball seemed to show signs of curbing the more excessive lack of control and channeling his high intensity into the likes of better position on rebounds – controlling the glass despite playing below the rim. One can only hope that the Nate's right shoulder injury isn't a setback on his newly minted hitch-less jump shot. It's not textbook, but it's far smoother and more importantly, it goes in a lot (3-3 in games I attended) and he shoots it with great confidence. In the post, I didn't notice much of alteration in his game. With he back to his basket in the post, he made a number of great passes to cutters or kick-outs to the open man, but he wasn't much of a scoring threat.

 

Otto Porter: It's hard to watch Otto this Kenner League and not come down with some off-season delusion. It's abundantly clear he's a perfect fit for JT3's system – he has all the tools to be an effective point-forward. At 6'9", he can handle the ball under pressure and in traffic, he has a smooth mid-range game that makes him a threat at the elbow, he can hit the three point shot, and perhaps most impressively, he has great vision. The Tombs offense has steadily become more and more reliant on Otto as everything seems to run through him, and he delivers at least a few beautiful assists every game. He doesn't have elite speed, but he's willing to come out on defense and he uses his arms to cut off passing lanes to overcome any strength/speed disparity that might exist. He elevates the play of all his teammates on The Tombs and has had some impressive scoring runs himself. Barring the unforeseen, he's going to earn his time on the floor, the question remains at who's going to surrender minutes. I like many had thought perhaps Clark initially, but as a fellow recapper pointed out, the best offense Georgetown can put together might put Otto at the four, if he can hold his own defensively Big East forwards.

 

Henry Sims: Henry seems to have accepted the player he is. I remember many overpowering dunks against undersized opponents last year while paired with Chris Wright -- moves that just don't translate against Big East centers. Almost all of his post moves this summer leave him falling away slightly away from the basket, often a little baby hook. While hypothetically, you don't want to encourage that from a big man, it's probably the most likely shot to work in the regular season and he's made it with good consistency. He's continued to shoot short jumpers at a high clip, even making a few with a hand in his face. Whenever he's posted up, he still struggles to stand his ground, but he's an absolute monster from the weak side, blocking ton of shots in that manner. He's a fair passer, a threat when he received the ball within ten feet of the hoop, and I'd be shocked to see anyone other than him starting at center as he's more polished than Moses or Tyler.

 

Markel Starks: Markel looks like a savvy vet out there, perhaps too much this past weekend when he has pulled back and settled for dumping off to teammates instead of attacking the lane himself. By far the most impressive aspect of his game is his handle in traffic once he gets into the lane – he can put together a dazzling assortment of spins and jukes. This year he seemed less susceptible to over-penetrating and getting himself caught too far in the lane– he had a better sense of when to take the pull up. He's quick and when he gets a step he's in good shape, but he doesn't have blazing speed. A lot of his most effective moves came off pick and rolls from Henry, and who knows if JT3 will relent to putting that in the offense. He shoots with a quick release, but he's streaky and would make most of his points in a shooting/scoring spurt, that often, maybe not coincidentally, came at the beginning of the half.

 

Hollis Thompson: I posed a hypothetical question to Hoya Hoop Club recapper FLHoya, if you were trying to win the Kenner League playoffs next week and could only have one current Hoya player on your team, who would you choose? His answer: Otto or Jabril and then Jason. And I agree. Note that the question wasn't who will be the leading scorer next year or even who's our best player. Kenner League plays a premium on ball handling – you need the ball to score and set offenses aren't a premium. And Hollis, despite being given more responsibility this past weekend with Greivis Vasquez's absence, just isn't an elite player off the bounce. He's clearly been focusing on driving the ball (he hasn't attempted his bread and butter spot up very often) but still appears too mechanical with his moves to be a primary ball-handler or a great slashing threat. That said, when he has it going, he's been able to score in bursts. And let's not overlook that he looks cut – he's added some noticeable muscle.

 

Jabril Trawick: With his motor, height and aggressiveness, Jabril is the type of player the Hoyas have been missing since Patrick Ewing Jr. graduated. He wants to dunk on you and he isn't deterred if there's someone between him and the basket. At 6'5 and with probably the best hops on the team, he goes as hard to the hoop as he can and challenges you to stop him. Consequently, he draws a lot of fouls – this is one of the big keys to his game. When he was dominating the opening few weeks of Kenner, he was getting to the line 5-10 times a game and making nearly all of those shots. Since then (and you should factor in a slight sprain one week and a recent toe injury of some sort) he hasn't gotten to the line with the same frequency and his percentages have dropped off a bit – keeping those two numbers up with be key to his success. What I love about Jabril is that even in a summer league game where he isn't scoring or shooting well (he's a streaky three point shooter), his intensity on both sides of the ball still makes him a factor. He's accounted for nearly as many great swats around the hoop as his taller teammates and seems to relish getting in the face of opposing point guards like Jonathan Wallace and trying to drive them back away from the basket. He doesn't possess blow-by speed or an elite handle, but he'll be able to hold down the back up point guard – against tight pressure he bulls his way across the midway line similar to what Austin would do.

 

Greg Whittington: One of the most interesting players on the team – he's almost impossible to predict if/how JT3 will use him this year. With the Tombs, he's played mostly the two and usually guards one of the weaker players on the other team. But at 6'9, he's quick enough to stay in front of guards (he reminds me a bit of Austin Freeman's on ball defense – he doesn't get burned very often, but he doesn't pressure the ball well). What he has done well is provide help on defense – having him drop down to help from the wing has erased many lay-ups in Kenner League. His three point stroke is probably the prettiest of any freshman (though he hasn't shot it with the same confidence recently) and his long strides let him get to the basket quickly and he seems to favor a short floater. His handle is good for his size, but suspect under pressure. He seems most comfortable on the move and finishes many fast breaks and tip-ins. He's even skinnier with narrower shoulders than Otto, so you wonder how much muscle he'll be able to put on, but he's a very interesting prospect.

 

The Kenner League Playoffs start this Thursday and all six Hoya populated teams will be participating over the weekend. 

 

For a more in-depth breakdown, peruse our Kenner League Recaps: Day OneTwoThreeFourFiveSix...Ten and Eleven.

 

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starks

markel’s going to be a huge key this season so it’s good to see he’s coming into his own as a point guard, or at least as much as one can expect in summer league play.

#excitedinmypants as far as jabril’s concerned.

does otto play with a chip on his shoulder or is he more passive like monroe was?

Casually.

by CasualHoya on Aug 2, 2011 9:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Otto is more like Austin than Greg — it’s hard to get a read on him.

by TheMidRangeGame on Aug 2, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

disagree – Otto plays with much more energy and focus than both of those guys

i wouldn’t describe him as having a chip on his shoulder like Jabril, but he plays with a strong focus and intensity… he is always into the game

by hj2008 on Aug 2, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can it be

a ‘passive aggressive’ chip on his shoulder….

by Big Spoon on Aug 2, 2011 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

I HATE to say this but...

goddam are we built for a 2-3 zone. Lots of long, young, not necessarily fundamentally sound defenders. sounds like a 2-3 zone would get them on the court + protect them.

Although, with Markel supposedly focused on his defense and Jabril’s tenacity + the abundance of quality help defenders, maybe we shouldn’t and just stick to a primary man to man with lots of sagging and winning the paint.

bottomline, i want to see better defense. kenner doesn’t help learn about that.

by thejerseytornado on Aug 2, 2011 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

I think you might be onto something with zone because there aren’t elite on ball defenders. What I would love to see is the 3/4 zone trap with Jabril/Clark out front and Hollis and Otto on the wings.

by TheMidRangeGame on Aug 2, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

My only concern with a press is inexperience

specifically that it requires more time during a practice (so they would be even worse at our complicated system than otherwise expected) and that if the trap is broken, they’ll be even worse defenders.

though considering what i’ve heard from multiple recaps about how Jabril, Greg W, and Otto love playing the passing lanes, it might not be a bad idea at all. I wonder if you could run a 3/4 zone trap with a 2-3 zone if they break it.

either way, i want a defense that creates more turnovers. with the upgrade in size and athleticism this freshman class offers, i hope that’s the case. more turnovers = more running on offense = breaking the stupid “georgetown is slow” story + more wins.

by thejerseytornado on Aug 2, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

we could definitely see more matchup zone this year

don’t think we’ll ever play a more standard zone under III, though

by hj2008 on Aug 2, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair

the Hoyas didn’t have any length at all, so as we see how the Hoyas have grabbed some athletic players HOPEFULLY things will turn out for the better!

by Big Spoon on Aug 3, 2011 6:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to believe that to be the problem with our 2-3 zone

but actually, it was just slow/lazy close-outs and/or over sagging to make the close-outs on shooters too difficult to make.

perhaps, with more length +athleticism, those closeouts would be easier. Perhaps the new guys will do a better job spacing themselves. all i know is we did play a 2-3, so JT3’s willing to try it. Hopefully these guys are better at it. last year’s 2-3 was terrible. It did have a 6’4 Austin as a wing defender. Replacing him with a 6’6/6’7 Hollis @ the 3 would help. Not sure Lubick is a great wing defender for the 2-3, though.

by thejerseytornado on Aug 3, 2011 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why does everybody want to...

play a zone so bad… It’s the worst defense in basketball. The only reason Syracuse’s zone is semi succesfull is because its a matchup 2-3 with strong man to man principles

by yaboynyp on Aug 3, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

two reasons

one, a lot of teams can’t handle when you switch defenses on them. So changing between zone and man-to-man can confuse point guards/screw up sets.

two, a lot of our defenders aren’t good on-the-ball guys. Clark’s overrated at that, Starks wasn’t great, Hollis and Henry can get bodied by bigger players @ their position, and freshmen are freshmen. Lubick committed too many fouls. A zone helps compensate for that disadvantage.

Plus, a zone allows players like Otto and Jabril and Greg W. and Clark play the passing lanes more. they all seem to enjoy + are good at that. On the other hand, in man-to-man, Jabril’s going to have a tough time keeping up with smaller guards potentially, Otto’s frame is a little thin for BE play, Greg W. doesn’t have the lateral speed, Hopkins can get beat in the post with toughness, etc. It covers their weakness.

Basically, the zone lets freshmen get more minutes and might help shake the doldrums off of what’s been a pretty mediocre defense these past couple of years.

by thejerseytornado on Aug 3, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

99% of defense is..

Effort, positioning and understanding what spots your opponent likes to get to in order to score and taking that away. Although I understand what you guys are saying in theory I respectfully disagree.

Jabril’s size and athleticism will allow him to give quicker guard space as he gets off the floor so quickly he can still bother their shot. Otto is no skinnier than Jeremy Lamb who did a very adequate job defending his position last year for Uconn, same with Whittington. I agree with what you say regarding Mikael but In the Big East there’s not a lot of big physical big men in the league this year that I think can give Hopkins trouble. Only ones I could think of would be Herb Pope, Gilchrest, Yancy Gates, and Oriackhi.

I just think after watching a 38 yr old Jason Kidd play such stellar defense on Kobe Bryant, and Dwayne Wade in the playoffs that these guys can get it done if they commit to it on that end. You have to want it. Jabril definitely does, and that attitude seems to be carrying over to the other frosh. I think they will be ready, and if they fail? There’s no better teacher than failure sometimes.

by yaboynyp on Aug 4, 2011 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think the kidd comparison is apt

kidd’s got veteran wils and knowledge, along with that commitment.

Nate Lubick last year was committed in many respects to playing defense. Part of what happens when you’re young and committed is that you commit fouls as well. A freshman committed to defense who has any athletic disadvantage (Jabril vs. smaller guards, Mikael vs. bigger bodies—however many there are, I’d include Kiliciz, etc.) is going to lead to fouls. A zone protects players from committing fouls.

Lamb never had to defend in the post. I’m not sure Otto will have two bigger bodies on the court with him at all times (I can hope so, but we’ll see) like Lamb did with Oriakhi, Smith, and Okwandu. He should be stuck on a SF, but another aspect of G’town’s man to man (one I like) is that we switch on screens a lot. Conn didn’t switch Lamb much if I remember correctly.

80 or 90 percent of defense is that mental game. But that needs to mature for freshmen just like they need to continue to grow into their physical game. I’m not saying frosh can’t do it, I’m saying it’s an added difficulty. It might be worth it to try a zone with them.

PLUS, if you believe zones aren’t just a gimmick defense, one of the things a matchup 2-3 zone does is emphasize length over “abilty to stay with your man” (not sure there’s a term for that). The Hoyas next year will have scary length. Cincy’s defense last year was reminiscent of that—just a ton of long dudes bothering the f*ck out of the passing lanes + then playing aggressive on-man defense once they matchup. The hoyas could implement that with the lineup we have and I think we have much better offensive players than Cincy did last year. that’d be a quality system.

I don’t think the patient hoyas defense of previous years, the one that thought “let’s all run the clock down, we’re more efficient and patient than you” is the right approach. that’s the real reason for my interest in a zone. time to try to get more aggressive on defense. I’m cool with not trying to get more aggressive on offense—we’re still a good offensive team without that aggression. but our defense needs to have a different energy. part of that is new, more aggressive defenders. part is having a SF who is taller than 6’4. part is implementing an aggressive scheme.

by thejerseytornado on Aug 4, 2011 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

At the end of the day

it’s all about trusting the players to make the mistakes and learn from it. Hopefully JT3 will be flexible and let his players learn from those mistakes. Furthermore, I would like to see the Hoyas do some pressing as well (perhaps 3/4) due to the length as well in disrupting the tempo.

Again, I have to remind myself that this is a very young team w/out any established ‘leadership’ on the court as of yet (b/c you’re ‘senior’ on the team doesn’t make a player a leader by default).

by Big Spoon on Aug 5, 2011 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

true, but we pretty much only used a standard 2-3 as a gimmick defense once or twice a game, never for long stretches. in fact i would bet 90%+ of the time it was for one possession after a timeout or on an in-bounds under the basket

we have used a match-up zone for longer stretches in the past

by hj2008 on Aug 3, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

5 frosh

Jabril seems tough and a good recruit
Otto seems lik he will be the leader
Greg.. I believe will be a star one day
Hopkins.. dont know to much about but seems to hav talent
Adams.. big body.. needs to stay healthy

by lilza5bball on Aug 2, 2011 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Too early for starting line-up speculation?

Markel, Jason, Hollis, Nate, Henry with Jabril and Otto getting significant minutes off the bench?

by GhostOfWattad on Aug 2, 2011 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Call me whatever.............

Delusional, crazy, or overly optimistic but I say that we go deep into the Big East this year as well as next!!! Markel, Sims, and Nate have seemed to have made solid improvements this summer, while Hollis and Clark will undoubtedly be the leaders. Otto and Jabril are a pair of no brainers to play hard, while I see Greg, Mikael and Moses making considerable contributions. That leaves Aaron and Adams to figure out which one wants to be the lone bench warmer or the first 2012 transfers!!!!

Eastcoastteddy

by Melvin M. Tuggle III on Aug 2, 2011 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

yep

if you look closely you can see the onions

by hj2008 on Aug 3, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

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