A Post-Deadline Look at the Big East: Notre Dame Fighting Irish
Notre Dame is almost the opposite example of Marquette. They finished second in the Big East, had the BE Player of the Year, had the Coach of the Year (and this time he actually deserved it), and amassed a 25-5 record 14-4 in BE play, earning a #2 seed in the NCAA tournament. Then they flamed out losing to tenth seeded Florida State in the second round. As fans we tend to put a huge emphasis on post-season play, so despite an excellent regular season many Irish view last year as a disappointment.
Will Notre Dame be able to redeem themselves and return to last years regular season form?
Key Loses:
Graduating: Tyrone Nash (9.5pts, 5.9rbds, 2.6asts), Ben Hansborough (18.4pts, 4.3asts, 3.9rbds)
Early Entry: Carleton Scott (11.2pts, 7.4rbds, 2.1asts)
Transferring: None
Key Returns:
Seniors: Tim Abromaitis (15.4pts 6.1rbds)(6th year senior), Scott Martin (9.7pts, 4.8rbds) (5th year senior who will still have a year of eligibility left if he so chooses) Oddly enough, they will have no normal seniors
Juniors: Jack Cooley (3.7pts, 3.1rbds), Mike Broghammer (1.8pts, 1.0rbds), Joey Brooks (1.6pts, 1.1rbds), Tom Knight (1.4pts, 1.1rbds) (RS Sophomore)
Sophomores: Eric Atkins (5.8pts, 3.2asts), Alex Dragicevich (1.4pts, 0.8rbds), Jerian Grant (RS last year)
Incoming Recruits:
Pat Connaughton 6'5" SF #96 Scout # 128 Rivals NR ESPN
Eric Katenda 6'8" PF NR Scout #118 Rivals NR ESPN
Notre Dame, despite starting five seniors last year, manages to retain two starters from last year's team as Abromaitis and Martin will continue to use their remaining eligibility. That being said ND loses quite a lot including:
- 52.8 percent of their scoring,
- 47.3 percent of their rebounding,
- 54.7 percent of their assists,
- 46 percent of their steals, and
- 65 percent of their blocks.
They lose the Big East Player of the Year in Ben Hansborough who was their leading scorer, leading assist man, led them in steals and their best three point shooter. They lose Carleton Scott to the NBA who was their leader in blocks and rebounds as well as their best FT shooter. Finally they lose Tyrone Nash who was their best at drawing fouls and grabbing offensive rebounds, and was third in assists, fifth in scoring and third in rebounding.
That being said the cupboard is not bare in South Bend. Second leading scorer and rebounder Tim Abromitis returns as does Purdue transfer Scott Martin who was fourth in scoring and fourth in rebounding. Eric Atkins returns for a sophomore campaign and will replace Hansborough's at point guard, but will struggle to fill his role as a three point threat and scorer. The fourth major returning player is Luke Harangody look-a-like Jack Cooley. He had the highest field goal percentage on the team and showed a lot of potential last year and will be a candidate for most improved player next year.
Mike Brey's teams rely on experience. As a result players often don't get a lot of time in their first two years and then emerge as legit players in the Big East for their junior campaigns. ND red shirts a lot of players without injuries - something rare in college basketball. This results in very experienced teams. ND's bread and butter will always be their offense and last years unique makeup and length made them a matchup nightmare for many teams. It was Florida State's ability to match that length that allowed them to pull the upset. ND will still be long, starting at least three players over 6'8" The 5th starting spot is up for grabs and it will be interesting to see if Brey goes for a smaller player like Joey Brooks or goes big like Tom Knight.
The Irish bring in a two person recruiting class. Freshman often don't get a lot of playing time, but with the substantial loses to last years team their could be an opening for a freshman to make their mark.
- Pat Connaughton is exactly what you would imagine a typical ND recruit would look like. For starters, he's white and he's an excellent three point shooter. He's a scrappy wing who rebounds well. He needs to work on his handle and mid-range game to become a fully rounded player. But looks to become another in a long line of Irish bombers.
- Eric Katenda was a former Hoya target that we passed on. He's a project at this point; lots of potential, but not ready to contribute right away. He's athletic but a bit soft and prefers the perimeter and face up game to banging on the blocks. Most likely will get minimal time and could be a candidate for a red shirt.
The bottom line is that the Irish will be down a bit from last year, but perhaps not as down as opponents might hope. They still have veteran leadership and length and will still put the ball in the basket at a high rate. Notre Dame looks to fall into the middle of the pack of the Big East. It's very hard to distinguish between teams in this area as the Irish will fall some where between 6th and 10th next year.
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Scottie Reynolds
wasn’t he like an 8 year player?
by Coach K's kneepads on May 17, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Katenda was a Gtown recruit, so he must not be very good
I think we finish ahead of them next year
Complete filler- But the last Game of Thrones episode had at least three oh shit moments, all things I had not seen before on TV. Very good epsidoe, great pay-off for the first four episodes.
Speaking of TV....
Watched every second of Total Recall on SyFy last night, featuring my favorite womanizing, out of wedlock kid having, California governing actor of all time. Question: Has there been a hotter chick on this earth (or Mars, for that matter) than Sharon Stone was in that movie? I say no.
"Before the answer was a 3, I was down in Georgetown with a Hoya chick, lawyer chick....."
by brandonbowmansfootistoobig on May 17, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
stone was a smokeshow in that one, no diggity
but wasn’t there a woman with THREE BREASTS in there, too?
Casually.
Indeed there was, well played
She was a working girl in Venusville, if memory serves me correctly.
"Before the answer was a 3, I was down in Georgetown with a Hoya chick, lawyer chick....."
by brandonbowmansfootistoobig on May 17, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Anybody watching The Killing?
Thoughts on Ashton in Two and a Half Men?
I’m going with Fail.
by iheartgregmonroe on May 17, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Demi going to guest star?
And is he the same character or new character?
Enquiring minds want to know.
by bunk moreland on May 18, 2011 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions
started re-watching the killing after you said it
completely forgot about that show
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on May 18, 2011 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I believe you are looking for this:
http://warmingglow.uproxx.com/2011/05/who-ordered-horse-decapitation#page/1
And yes, that show is currently the best thing on TV – so good I went out and read all four of the available books in two weeks.
by WarmupEwing on May 17, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
tip of the cap
what is that – 5,000 pages in two weeks impressive.
by bunk moreland on May 17, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Were the non-infant breast-feeding and the dude-on-dude the other two oh-shit moments?
by HoyaSmacksYa on May 17, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
yes - it was the manscaping
that made it unique.
by bunk moreland on May 17, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
You'd think Gillette would see a lucrative tie-in feature
Five blades, and now with Valyrian steel!
by HoyaSmacksYa on May 17, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
New book out in June
Let's settle this with a poll.
by wadetandy on May 17, 2011 4:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Liking the ongoing theme
Of awkward pictures of other teams (except DePaul, which I am taking as showing some class and not mocking the perennial bottom feeder).
by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on May 17, 2011 12:11 PM EDT reply actions
I'm glad someone noticed
and appreciates.
Took a while to find this one. Searching Notre Dame only got football photos. Searching Notre Dame Basketball gave me pictures of the women’s team.
by hoyasincebirth on May 17, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Marquette's was the best so far
ND a close second
by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on May 17, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently Duke lost a recruit to UNC
Because they couldn’t spell his name right
P.J. Hairston on his recruiting:
"I’m like, ‘OK. How can I go here? You can’t even spell my name right,’" Hairston said about Duke. "It’s only two letters and HAIR and STON. I’m trying to figure out how that’s so hard."
by rochesterhoya07 on May 17, 2011 3:59 PM EDT reply actions

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