Backing Into A Bye: Georgetown Hits Rock Bottom, Loses 69-47 At Cincinnati
Today was a tough day for Georgetown fans. Down 43-39 with eight minutes to play, the Hoyas proceeded to get blown off the court, losing 69-47 at Cincinnati. The Bearcats went on a 26-8 run to close the game, resulting in the Hoyas third straight loss and fourth in the last five games. Austin Freeman couldn't buy a bucket, but played valiantly in his last Big East regular season game, scoring 21 points on 7-23 shooting. Hollis Thompson was the only other Hoya in double figures, scoring 12 points. Julian Vaughn and Jason Clark combined for 5 points on 1-14 shooting.
The reality is that Georgetown isn't a very good team without Chris Wright. They have scored 46, 51 and 47 points since Wright went down with a broken hand, and there are no other playmakers on the team even remotely in Wright's realm. Even more troubling is the lack of rebounding and perimeter defense. Cincinnati outrebounded the Hoyas by 11 and hit nine threes. Georgetown's free throw defense was atrocious as well, as the Bearcats hit 24-30 from the charity stripe.
You know that noise Snooki makes that sounds like "wahhhhh"? More of that after The Jump.
Without Wright, it is hard to imagine Georgetown winning another game this season. Good news is that Wright is slated to be back by the time the NCAA Tournament starts. The Hoyas started Big East play with a 1-4 record, winning unimpressively against Depaul and bottoming out with a 15 point destruction against Pitt. Then they ripped off eight straight wins in the middle of the schedule. Then they finished with a 1-4 record, winning unimpressively against South Florida and bottoming out with a 22 point drubbing against Cincinnati. Am I saying the Hoyas are primed for another streak when Wright comes back? Crazier things have happened. But it is hard to imagine Wright coming back at full strength, and there just aren't enough talented players on this team to pick up the slack.
Julian Vaughn and Henry Sims were terrible today. Jason Clark and Austin Freeman were a combined 8 of 33 from the field, and Clark can't hit a shot unless he is wide open from three. Jerrelle Benimon isn't a high D-1 caliber contributor, Vee Sanford doesn't get the opportunity to do anything because he plays in 30 second spurts, and Nate Lubick and Markel Starks are a year away from really doing damage. Duke and Purdue have been able to weather injuries to Kyrie Irving and Robbie Hummel because they were stocked with more talent at the positions where those players got hurt. John Thompson III put all his eggs in one basket with Wright, and since he's been hurt, the team has been completely lost.
The Hoyas backed into the 8th seed in the Big East Tournament because UConn lost to Notre Dame. Georgetown will play at 12:00pm on Wednesday, March 9 against either UConn, Villanova, or Marquette. Don't expect a victory. Just hope that Wright can somehow be pre-injury effective when the NCAA Tournament starts.
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Could we have CW back for the BET?
http://twitter.com/1RonThompson/status/43730839640608768#
Don’t know if I would prefer to rush him back and give this team some confidence or wait until the games actually count.
by Vee Sanford's Next-door Neighbor on Mar 5, 2011 4:49 PM EST reply actions
"Georgetown's free throw defense was atrocious as well, as the Bearcats hit 24-30 from the charity stripe."
Is this really a stat that people keep? It seems impossible.
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discovered a new drink today
white wine with vodka
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by JahidiLikesPie on Mar 5, 2011 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
if you're actually enjoying that, i've got an excellent recipe for sparkling white sangria
it involves your current two mixers…plus seltzer, fruit and sugar to make it slightly more socially acceptable (but just as deadly)
too late
switched to bourbon and applesauce
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by JahidiLikesPie on Mar 5, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
Really happy the Lady Hoyas beat Syracuse
Casually.
by CasualHoya on Mar 5, 2011 4:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I have a voucher for student BET tickets...
Should I use it for something useful like toilet or rolling paper? Or should I just light it on fire?
by WallaceAtTheLineShooting2 on Mar 5, 2011 4:55 PM EST via mobile reply actions
god thats cynical even for me.
by WallaceAtTheLineShooting2 on Mar 5, 2011 4:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Use it for rolling paper, THEN light it on fire?
And hope there’s extra-fun chemicals in the ink that’ll help bring you back to delusional…
it would not be a pleasant experience.
Which is why it seems appropriate to use as such, given the last three games.
by WallaceAtTheLineShooting2 on Mar 5, 2011 5:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Now that we've all read the tie-breaker scenarios...
Assuming no first round BET upset, we play ‘Nova if they win (they beat Marquette), Marquette if they win and ’Nova loses, or the Kembas if all 3 teams end up 9-9 (Kembas would have a 2-1 record in the mini conference, ’Nova 1-1, Marquette 1-2). But we avoid the potential soul-crushing loss to DePaul… So we’ve got that going for us!
by fromCourtlandtoAustin on Mar 5, 2011 5:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions
we have nothing going for us
absofuckinglutely NOTHING
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by JahidiLikesPie on Mar 5, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
we have hoya hoop club happy hour at Stout NYC?
And free sliders and chicken wings!… I hope?
by WallaceAtTheLineShooting2 on Mar 5, 2011 5:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
somewhere
my future AA sponsor is really disappointed in me right now
by RandyMossStoleMySweatshirt on Mar 5, 2011 5:12 PM EST reply actions
Actually I'd think our sponsors would be proud...
That we all recognized before the networks that we got the 8th seed and the bye.
by fromCourtlandtoAustin on Mar 5, 2011 5:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sitting alone in the dark oddly cathartic
Casually.
by CasualHoya on Mar 5, 2011 5:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Go to an effing parade
It MARDI GRAS in NOLA . . . at least you have a BIWINNING CASUAL CITY-WIDE STREET PARTY to help take your mind off this awful loss . . . the DC folks are stuck with empty bottles of rye and impending thunderstorms
by RepublicansWearNikes2 on Mar 5, 2011 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
rain has pushed endymion to tomorrow, rolling after bachus uptown
Big Sunday
Casually.
by CasualHoya on Mar 5, 2011 6:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yes it will
No way better to get over a loss than catching assorted items thrown from a float.
by lahoya on Mar 6, 2011 1:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nova loses
If Marquette wins they get 9 seed and will likely be our Wednesday opponent.
If Marquette loses UConn gets the 9.
Casually.
by CasualHoya on Mar 5, 2011 6:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Geaux Warriors!!!
UConn would destroy us
by RepublicansWearNikes2 on Mar 5, 2011 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
who is grand marshal of endymion this year?
Acceptable answers include Blake Lively, Charlie Sheen, or John Thompson, Jr. Anything less would be uncivilized.
Really jonesing for choice spot in the Vieux Carre right now. Off to store to buy sixer of Restoration for a non-NOLA and really sad Mardi Gras party
by RepublicansWearNikes2 on Mar 5, 2011 6:22 PM EST reply actions
Anderson Cooper and Kelly fucking Ripa
Casually.
by CasualHoya on Mar 5, 2011 7:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Vernon Macklin killing Vandy
This is the worst night of JGD’s life
Casually.
by CasualHoya on Mar 5, 2011 8:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions
CW Not the Answer!
The article is right…Hoyas are not very good without CW. But, they are not all that great with him either. Most of their conference wins were by a SLIM margin…they certainly did not dominate. Games without him showed total lack of depth and poise. Sims and Benimon have been little to no help since joining the team. If Clark and Thompson have a bad game (way too many of them) we have no chance. Freeman can’t carry the whole team on his back!
I’ve been following this team for 30 years and though I’ll never give up, there is something wrong with this program. Look at what St. John’s has done this season and moreover, what about their recruits for next year? They are going to dominate in another 1-2 years. Where will the Hoyas be?
i've been following the hoyas for my whole life (less than 30 years)
But we were 10-5 in the BE with CW healthy… and his absence clearly hurt our offense beyond repair. Freeman can take over a game, but only if someone else in penetrating.
Maybe im naive, but im in full “benefit of the doubt mode” until the tournament,
by WallaceAtTheLineShooting2 on Mar 5, 2011 9:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The problem is recruiting
Everyone on this board keeps mocking me and your wrong. UNC lost their PG mid season. What did they do? Plug in a McDonald’s all american in Marshall and become an even better team than they were. Gtown loses our PG mid season what do we do? TANK. Starks may be a great player down the road, but as a freshmen the lower recruits will not be able to contribute the same way highly rated recruits generally will. Fab Melo sucks I know. Not every case is true, but in general they are the same as freshmen as they were as HS seniors. When was the last time you saw a guy go from less than 3 stars to the NBA in one year? Thats an extremem example, but you get the point.
You could even take it a step further and say Starks should not have to start if ANY of the other guards could run the point. You can’t win with 1 viable PG on the entire roster. Recruiting has as much to do with depth as it does your stars. Teams with consistently high ranked classes have a lot of talent on the bench. Other schools fill the bench with JuCo transfers and 3 star or less recruits. Duke, UNC, Kansas have benches that could probably beat half the schools in the country. Us? …we have Benimon
by PhillyPeetzWitRanch on Mar 5, 2011 9:21 PM EST reply actions
I have a legit question for you
Would one really get a cheesesteak with ranch?
Casually.
by CasualHoya on Mar 5, 2011 9:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Philly CheeseSteak not the same place as Philly Pizza my man
is Philly Pizza not there anymore?
by PhillyPeetzWitRanch on Mar 5, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
The ranch dressing goes on your Pepperoni Pizza
and if anyone did not know they use(d) Ken’s buttermilk ranch. If you have not tried this, do so.
by PhillyPeetzWitRanch on Mar 5, 2011 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
Ooh I can dig it
I would pour that buttermilk ranch all over my face
Casually.
by CasualHoya on Mar 5, 2011 10:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
If you're going to compare us to Duke UNC and Kansas you're bound to be disappointed
There aren’t too many programs who can roll out a roster with 10 McDonald’s All-Americans and newsflash, we aren’t one of them. The past three games have been frustrating, I agree, but losing a starting senior PG at this point in the season is going to cripple 95% of college basketball teams.
And I disagree that our recruiting focus should be on stacking the team with players just because they are McDonald’s All-Americans or rated highly by Rivals. I would argue that on paper, our 2009 team was much more talented than our 2007 team. In 2009, we had at least three McDonald’s All-Americans – Monroe, Wright, Freeman. In 2007, I’m pretty sure we had none. We have done just fine with players who fit into the system and make strong strides over three or four years.
by rochesterhoya07 on Mar 6, 2011 1:25 AM EST up reply actions
still mocking you
you never answered the question i asked you a couple months ago. who do you want coaching the hoyas?
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Mar 6, 2011 2:34 AM EST up reply actions
also mocking you
because every time something goes wrong you come here comparing georgetown to the same four progamrs: unc, duke, kansas and kentucky.
what big east freshman recruits could have stepped into wright’s shoes?
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Mar 6, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Work with me here...
The last time we lost 3 games in a row, we then won 8 straight. By my calculation, if we repeat that feat we will be champions of the Big East Tourney and in the Final four in a few weeks, and then we’ll lose to Ohio St…
I understand why people are blaming the Wright injury for our recent problems....
but overlooked from this is how awful our low post play has been these last three games. Sims and Lubick are not consistent, almost non-existent scoring options and Vaughn has really struggled as teams seem to be able to force him out of position easier now, theyre defending him a lot tougher, and he’s been forced to rush shots and lose confidence in his shots.
IMO, even if we had no Wright, we wouldn’t be nearly this bad if we had any type of low post scoring threat.
A broken hand can't break our heart. Hoya Saxa!
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Mar 5, 2011 11:05 PM EST reply actions
meant to say too
if we had a low post scoring threat that would prevent teams from mugging us on the perimeter, which has completely closed off us getting open jumpers
A broken hand can't break our heart. Hoya Saxa!
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Mar 5, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
The System.......
……is not flexible to available talent and opponents. We have not played great defense the last few games but opponents have shot in the low 40% range. WE SHOULD WIN THOSE GAMES……….and I do not care who is on the floor. Injuries happen. We need to be able to win with the players we have………..not just the top 5 who start the game. Other teams work though injuries. God knows that we are so much better off than a few short years ago when Nikita and Omar were our top bench options. I think that we have the talent, but it is so muzzled by the “system”. How else can one explain the ridiculous shooting percentages that we have experienced over the past few games. No confidence. Fear. Just listen to coach who is silent on the sidelines. No one stepping up. Afraid to. We will lose on Wednesday and then we will lose in the first round of the NCAAs. Season done. How sad. When will we recruit or develop leaders. How many games were Hibbert and Green (both solid NBA players) taking 4-6 shots? Why? Deference to the “system”? The best leader we had over the past 6 years was probably JWall. And I watched us lose 2 NCAA games with JWall sitting down at the end of the game. For defensive or offensive roation reasons. At some point, it is just about heart and desire. Not the damn system.
With huge paranoia,
to be honest
at some points of the ‘system’ how is it that the PF is stroking 3’s? Ball rotation ends up in their hands in the finals seconds so guess what, they have to hoist up the 3 and that is pretty much a turnover, so the system does take it’s toll if it’s ‘tweeked’ to a certain extent. When GMonroe was on the floor he ran the high post and that took him out of positioning in regards to rebounding. Rebounding and Defense is the achilles heel and it has plagued the Hoyas the past few years, something has to be done, and JT3 has to respond on how he’s going to come about trying to maximize the effort of his team.
Recruit, Recruit, Recruit
I am so fearful of next year!
We are going to be terrible.
Lets be honest, the only D1 players we have for next year are Hollis, Markel, and Nate.
by Hoyas Joey Brown on Mar 6, 2011 9:51 AM EST reply actions
I worry about next year too...
But I think coach recognizes the failing he’s had in recruiting and has put together better classes…
Looks like a NIT year next year, but we’ll have the chance to be really good in 2012-2013
by VictorPage'sLeftEye on Mar 6, 2011 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
Don't dig the grave just yet.
I’m as upset as anyone on yesterday’s outcome, but it bears repeating that we were in a slump like this earlier this year and then went on a tear. Yes, we did have CW for that run and his return is in doubt at this time. However, we do have the promise of playing again next week and then in two more weeks in the NCAA’s. While I’m skeptical as probably any of you at this moment that the Hoyas can’t seem to stop anyone defensively, score any point, and generally look pretty listless right now, we do have the opportunity to make some noise in the BET next week and in the Big Dance.
I’m keeping the hearse in the garage for a little while longer. Please do the same.
(Although we REALLY need a victory right about now).
I marched on Leavey to keep the Pub open in the 90's.
At lease start the engine but dont open the garage
by Hoyas Joey Brown on Mar 6, 2011 1:51 PM EST up reply actions

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