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Former John Thompson Jr. player "Bashful" strikes again:

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This Wednesday the Hoyas return to the Carrier Dome for an important game with Syracuse. The conventional wisdom and likelihood is that the Hoyas will lose this game for a variety of reasons:

  1. The Dome is a pretty serious home court advantage. This usually manifests itself in adverse officiating.
  2. Both teams are roughly equivalent in the rankings. While GU has a better offense, Syracuse has a very good defense. So the tie goes to the home team.
  3. JT III has never won in the Carrier Dome.

(How Georgetown Will Win After the Jump)

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Obviously, I want Georgetown to win and will watch ESPN rooting for them to do so. If that is to happen, we need to focus on one thing intensively. Play defense like we did against St. John's (in the Jan.26 game), Villanova and Louisville. The defensive intensity which was on display against Providence will not cut it. We need to hold the Orange to about 40% shooting from the floor. This is not that an impossible task. As I watched Seton Hall and Villanova beat Syracuse, it became pretty clear that the Orange lack a real "go to" offensive player to create shots and score other than Kris Joseph. Jardine and Triche are very streaky and volatile shooters who have a tough time creating their own shot against good defensive pressure. Jackson is a big body who may score off offensive rebounds but he is not creating anything. If the Georgetown team comes out focused on leaving every ounce of effort on the defensive floor, they can win. After all, this team beat Syracuse in the last six quarters of their three games last year. As much as we miss Greg Monroe, Syracuse is much weaker without Johnson, Onawaku and Rautins.

To emphasize how important the commitment to defense is let's borrow some analysis from our friends at Hoya Prospectus.

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Defensive Performance = Expected points allowed - points allowed

Georgetown is 12-2 when the defense out performs expectations and only 6-3 when it doesn't.

The defensive effort in the three games between Jan. 26 and 31 is absolutely necessary to win games against quality Big East opponents. Our offense is something that comes naturally to this team and, as we saw in the end of January games, it can flow off a good defense.

Now with respect to our offense, it is important to attack the Syracuse zone at its seams rather than rely too heavily on shooting over the top of the zone. Austin, Jason and Chris are just too short to shoot over those guys. Attack the seams as effectively as we did in the second half of the Verizon game against Syracuse last year and our BET victory over them. Also the guards on Nova and Theodore from the Hall did it very well. So, JT III, please show the team those tapes this week.

Other thoughts on the team so far:

In order for us to have a successful run to the end of the season, we need to continue to work on and improve our season to date performance on defense and turnovers.  We also need to improve our efficiencies in individual spots.

  • Austin Freeman and Jason Clark: look to create more 12 foot jumpers or drives if they are playing up on the threes. And please appreciate the value of getting to the line. Not only do you put points on the board as you are both good foul shooters you are limiting the time on the court or intensity of the defense by your opponents. We, as a team, need to get to the line more often-look at how beneficial it was against Villanova.
  • Julian Vaughn, Nate Lubick and Henry Sims: establish a routine for your foul shots and go through it every time. Also bend your knees on your foul shots. Against Providence all three of you looked stiff.
  • Henry Sims:  you need to spend 30 minutes after every practice working with a coach on your defensive and offensive footwork. Please develop a drop step move in the post..
  • Nate Lubick: avoid unnecessary fouls --we are so much better when you are in the game. Also work with Henry on a drop step post move.
  • Jerrelle Benimon: I know the Benimonster has taken unbelievable and not unwarranted heat on this site for some charges and fouls that have really broken momentum in recent games.  But let's understand something about what he brings to the table. He is a physical defensive presence with size that can counter other teams' similar players. He is tall and strong where our starting team was small and not physical until we began starting Lubick. Nate and Vaughn are better in this area than Jerrelle and Henry but fouls and pace are going to require that these two get minutes. I would reference the St. John's game when Justin Burrell saw Henry come in the game and just went right at him-physically backing him down in the paint. Jerrelle switched up on him and that stopped immediately. You need that at times and he is one of our enforcers. He really needs just to keep himself under control when going to the basket and to never take a three point shot. If he has his head in the game, Benimon could be the guy with the size and ability to shut down Kris Joseph on Wednesday.

Let's go get 'em.

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Cuse Zone

You can really damage their zone if you have a guy that can catch the ball at the foul line and corners of the foul line, turn and hit that jumper. It pulls the center of the zone up, allowing for cutting on the base line and swing passes to the wings for open shots. Also, sending cutters through on the ball side sucks defenders into the middle and opens up swing passes over the top for open shots.

It's a great day to be great - Greg Jennings

by Esteban d' Amur on Feb 8, 2011 9:09 AM EST reply actions  

Hank

he’s shown me he can hit that shot

by hoyafan03 on Feb 8, 2011 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

maybe we can sneak Monroe back into the game

give him a disguise and see if Cuse notices….

I feel soooo sad that you & your orange clad kinfolk can't get tickets to our home game.....

by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Feb 8, 2011 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

High post man must turn around when he gets the ball

Commentators in the ’Cuse-UConn game noticed that UConn was not doing this. JV and HS can both do this. I think we will be more ffective cutting off the high poast than taking the 12-15 foot jumpers. It will also gtet us to the line more often.

by DrTox on Feb 8, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I tend to agree with you...

but if you can hit that 12-15 footer it opens the cutting lanes even more. If the post man can’t hit that, the center defender on the zone can sag back into the passing lanes and the top two defenders don’t need to crash down into the middle as quickly.

It's a great day to be great - Greg Jennings

by Esteban d' Amur on Feb 8, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Defense wins championships

And yes Benimon should never… ever… take a three.

"That is crap. It is unfair."

by Iwillpaytheway!! on Feb 8, 2011 9:10 AM EST reply actions  

I hope, for your sake, JTIII reads this.

Or it will be more “pain and suffering”. Actually, may be better if he doesn’t. It would be unfortunate to go into this game with any expectation of winning. That much worse of a let-down….

Buy Sean's book.

by AndyKinsella on Feb 8, 2011 9:10 AM EST reply actions  

Btw, "pain and suffering"

is JTIII’s own term for losing but I’m sure you already knew that.

Buy Sean's book.

by AndyKinsella on Feb 8, 2011 9:11 AM EST up reply actions  

thats a great story

puts lot of things in perspective

cuse still sucks

Good talk.
Casual Hoya

by Hire Esherick on Feb 8, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Here’s another story about it from our Wake Forest SBNation brethren

Casually.

by CasualHoya on Feb 8, 2011 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I had the pleasure of playing baseball with Tommy at Georgetown...

and he is just a great guy…. what an amazing story.

Go Hoyas, beat ’cuse….

by Gtowndude on Feb 8, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow, this news has been out for a couple hours

and the NCAA’s legion of shysters still haven’t stepped in to block it? I mean, I know it’s only a kidney, which is what, $30k, maybe $50k tops? We’re not talking Reggie Bush or Cam Newton levels of compensation here, but if getting to live isn’t considered an inappropriate benefit, then I’m not sure what the NCAA bylaws really mean anymore.

Needless to say, good on Tommy Walter, HOYA SAXA, Juice the Fruit!

by HoyaSmacksYa on Feb 8, 2011 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Jon Rothstein @ CBS Sports:

“I’m rolling the dice, I’m picking the Hoyas on the road.”

Difficulty: he’s making this bet because of… Nate Lubick’s recent performance.

"The enemy is like a woman, weak in face of opposition..." - St. Ignatius

by HoyaNinja on Feb 8, 2011 10:05 AM EST reply actions  

What's the line on the game?

If I was Vegas, I’d make it -4.5 Cuse

I feel soooo sad that you & your orange clad kinfolk can't get tickets to our home game.....

by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Feb 8, 2011 10:13 AM EST reply actions  

Idk

But I’d say the over/under on Chris Wright inexplicably driving into the zone, wildly out of control, and turning the ball over is in the low teens.

by Rocket Ship Science on Feb 8, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

brings up a good question

who has more turnovers – jardine or chris?

Good talk.
Casual Hoya

by Hire Esherick on Feb 8, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

It is going to be a long workday

I have both blogs open and the ESPN pages for both teams. Probably should have a Wiki tab as well as Google.

Love Rivalry Week.

Why so Syracuse?

by HoyaJoker07 on Feb 8, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Our best shot is to convince Scoop’s Uncle to bet against the Orange then his nephew will just hand us the game.

by hoyasincebirth on Feb 8, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

woah, I was dead on right. I should be a Vegas handicapper

I feel soooo sad that you & your orange clad kinfolk can't get tickets to our home game.....

by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Feb 8, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

How the Hoyas should crush the Orange LOL!

1. It’s starts out with the Chris Wright. Dribble the ball “extra low” so he could see the holes in the defense.
2. Shift the ball from side to side to move the zone.
3. Penetrate from angles of the zone defense, but you gotta be slick and have the courage to do so.
4. If there nothing inside at least you can kick it out because the point/guards have brought the perimeter defense inside some.
5. The offensive guards on the perimeter can either shoot the 3 ball or take one, two quick dribbles and knock down the shot. But you want to play this game as well as any games INSIDE, OUT!

On the defensive end…HAVE THE WILL TO WANT TO PLAY “DEFENSE” that’s what playing defense is all about, having the “WILL” to want to play “D”…To me defense is like getting up in the morning and cleaning your room up especially at that age. You have to have the will to so, because we don’t like getting up early in the morning cleaning our room, LOL! “THE WILL POWER!”

Of course box out, dive for loose balls, block shots, comminunicate/point communicate…all the little things add up to the big picture, I guess you could say it’s like life all the little things you do in life add up the big picture, Legoooooo! Hoya Saxa!

by Kent Adrian on Feb 8, 2011 10:30 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks for this post

More accurately, Benimon thanks you for this post, as it made me understand and appreciate his purpose a little more. I’m still drinking every time he messes up, but maybe I’ll cheers him every time he shows me that he is trying.

by BeerBottlesToTheFaceOfSyracuseFans on Feb 8, 2011 11:37 AM EST reply actions  

We actually do this with Scoop

It can lead to an extremely inebriated night…

by DutchHart on Feb 8, 2011 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Mildly off topic

But a good illustration of the character(s) of both teams. In response to getting sent to the bench-

(1) Hollis Thompson: “We’ve been winning, so how could I complain?” and “As long as it works for the team, it works for me”

(2) Dion Waiters: “Eff you coach”

by rochesterhoya07 on Feb 8, 2011 12:31 PM EST reply actions  

That's Kenny

Feared Patron of Golden Corral and quite possibly the recipient of a few drops on his head as a toddler… but 100% Orange all the time…

by kingtidge on Feb 8, 2011 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Patron of Golden Corral = the recipient of a few drops on his head as a toddler = 100% Orange all the time?

by AbeFroman99 on Feb 8, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I was confused as well

This might be the first incidence of coherent, internally consistent logic to be found in a SUcks fan’s argument.

by HoyaSmacksYa on Feb 8, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Honest question...

why aren’t more Cuse recruits scared off by the thought of spending their college careers developing the ability to guard Zone, i.e. a defense not used by any NBA teams? Or are they? I don’t know since i dont follow cuse recruiting.

Just seems like if I was trying for the NBA, I’d wonder why I should go someplace where I’ll be asked to waste an inordinate amount of time developing a useless skill.

I realize that a similar criticism might be levied against the Princeton offense, but the answer is, 1) the Princeton offense develops offensive skills that could actually be used on the next level, and 2) our recruiting is sometimes hurt

I feel soooo sad that you & your orange clad kinfolk can't get tickets to our home game.....

by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Feb 8, 2011 12:45 PM EST reply actions  

and 3)

Some NBA teams do use Princeton variants.

What are these assertions!?

by DHB Enterprises on Feb 8, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Most high school

kids thinking about the NBA have not yet had their first thought about defense yet. The one’s who have know that you can hide a lot of problems from the NBA sitting in a 2-3 zone.

by sleepyhoya on Feb 8, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Honest answer...

Does the NBA really even care about defense?

For the most part, they want scorers, not defenders….

You’d think the 30 ft of snowfall a year would scare more kids off than the zone….

They'll always be "The Orangemen" to me.....

by D_C on Feb 8, 2011 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

This isn't true

the NBA absolutely cares about defenders and you will get no time if you can’t stay in front of your man no matter how good a scorer you are. See, for example, Lance Stephenson.

by AnotherGtownJack on Feb 8, 2011 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

How many players are drafted specifically for their defense?

……And I am not being a smart ass (this time), I swear….

You can be taught to be a great defender in the pros if you have the athletic ability to stay in front of your man and learn the NBA game….M2M D in the pros is so much different than it is in college….

I don’t think kids jump leaps and bounds in college on their ability to play man to man….Again, I guess it’s a matter of opinion….Yours just happens to be wrong….. :)

And sure, do I think the 2-3 may scare some kids away? Absolutely…But the snow scares more of them….

They'll always be "The Orangemen" to me.....

by D_C on Feb 8, 2011 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

You have inside knowledge of recruit's mindsets?

How many recruits have told you personally that the snow scares them off, as opposed to the foetid swamp that D.C. is built on? You could probably make alot of money with that kind of insider knowledge.

Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange

by bigbluethruandthru on Feb 8, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

It isn't just about the draft, it's about succeeding in the NBA

a) they can’t be a defensive liability if they expect minutes and b) if they aren’t going to be a star teams won’t want to put the effort into teaching them defense. Now if a player is a great scorer or has a lot of potential teams will look past that when drafting them. So yeah, it isn’t like I expect cuse players to never get drafted. Those drafted because they’re superstars and those drafted because they have crazy potential are going to get drafted no matter where they go to school. For the kids who don’t fit those molds defense is crucial for a career as a role player in the NBA.

I don’t think it is a coincidence that Cuse players like Carmelo and Flynn are among the worst defenders in the NBA.

Who would you say is the best NBA defender Boeheim ever produced?

by AnotherGtownJack on Feb 9, 2011 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Honestly?

I watch maybe ten quarters of NBA basketball per season. I really only look at box scores to kind of keep track of favorite players, so the only players in the entire league I could name as good defenders are guys I hear about on Sportscenter or read on Simmons. I would assume Etan Thomas since he doesn’t put up big offensive numbers, yet has gotten multiple contracts.

Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange

by bigbluethruandthru on Feb 9, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

And yet

top ten recruiting classes in back to back years. Star recruits year in and year out. Maybe they want to play for a HoF coach in the best on- campus stadium in the country. And you do realize that zone defenses are legal now in the NBA? Food for thought.

Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange

by bigbluethruandthru on Feb 8, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Jayhawk Nation

Cameron Crazies and a myriad of others would probably disagree with the “best on-campus stadium in the country” claim. The carrier dome isn’t even a basketball stadium. It’s a football stadium with a curtain down the middle.

Who in the NBA plays a zone defense? Maybe for a few minutes but not as a practice.

by iheartgregmonroe on Feb 9, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Was going to make this point about the stadium as well.

So thank you! There are some serious delusions of gradeur among the Cuse faithful.

by HookerInTheLane on Feb 9, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

And yet

the drawing power is undeniable. Yeah Cameron and others are intense. But nobody else gets 30+ thousand to multiple games every year.

Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange

by bigbluethruandthru on Feb 9, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

because of where it is located

it is the only sporting draw within two hours in all directions.

Good talk.
Casual Hoya

by Hire Esherick on Feb 9, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

That's not true

Rochester has two professional farm teams, as well as three colleges with sports teams. Ithaca has four colleges with sports teams in the area, including D1 Cornell. But if you were to say the best and biggest sports draw within four hours drive (when the Bills aren’t playing) then you would be correct.

Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange

by bigbluethruandthru on Feb 9, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

really?

professional farms team? cornell, ithaca, le moyne?

was your response a joke?

Good talk.
Casual Hoya

by Hire Esherick on Feb 9, 2011 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

whoa whoa

Let’s not knock on the Rochester Red Wings and the Raging Rhinos. Rochester is after all self-named “Baseball and Soccer Town USA.” Although since baseball and soccer aren’t played in the winter, it’s pretty safe to say Cuse bball IS the only show in town/the region

by rochesterhoya07 on Feb 9, 2011 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't forget the Amerks and RIT hockey

Then again, I never go to hockey games & go to 3-5 SU bball games a year, so maybe I’m not a good example.

I just wanna tell you both good luck, and we're all counting on you.

by MrPlow99 on Feb 9, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Other schools could get 30,000 if they played in an arena that big moron. If Kansas or UNC played a game at their football stadium it would sell out.

by hoyasincebirth on Feb 9, 2011 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

the 2-3 is not legal. kinda different.

and zone is rarely used in the NBA. it’s mostly used to allow the big man closest to the basket to protect it better than they could in the past.

by thejerseytornado on Feb 9, 2011 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

A Graph?

Are you sure Georgetown fans understands graphs? You guys probably should remove it – all ten Hoya fans who visit this site are scratching their heads in unison….

They'll always be "The Orangemen" to me.....

by D_C on Feb 8, 2011 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

If you're going to call people dumb,

you should probably conjugate verbs correctly.

Why so Syracuse?

by HoyaJoker07 on Feb 8, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

OOOOOOOOOOOO SNAP

My handle used to be Jeff Green's Dad, but it was confusing and creepy, namely because I am not his dad. My new handle is JGD. I am trim and in charge.

by JGD on Feb 8, 2011 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Hard to blame him

Those Syracuse fans can’t get enough of their "S"es.

Why so Syracuse?

by HoyaJoker07 on Feb 8, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh Balls....

I hate when that happens…You change a sentence around a little and don’t check the little things….I didn’t attend Syracuse, does that get me any points back???

They'll always be "The Orangemen" to me.....

by D_C on Feb 8, 2011 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, man, happens to the best of us.

I’m all over this site with them.

Why so Syracuse?

by HoyaJoker07 on Feb 8, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

No points

At least one can understand why an alumnus of Syracuse cheers for their wretched school. If you’re just a townie, or whatever the SU student body derisively calls the local yokelry, then it’s just inexcusably sad.

by HoyaSmacksYa on Feb 8, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Confirmed

The local yokelry is refered to as “townies”

by Lord Humongous on Feb 8, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

"Townies" are for small towns....

Since Syracuse is a sprawling metropolis, this term doesn’t apply here….And honestly, I always used that term when visiting REALLY small college schools, like Clarkson, Georgetown, Plattsburg, etc…..

Do I get any points for being smart enough to leave that dreary town….er….metropolis…. since I now live in ATL? Is that better?

They'll always be "The Orangemen" to me.....

by D_C on Feb 8, 2011 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

They don't live in a city, or a state for that matter.

They have no room to talk about townies.

Born in '87, Orange fan since '86

by StealthTurkey on Feb 8, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Point of view from Syracuse Alum

As a Syracuse alum and fan, what concerns me is that the winner of the game will depend more on how well Georgetown plays, not Syracuse. As active as the 2-3 zone is ( and make no mistake, it is not what is was last year), Georgetown will get good looks. If they are shooting well ( like Villanova and Seton Hall did), they will win. If not, Syracuse will likely win. The Orange, not having to worry about Greg Monroe, will probably extend the zone and dare the Hoyas to beat them from the inside.

The writer is correct that the Cuse does not have a real go to scorer. Even Kris Josephs is inconsistent. They do not have an elite point guard which will most likely be their undoing in the Big Dance. What they do have are seven guys ( not including the two centers) who can score on any given night. None is a great player, tho Rick Jackson is having an all Big east season. Boeheim has done a good job of shuffling players during a game until he has the best 5 who are hot that particular night.

Nevertheless, I think Georgetown has the game on their racquet. If their shooters are hot, the Cuse will be helpless since they hardley ever go to a man-to-man and when they do, they are not particularly effective. Dangerous for fan, when the other team dictates the result.

by Paul Danziger on Feb 8, 2011 4:31 PM EST reply actions  

you are wise

you sure you went to Cuse?

Casually.

by CasualHoya on Feb 8, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow...pretty insightful

But I still hate you…nothing personal though

by VictorPage'sLeftEye on Feb 8, 2011 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

The Syracuse zone

is designed to give opponents the long three. Not the comfortable catch and release of their choosing, but shots that are pushed out further than normal. Yes, this leaves cuts and the free throw line theoretically open, but that’s when length comes into play to get into passing lanes. If a team makes long threes, they generally win. Consistently making the three will pull defenders out of the passing lanes, by forcing them to charge faster to the shot, leaving the kickout to the corner or the top of the key. Can Freeman and Clark (and occasionally Thompson) make those shots? Absolutely. That is the key. But if they shoot 35% or lower, ’Cuse will run off the misses.

Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange

by bigbluethruandthru on Feb 8, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Insightful analysis from a Cuse fan

Huge improvement over endless photoshopped pictures. GET THIS MAN A BLOG

by rochesterhoya07 on Feb 8, 2011 6:02 PM EST reply actions  

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