Point Shaving Scandal At Syracuse? Say It Ain't So!
by CasualHoya on Feb 1, 2011 10:48 PM EST
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PrintThe last thing we want to do here at THE GLOBAL PHENOMENON is spread rumors and be a source of rampant speculation, but sometimes the steak is just too juicy. According to the eminently reliable website PocketFives.com (registration now required), the word out of Syracuse, New York is that three (count 'em THREE) current Syracuse men's basketball players are being accused of point shaving!
YAY! More Cuse friends might be joining me!
According to the site:
More than a handful of people I know were telling me earlier today that two Syracuse University basketball players, Scoop Jardine and Dion Waiters, as well as a possible third (James Southerland) are being accused of point shaving. This is really pretty shocking to me if it turns out to be true, and I can't imagine how Jim Boeheim is gonna react. The benching of Waiters and Southerland was extremely suspicious, especially given according to Boeheim they were not benched for disciplinary reasons.
More on 'Cuse scandal after The Jump:
According to our best blog friends at Troy Nunes is An Absolute Magician (thread now deleted), the rumor is that Scoop Jardine's uncle bet on the Orange's first game against Seton Hall this season, a game in which the Orange won by 5 points (Cuse was favored by 7.5). Syracuse has lost 4 in a row both straight up and against the spread, and earlier this season lost 5 in a row against the spread. Interestingly, Syracuse is 18-4 on the season but only 7-13 against the spread, numbers which may or not mean anything. A full round up of Syracuse's performance this season and the point spreads is HERE.
While it is certainly difficult to imagine this rumor being true, it is odd that there are so many details surrounding it. Indeed, as one Cuse fan points out:
This rumor can't be true. It just can't be.
Right?
UPDATE: Everyone is recanting the story, by either limiting access to websites or deleting posts/tweets all together. The rumors are false and this "story" is turning into a study on how desperate people have become to account for Syracuse's recent collapse.
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this is interesting...
Lets examine
Syracuse – Seton Hall, First Game – Spread is -7.5, Seton Hall beats the spread. Syracuse fails to cover the spread with 6 minutes left to play, don’t score for 3 minutes, letting Seton Hall come back into the game and beat it.
Syracuse – Marquette. Spread is -2.5 for Marquette. Syracuse is tied late in the game by Kris Joseph. CJ Fair brings it to within 4 points. For the remainder of the game (about a 50 seconds only Scoop takes shots, all of them ill advised or rushed, which basically insures that Marquette covers.
Syracuse – Detroit. Spread is -17.0. Syracuse leads by 14 points with 4 minutes to go. Get outscored 9-6 down the stretch to insure the cover. Scoop fouls, turns the ball over, and misses a free throw in that time that help lead to Detroit beating the spread.
Syracuse – Michigan. Spread is -6.5. Syracuse doesn’t cover at the end after almost beating the spread. Kris and Scoop both have opportunities to make the lead 6 points at the line, both make one and one to keep the lead at a slim 5. Baye can beat the spread at the end by making both, misses both with game and Michigan beats the spread.
Syracuse – NC State. Spread is -12.0. NC State beats it after Syracuse squanders a first half lead.
Syracuse – Iona. Spread is -14.5. Syracuse is covering with 5 minutes to go until they let Iona beat them 16-7 down the stretch to beat the spread.
Syracuse – Providence. Spread is -13.0. Syracuse covers for a good portion of the game, including towards the end of the 2nd half, until Providence roars back and beats the spread.
Doesn’t seem really concrete here, nothing that outwardly screams Point Shaving. But to be fair I only looked at when Syracuse let teams beat the spread or cover against them. Not Syracuse playing for covers.
by NickBloomfield on Feb 1, 2011 2:01 PM EST reply actions
Casually.
he took it down
interesting…
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Feb 1, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
The
Troy Nunes thread is 404 ing now too
"If Austin Freeman gets a pick at the hotel across the street, you go with him"
And me, If he asks I'll carry his luggage.
by PerryMcDonald'sRightCross on Feb 1, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
he deleted it too
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Feb 1, 2011 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
Poop Jardine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Shackleford
The new Chuck Shackleford……(for the older guys out there)!
Yikes.
I may hat the ,Cuse, and JB is a whinger. But point shaving on his watch? He’ll kill somebody for that.
"If Austin Freeman gets a pick at the hotel across the street, you go with him"
And me, If he asks I'll carry his luggage.
by PerryMcDonald'sRightCross on Feb 1, 2011 10:57 PM EST reply actions
#Cmonson
Lol… This is bs… As much as I don’t like Syracuse I have a hard time believing this and think it’s wrong to villainize a bunch of 18-22 year old kids without clear evidence of wrongdoing. Syracuse isn’t point shaving, their just playing like doo doo
scoop spending the night defending himself
instead of dreaming about being dominated by kemba tomorrow
http://twitter.com/#!/PhillyFlash11
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Feb 1, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
the kid shouldn't have to put up with this stuff
boeheim is going to have to say something about this rumor
Casually.
Yeah
True or false, heads are going to roll. And we all better hope it’s false.
"If Austin Freeman gets a pick at the hotel across the street, you go with him"
And me, If he asks I'll carry his luggage.
by PerryMcDonald'sRightCross on Feb 1, 2011 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
that pocketfive website that broke it
is now requiring a log in to see the story.
they likely consulted their lawyers
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Feb 1, 2011 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
I just don't think this is believable
And it’s incredibly damning and fucked up if it turns out to be untrue. I’m not sure who Scoop Jardine slept with amongst Cuse fans and media members, but they really, really hate him.
My handle used to be Jeff Green's Dad, but it was confusing and creepy, namely because I am not his dad. My new handle is JGD. I am trim and in charge.
Cuse fans seem to be aggressively spreading this
Kind of like how Nova fans were aggressively promoting the Scotty’s gf getting knocked up one last year
yeah, totally classless by Cuse fans to spread this
I probably need a new handle, but I'm too lazy to think of one
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Feb 1, 2011 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
True or not
Great rumor
Very enjoyable past hour envisioning hilarious outcomes if it were true
It would not be hilarious.
It would tarnish the conference and every GU/SU game with lingering shadows of dishonesty. We want our victories, and god forbid, our losses to be the outcomes of honest competition
"If Austin Freeman gets a pick at the hotel across the street, you go with him"
And me, If he asks I'll carry his luggage.
by PerryMcDonald'sRightCross on Feb 1, 2011 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Some of the outcomes would be not hilarious
Others would be
i have no idea
if this is true, BUT, scoop and joseph both went to h.s. in South Philly which is home of the Philly mob.
thats the first thing that came to my mind.
Hank went to school in Baltimore
that doesn’t mean he’s helping Marlo take over the east side.
High fives only on three pointers.
by TheYellofAllYells on Feb 1, 2011 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ha i just rewatched the first episodes of season 3
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Feb 1, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
i hope its not true
and i don’t assume it is. but just wanted to throw out since i know the blocks they grew up on well. they are withing 10 blocks of the don of the philly mob, and that crew LOVES to run numbers.
its obviously not damning evidence. but its still true
I am amazed
That the SU boards can recall the BC, Arizona State, NC State, and CCNY scandals and forget Tulane’s double dip into these waters.
I doubt it’s true. And I hope it is not true, for the good of the Big East.
"If Austin Freeman gets a pick at the hotel across the street, you go with him"
And me, If he asks I'll carry his luggage.
by PerryMcDonald'sRightCross on Feb 1, 2011 11:14 PM EST reply actions
agree
i want cuse to get negative attention because it loses 4 straight. not because of this crap.
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Feb 1, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
True or not
Could make for some good student section signs at the 2/26 showdown in DC. Perhaps an one last encore rival reel?
Just a simple sign that reads.
Georgetown +/- X (with x being whatever the spread is) In huge blue letters.
by WallaceAtTheLineShooting2 on Feb 1, 2011 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
Hahahaha
Okay, that’s actually hilarious. Consider this an exception to my comment.
by AnotherGtownJack on Feb 1, 2011 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
Ehh
I don’t know, I feel like the accusation is a bit too serious to use it to jeer players. It’s not definitely true- like Devendorf hitting a woman or hilariously embarrassing but unsubstantiated- like Corey Fisher getting Scottie’s gf pregnant. Accusing SU players of point shaving with signs seems a little classless. The Orange are embarrassing enough that we shouldn’t have to use this kind of slander to get into their heads.
Something that didn’t suggest it was true like “Scoop Jardin: So bad you think he’s throwing the game” would work, I guess.
by AnotherGtownJack on Feb 1, 2011 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
agree with this
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Feb 1, 2011 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
totally agree
truth fair game, not bs
... straight for a touchdown... I mean Rebound
by glackensghost on Feb 2, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
Agree
As much as I hate and despise ‘cuse, no reason to throw a team / players under the bus for a bad slide of losing games due to an ALLEGED rumour propogated via the internet. I ask you…what if the shoe were on the other foot? We would be outraged as well and if it isn’t true (which i very very much hope is the case), it is a terrible thing for those youngsters to have to go through – remember these are young men playing college ball. This goes beyond ’cuse hatred, i just feel bad for those kids
The difference between depression and anger is effort
I'd prefer this not be true - that Cuse was actually just losing
As other people have said, this is a rumor that immediately has legs because there is a vast sea of despondent Orange fans…who are desperate for an alternative explanation for getting blown out by Seton Hall
Could be ’Cuse is losing because they spent all of November and December at home playing cupcakes. Real opponents play real basketball. A scandal would be tragic, but I certainly need to see a whole lot more evidence before I believe a word of it.
I'm not going to try and deny that this is a bad stretch
four games in a row is four games in a row. But if this statement is true
Could be ’Cuse is losing because they spent all of November and December at home playing cupcakeswhat was the excuse for your 3 game losing streak?
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Feb 2, 2011 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Simple
We lost to very good (at MSG) St. John’s on a last second play, we looked ahead to Pitt and lost to WVU, and then we lost to the best team in the conference in Pitt.
The only really unacceptable loss in that time period was WVU and none were laughers at home to inferior teams.
by mchoya on Feb 2, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
'Cuse's losses can be explained away the same
We lost to one of the best regular season teams at their place. Another loss to a good Nova team. The Seton Hall game was miserable, but they were unconscious. Show me a team that wouldn’t be down big when the opponent is shooting 70% from 3 for an entire half. The Marquette game came down to two contested 3’s that went in (and a 19 FT difference in a 6 pt game. But yeah, refs don’t affect the outcomes of games.) Rather than making grandiose statements about one team’s pre conference schedule over the other, maybe a better point would be that in the Big East you can get hot, and you can get cold, and go to either extreme very quickly.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Feb 2, 2011 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
Why the sudden urge to be rationale?!?!
The reason both teams went on losing streaks was their defense. Cuse’s perimeter defense in particular is why they suck right now. Seton Hall’s 70% might have been luck but opposing teams have been shooting close to 50% from beyond the arc the last four games.
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Feb 2, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
maybe a better point would be that in the Big East you can get hot, and you can get cold, and go to either extreme very quickly.
Sure, but the best point is that you can hide a teams lack of skill with a cupcake out of conference schedule when you play every game at home.
We came out of our slump with the longest currently active streak in the Big East— you guys are still free falling. Let’s talk when (if!) you bounce.
Every game at home
so, so tired. Georgetown needs to beef up it’s geography courseload. I live about an hour from the ’Cuse campus. With the distance it would take me to drive to either NYC or Atlantic City I could drive to six or seven different states. But no, Atlantic City is practically a suburb of Syracuse. In fact, I think the Taj Mahal is just another name for Turning Stone.
Your First Ever Pinstripe Bowl Champions- The Syracuse Orange
by bigbluethruandthru on Feb 2, 2011 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
Still a cupcake schedule
Even if we grant you that point, Cuse played 3 OOC games away from home, ALL of them on neutral courts in NYC/AC. No true road games.
Georgetown, on the other hand, played 7 games away from the Verizon Center. 3 were part of the Charleston Classic. One game versus Missouri in Kansas City which is considered “neutral.” The other three were true road games, @ Temple, Memphis, and Old Dominion, all difficult places to play.
This is the scary part of the internet
HORSESHIT rumors get started, and then the sources get to hide from them with no repercussions. Yet, Scoop Jardine spent the better part of his night denying this rumor instead of focusing on his away date at UConn tomorrow.
My handle used to be Jeff Green's Dad, but it was confusing and creepy, namely because I am not his dad. My new handle is JGD. I am trim and in charge.
u think uconn fans are smart enough to start this nonsense
the night before their game with cuse?
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
The internet is terrifying
My handle used to be Jeff Green's Dad, but it was confusing and creepy, namely because I am not his dad. My new handle is JGD. I am trim and in charge.
Agreed.
Egypt is years ahead of us on this issue.
by StPetersburgHoya on Feb 2, 2011 9:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't be confident
it has the intended effect. More likely to light a fire under Jardin.
by AnotherGtownJack on Feb 2, 2011 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Speaking of UConn fans
Shouldn’t there be another Big East blog poll at some point soon?
What are these assertions!?
by DHB Enterprises on Feb 2, 2011 1:03 AM EST up reply actions
might be time to take this down
if everyone is backing away
we have nothing to hide
I hate this 1984, ‘it never happened’ stuff. And its not like google didnt archive it…
seriously
has no one on this blog seen animal house?!?
it should be mandatory viewing when you register.
instead of all that privacy agreement crap that nobody ever reads.
What the fuck happened to the Casualties I used to know?
Where’s the spirit? Where’s the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you’re gonna let it be the worst.
Take No Prisoners, especially if they wear Orange.
by hoyabballownsall on Feb 2, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
"Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Casual, we might get in trouble."
Well, just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I’m not gonna take this! Boeheim, he’s a dead man! Joseph, dead! Jackson…
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Glad to see most are staying reasonable
You know that at first breath of something like this happening (Ewing forbid) at Georgetown, every orange-wearing moron with a computer would be all over the place crying “scandal” as if it were a proven fact. Could this blog do that just to agitate? Sure, but the view is better from the high road.
I think it’s fun to jab so long as everyone keeps in mind that it (currently) is an unsubstantiated rumor.
I think we all know in our hearts
that we dont need a scandal to crush the orange. I want them to give us all they have (all they ever will be) and lose.
Fun related note:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=6079103
Syracuse (19). High of 7, low of unranked. AP: 17. Minutes comment: Whoever has the Orange at No. 7, put down the hallucinogens.
Yeah
This would only make our wins against them questionable while our losses would mean they took the night off from cheating and actually beat us. No thank you.
Why so Syracuse?
i loved this comment
St. John’s 93, Duke 78 (5). The Blue Devils’ worst loss in the past 15 years to an unranked opponent was not as close as the score indicates. It’s dangerous to extrapolate too much from a single game, but if the 11th-place team in the Big East can destroy the leader of the Atlantic Coast Conference, the selection committee might consider sending several potential Big Dance bids from the ACC to the middle of the Big East pack. “They’re fighting for an NCAA tournament bid,” a disgusted Mike Krzyzewski said in his postgame radio interview. “We didn’t fight for anything today.”
The BEast has dominated out of conf compedition. Still the Dook-fix is always in and those Dookies will get a #1 or #2 in the Tourney
... straight for a touchdown... I mean Rebound
by glackensghost on Feb 2, 2011 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
and this
Bracketologist Joe Lunardi will still have double-figure representation from the league in his field of (gag) 68. The rest of the nation will be howling at the Obvious East Coast Bias.
... straight for a touchdown... I mean Rebound
by glackensghost on Feb 2, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
There are already so many legitimate reasons to mock and/or hate them.
Seems like we know better than to take it seriously, and would prefer to beat them to a pulp in a clean fight. Our reaction to this “scandal” simply brings to light one more reason we’re better than they are.
Uh
What is point shaving?
You deserve a Roy Hibbert elbow to the face.
by GeorgetownHoyette on Feb 2, 2011 12:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
wiki
In organized sports, point shaving is a type of match fixing where the perpetrators try to prevent a team from covering a published point spread. Unlike other forms of match fixing, sports betting invariably motivates point shaving. A point shaving scheme generally involves a sports gambler and one or more players of the sports team favored to win the game. In exchange for a bribe, the player or players agree to ensure that their team will not “cover the point spread”. The gambler then wagers against that team.
Casually.
more:
Basketball is a particularly easy medium for shaving points because of the scoring tempo of the game and the ease by which one player can influence key events. By deliberately missing shots or committing well-timed turnovers or fouls, a corrupt player can covertly ensure that his team fails to cover the point spread, without causing them to lose the game (or to lose so badly that suspicions are aroused).
Casually.
Anyone know what tonight's line on the Syracuse-UConn game is?
Want to put my money on Scoop keeping it under the spread.
-3, Uconvicts favored
I probably need a new handle, but I'm too lazy to think of one
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Feb 2, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
The Bottom Line
UConn -3 tonight is free money, right?
The Bottom Line
is that cuse sucks either way, point shaving or not.
It’s not like the line @ the dome was Seton Hall -19.5.
by WallaceAtTheLineShooting2 on Feb 2, 2011 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
as much as I hate Cuse and agree they suck
the reports are that they are going to come out really fired up for this game. Their problem has been they’ve been lazy on defense- that’s sure to be fixed with the level of energy they’re going to put up for this one. On top of that Kemba hasn’t been playing all that well lately….
I would take Cuse and the points if I was betting this one.
I probably need a new handle, but I'm too lazy to think of one
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Feb 2, 2011 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
disagree
If this was at home, I would be see your side. But UCONN is a top tier Big East team that is coming off a close loss at Louisville. They need this one.
true both teams need this one.....
we shall see…
I probably need a new handle, but I'm too lazy to think of one
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Feb 2, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
I hope it feels good...
to spend the day slandering 3 college kids and perpetuating unsubstantiated rumors that could have a real and negative impact on their lives. Spirited rivalries and a healthy back and forth between fans is fun. This is despicable. Some of you have insinuated that 3 college student athletes are criminals. In doing so, you have made a statement about your own character and integrity. I applaud the handful of Georgetown fans who have made similar objections to the very existence of this thread.
The Sun Never Sets On The Orange Empire
There was a thread on the Cuse blog...
The majority of comments have not been positive should it be true and those that were usually got a response of “Dude, not cool.”
What exactly are you taking issue with? It was a story. This is a basketball blog. And the only thing the post says is that they’re being accused of it…which is true or else there wouldn’t be a story.
Also, “The Sun Never Sets On The Orange Empire”? Is that about a large alumni base or the fact that your campus shares daylight hours with Alaska? I’m just curious.
Why so Syracuse?
Th spread on this post
Is cusetroll -3.5 (-200)
by WallaceAtTheLineShooting2 on Feb 2, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Um
I hope it feels good…to spend the day slandering 3 college kids
Not to get pedantic, but actually this would be libel, because it’s been printed. But since it is journalistic reporting on an actual story, and presented properly (i.e. they are not said to have been point-shaving, merely that suspicion has cented on the players mentioned), it doesn’t even rise to that level.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Pardon me for not recognizing this blog as anything remotely resembling journalism. I would be surprised if the person running Casual Hoya considers himself a member of the media. Since it is instead a message board with comments and opinions, I’m going to say that slander certainly applies. Furthermore, the mere existence of a rumor does not mean that a “story” exists. If I started a rumor, let’s say, that you cheated on your taxes, you certainly wouldn’t agree that the mere existence of said false rumor justifies commentary that could be potentially harmful. Even balanced or fair representation of the rumor in and of itself could be damaging to you. It was a decent effort on your behalf though. I’ll give you partial credit.
The Sun Never Sets On The Orange Empire
Give me a break
Have you written the same message on every single message board and blog that said there is a rumor out there about the Cuse basketball team, including the six posts on Nunes that make reference to it?
Go find another place to whine about nothing.
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Feb 2, 2011 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
Slander is SPOKEN
libel is written. Leave the “big” concepts to those of us who have more than a mail-order education.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
You say this as fact, as if there isn’t reasonable conversation about how slander/libel/defamation is defined as it pertains to electronic communication, blogs, and social networking. As it happens, Syracuse University does not offer mail-order programs either. You are showing yourself to be misinformed on many levels.
The Sun Never Sets On The Orange Empire
It's hard to take anything you say seriously...
…when last week you were creating multiple usernames to argue with yourself on the Cuse Ticket Whining post.
Start your crusade to rid the internet of rumors on the Cuse blogs. That is where this whole debacle began with your own fan base so passionately propagating the rumor.
People on this blog have emphatically stated the rumor is false, showed sympathy for Scoop having to defend himself against ridiculous accusations by his own fans, and hoped nothing like this would happen to any team, let alone our biggest rival.
Not sure what else you want, seems to me you are just trying to fight with people – kinda like what you did last week.
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Feb 2, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
I am SO glad you posted this
Or I would have never gone back and read that thread.
“You Mess With The Bull, YOU GET THE HORNS!”
Why so Syracuse?
@orangeman77
You stink and you’re an embarrassment. Quit it.
I’ve worked my ass off to have fun with this rivalry. Stop wearing clownshoes and play the game the way it’s supposed to be played.
by Hoya Suxa on Feb 2, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Let me try and do this...
You…R-….You R-….Ro-…Roc-…sigh…YOU ARE FUN TO ARGUE WITH!
Also, your wagers are epic.
Why so Syracuse?
There is quite simply nothing on the internets
To compare with this upside. I look forward to Casual atoning similarly when Scoop Jardine’s good name is cleared.
Hat’s off to Suxa for this one.
by itsallthatmatters on Feb 2, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
please
Let this dickblossom make a fool of himself. At this point, he is the angry dude in the train station with a mason jar full of piss. People walk by and shake their head.
Blip
by JahidiLikesPie on Feb 2, 2011 7:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
enjoy
Your argument with the water fountain, lil’ buddy!
Blip
by JahidiLikesPie on Feb 2, 2011 7:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Suxa so much more reasonable than some other 'Cuse fans
Can we do SWTE with him, or do SB overlords require it to be with Nunes?
What are these assertions!?
by DHB Enterprises on Feb 2, 2011 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
nunes good guy as well
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Feb 2, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
After careful consideration...
I’ve decided to remain the only voice of reason on this blog. Given my recent promotion at KFC I now have more time to spend online, so you all will be hearing a lot more of me. At the risk of bragging, you might now call me a captain of industry. Suxa, we’ll have to agree to disagree. By the way, people still read this blog?
The Sun Never Sets On The Orange Empire
and unless I've missed something...
Scoop Jardine is a criminal?
"Before the answer was a 3, I was down in Georgetown with a Hoya chick, lawyer chick....."
by brandonbowmansfootistoobig on Feb 3, 2011 9:04 AM EST up reply actions
best thing to come of this: 'cuse troll learned to reply
I also rec’d his first reply just to leave some positive reinforcement. Instead, I posted this.
GREAT JOB, GUY!
by thejerseytornado on Feb 2, 2011 7:00 PM EST reply actions
by also, I meant almost.
I blame the cognitive dissonance created by praising a ’cuse troll.
by thejerseytornado on Feb 2, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
Did anyone see Southerland's wide open 3?
Holy Crap I’ve never seen someone miss an open 3 that badly. There might just be something to this point shaving thing lol.
My bad/ apology
You guys for the most part were much better than I gave you credit for in my fan post. With a number of you here all but completely dismissing the rumor. I deleted my fanpost and sorry for the harsh post earlier.
by CapitalOrange on Feb 3, 2011 9:40 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
all good
we all agree (some outliers on either side of the rivalry) that this shit is not good for anyone and belongs in the SEC
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Feb 3, 2011 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
Yay we are all friends
Now let’s get back to the rivalry. Cuse sucks!
Take No Prisoners, especially if they wear Orange.
by hoyabballownsall on Feb 3, 2011 10:19 AM EST reply actions
Go back to Smithpoint & Third Edition
Actually wait a second, that is a little harsh. I wouldn’t want to force anyone to have to hang out @ Third edition. That place sucks ass.
That was horseshit at its horseshittery finest.
Anyone who couldn’t tell that Casual’s tongue was planted firmly in his cheek on this one apparently missed the pictures of prisoners with “SYRACUSE” emblazoned on their oranges.
I’m not smart enough to look at the other stuff and do anything but drool and mumble.
people still watch that show?
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Feb 3, 2011 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
yes
Blackstone points out people should actually do some research into it.
by hoyasincebirth on Feb 3, 2011 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
people still watch that show?
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Feb 3, 2011 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
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I would love to doubt this as well.
It started out as a rumor at work and a few on my colleagues checked with some of their friends with ties to cuse basketball. This has apparently been all over Facebook as well as circulating within circles of cuse fans and supporters. Like I said it seems to be a rumor but it is very interesting that a rumor surrounding point shaving would pop up without some sort of details. Especially with how many people have heard this rumor up to this point today.
by Cusekid31 on Feb 1, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions