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The Delusion Train Keeps On Chugging: Georgetown Defeats Louisville 71-68

LOUISVILLE, KY - DECEMBER 28:  Jason Clark #21 of the Georgetown Hoyas shoots the ball during the Big East conference game against the Louisville Cardinals at KFC YUM! Center on December 28, 2011 in Louisville, Kentucky.  (Photo by Andy Lyons/Getty Images)

THAT JUST HAPPENED. Georgetown beat Louisville 71-68, defeating Louisville for the first time this season on the back of sophomore Markel Starks' 20 points. The Cardinals had only lost 2 games on their home court since opening up the stadium two years ago. Freshman Otto Porter added 14 points and 14 rebounds in one of the most complete individual performances in the John Thompson III era.

The young Hoyas continue to outperform expectations. For much of the first half there were three to four freshmen on the floor keeping the game in range. Jabril Trawick was phenomenal tonight. The Philly product added 9 points off the bench, while fellow freshmen Greg Whittington and Mikael Hopkins played crucial minutes.

More thoughts after The Jump,

Star-divide

Tonight's game, in many ways, marks a new era in John Thompson III's Georgetown career. In previous years, there wasn't enough depth and production to bench starters when they played poorly. Yet, this year, we have 4 eager freshmen itching to get off the bench to prove their worth. When Henry Sims, Jason Clark, and Nate Lubick weren't providing the energy necessary to beat an undefeated Louisville squad at home, there were freshmen ready to jump into the fray. Last year, this wouldn't have happened. Previous teams weren't built for lulls in energy by starters. Those teams ran 6 deep and lived and died by those 6 players. This year's team is different. This year's team has 10 talented basketball players, and JT3 is ready to play all 10 players at any time.

That said, we should focus on how great Markel Starks was tonight. Outside of the 20 points and the crucial three pointers, Starks was PHENOMENAL against Louisville's pressure. He controlled their press and got into offensive sets in ways that only Chris Wright has done before him. Only a sophomore, Starks has shown a propensity for big shots, but even more important, a composure in big games that is well beyond his years.

The freshmen challenged the starters to do better tonight, and the starters responded by closing out the game. Henry Sims has seen better days, yet there he was knocking down crucial layups and free throws to seal the victory. Jason Clark and Hollis Thompson provided leadership and important buckets in crunch time as well. Yet, the story of the night was Otto Porter. The small town kid from Missouri grabbed every rebound, including an enormous tip-in when the game was tied at 63, on the heels of an 11-0 Louisville run. The poise that he, Whittington, Trawick, and Hopkins showed tonight in the face of an undefeated Louisville team at home should make Hoya fans positively giddy about what the future holds.

After tonight, the sky is the limit for the future of this team. At this point, nothing will shock me. Let's just enjoy the ride as we watch this young Georgetown team continue to outperform expectations and take the Big East by storm.

Providence is next.

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Very proud of our boys

I will look on your treasures, gypsy. Is this understood?

by Lord Humongous on Dec 29, 2011 12:03 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Hoya F'in Saxa!!

Can’t wait to get back to the Phone Booth on Saturday and cheer on our Hoyas.

Looking for Thunder-based transportation?

by jwallobjects on Dec 29, 2011 12:06 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

Hoyas up 11 with 4 minutes left and L'ville has 2 team fouls

Pitino (rightly) calls an all-out assault. Almost worked. Team played with rare poise and toughness.

Otto Porter is everyone’s next big thing.

by WarmupEwing on Dec 29, 2011 12:12 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

after taking on the People's Liberation Army

these boys can handle Pitino’s Louisville Assault.

Hammer of the Cuse

by SirHoya on Dec 29, 2011 7:14 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

pitino is a good coach

and the team has talent

big, big win

Cuse delenda est

by onceahoya on Dec 29, 2011 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Really like these recaps, JGD

But then, I really like everything outside of Syracuse after that win.

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Dec 29, 2011 12:18 AM EST reply actions  

Beat a top five team on the road

Clark was 2-8 with 7 points
Hank was 2-8 with 7 points

Goddamn, what a performance from Starks and Otto

Having different guys who can step up on a given night is pretty awesome

by njhoya06 on Dec 29, 2011 1:16 AM EST reply actions  

Even sweeter

That’s been Louisville’s signature thus far this year. I don’t know if we’ll face another team in league play that is as balanced offensively as they are. I know it was an ugly sloppy game but I don’t think we’re giving our defense enough credit for containing the Cards last night.

by HoyaSmacksYa on Dec 29, 2011 8:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Ever heard of

Syracuse? Their top scorer put up a goose-egg last night and they cruised to a 26 point W….

by Quint Stevenson on Dec 29, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

WOW

THAT’S AMAZING!!!!

by JGD on Dec 29, 2011 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

is it a shithole dump of a school in upstate NY with nothing going for it

but a basketball team that is about to leave the best basketball conference in the nation and just fired a child molester that Boeheim stood up for?

If so, then yes, yes we’ve heard of it. If no, please tell us more…

by thejerseytornado on Dec 29, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

don't tell him

how ‘Siracusa’ ended up…

Cuse delenda est

by onceahoya on Dec 29, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

HOLY CRAP

You beat Seton Hall! At Home! That is way more impressive than beating the Cards on the Road. Although, you’re right, NC State was enough of a road test, why leave the Carrier Dome ever again?

by genetichoya on Dec 29, 2011 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Was referring to

this stupid sentence: “I don’t know if we’ll face another team in league play that is as balanced offensively as they are.”

I do. You will; Syracuse.

by Quint Stevenson on Dec 29, 2011 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Syracuse

is way more offensive than Louisville.

New sig tba

by PerryMcDonald'sRightCross on Dec 29, 2011 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

And based on the evidence of their fanbase

I’d surmise that they’re all rather unbalanced as well.

by HoyaSmacksYa on Dec 30, 2011 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

6 hours ahead

Nothing better than waking up to a JGD recap after a Gtown win

by Kim Frank's sweater on Dec 29, 2011 2:22 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

It's been a long time

Since we had a young team that was progressing each game. One of the awesome things about this game was I got the feeling that a number of our players (Hank, Jason, Nate) didn’t play up to their potential. I also got the feeling that several others were just scratching the surface of what they can do. We beat a Top 5 team on the road and didn’t have our best game. I am not nervous; I am just going to enjoy the growth between each game.

We will learn a lot about what we can expect this season if the team comes out and destroys Providence. That is what we did from 06-08; it will be an interesting comparison.

by StPetersburgHoya on Dec 29, 2011 8:05 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

I get the feeling

Our wins are going to continue to get discredited. Already hearing stuff on the television and intranet about how this proves Louisville isn’t that good.

I like staying under the radar, even as we ascend into the top 10, will keep us hungry.

by JGD on Dec 29, 2011 8:54 AM EST reply actions  

Agree

Saw Jeff Goodman tweet that he still doesn’t know if we’re for real or not, pretty sure it was post-win.

Two things about that:
A) The implication of doubts like these is that these wins don’t mean we can beat “really good” teams. But who would those teams be? At the top, everyone but Cuse and Baylor have shown they can lose, and Baylor came close last night. Do I want to play Cuse yet? Not quite, but my point is, every team’s going to have weaknesses to capitalize on (Memphis’s lack of control, Louisville’s perimeter D)…why do those get turned into reasons we aren’t as good as we look?
B) Why is the story At All about us not being as good as we look when we are at this particular point FAR beyond pre-season expectation?

Why so Syracuse?

by HoyaJoker07 on Dec 29, 2011 9:23 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

because we didnt start out ranked

even if we make the championship game, it will be about how much of a ‘surprise’ it is that the hoyas put together a good team. just the narrative thats being selected…

Cuse delenda est

by onceahoya on Dec 29, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm fine with the "surprise" part

Hell, I’m surprised.

But to question each team we beat after we beat them would seem opposed to that narrative. My part B was meant to say I don’t think they’re pushing the narrative you mentioned ENOUGH.

Why so Syracuse?

by HoyaJoker07 on Dec 29, 2011 9:46 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Agree with this

Pisses me off a bit, seems like pretty open disrespect. “Yeah, the Hoyas won, but they’re not that good of a team, so it must be that the highly ranked team they beat wasn’t actually as good as advertised.” Complete BS.

But hey, I feel like that’s the kind of thing this team will respond well to and it’ll help keep that chip on their collective shoulder.

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Dec 29, 2011 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Sports journalism is all about the damn narrative

Looking forward to the “return to traditional georgetown aggressive defense” storyline that is brewing.

by tjm62 on Dec 29, 2011 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Traditional Georgetown Aggressive Defense is a bad narrative

We want Traditional Georgetown Aggressive Defense “with Finesse!”

Have you noticed how often this year the pundits describe our offense style as being “Princeton-inspired” or “with Princeton characteristics” and the like? The legitimate ones NEVER say that we run a Princeton O now. Somebody (JT3? Mex Carey?) did some serious bodywork on these guys to re-write that narrative.

by HoyaSmacksYa on Dec 29, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

The "nobody believes in us" thing is a great motivator

Teams even make it up when it doesn’t apply – but I think it certainly fits with these Hoyas and what they’ve been through to this point.

As for fans vs. journalists and their stupid perspectives, I think any school that isn’t Duke, UNC, Kentucky, Kansas, or Big-10 Flavor of the Week, is always going to have a dedicated group of doubters no matter how well they play. I hate to draw the parallel, but a majority of sportswriters were harping endlessly about Syracuse’s schedule as a reason why Ohio State was better, which is not only wrong, but it’s illogical as well. It comes with the territory.

This team has the right attitude about approaching things a game at a time. I roll my eyes in general at the played-out “storylines” that are ever-present in sports reporting, and when it comes to the Hoyas, I’ll just stick with sportswriters who read the Global Phenomenon.

by WarmupEwing on Dec 29, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Definitely agree that the team should keep the right mindset

Still very proud you don’t have any of our players promising an undefeated season or making claims to being the best big man.

Probably a quiet day for Behanan and Dieng.

Why so Syracuse?

by HoyaJoker07 on Dec 29, 2011 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

to be fair, everyone has been waiting for the Louisville bubble to burst

no one thinks they’re really a top 4 team. Dickie V (uggh) spent the first ten minutes of the game basically repeating that over and over again.

That said, even if you think L’ville is overranked at 4, they’re a legit top 10 (15? sure. fine. whatever) squad that we just beat AT HOME in a BIG EAST OPENER.

we deserve delusion, even if our wins have come against teams that were/are overranked. there aren’t many teams with one or fewer losses and as good a group of wins and as respectable a loss

by thejerseytornado on Dec 29, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Amen

Also, last night might have been the worst Dickie V performance I can remember. I can’t tell who had it worse: our team, who basically got ignored in favor of Louisville’s next opponent or Louisville themselves, whose game coverage consisted of being called overrated and being projected to lose their next game regardless of what happened on the floor during the game HAPPENING RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM.

Also, while they haven’t been over here as much as other fans (such as the casual half of the Bama crowd and that fine Memphis chap), I’m impressed by the posters over on Card Chronicle. In a Burr-called game, they still give our team a lot of credit for the win and might even be a little too hard on their own. The former is classy and the latter could so easily be supplanted by officiating complaints that it’s admirable as well.

So, in kind, I would like to say that despite SOME poor decisions, Siva is a terrifyingly quick player. I remember one offensive rebound he pulled down right beneath the basket (impressive on its own) after which he scorched his way back to the arc to reset. Also, that Kuric kid’s performance was nearly McAlarneyan.

Why so Syracuse?

by HoyaJoker07 on Dec 29, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Dickie V was unbelievably painful

He uttered one rediculous thing after another. Anyone remember when he commented towards the end of the game that " the hoyas better be careful with who takes the final shots of the game and keep the ball in the hands of only Clark or Thompson". A moment later Starks drained another 3 with his hot hand.

Shut the fuck up dickhead!

... straight for a -touchdown- rebound

by glackensghost on Dec 29, 2011 11:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Another point on which I'm torn

Is whether I want our players to have his recognition. He makes a comment like the one you mention and then after the game, he says to keep your eye on Otto Porter like he’s the first person this season to realize Porter’s potential. He even called him the dreaded DD (I will NOT spell it out because it’s absurd).

But yeah, you know what would have told you to look to Markel for a big-time shot?

Watching the game, Dick…watching the damn game.

Why so Syracuse?

by HoyaJoker07 on Dec 29, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Dickie V should rename his double D "depth and defense"

‘cause that’s what we got for the first time in many a year. That kind of DD has staying power.

by DrTox on Dec 29, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Well said

They may not be the #4 team in the nation, but they are still a damn good club, and it was a hard fought game until the end. Can’t ask for much more than that.

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Dec 29, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I just saw a comment (and it might be a couple days old)

that IU was the only undefeated team who had beaten a top 10 team to date. The top 10 at this point in the season really ought to be much more fluid than it is, but instead it’s completely ossified for months on end since columnists can’t acknowledge teensy mistakes in judgment.

by HoyaSmacksYa on Dec 29, 2011 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll bet this game helps our recruiting

not just because of the W — but because we can really point to JT3 giving freshman playtime and when they are hot, letting them run with it.

Just texting prospects: ‘look at what our young guys from the bench did today’

Cuse delenda est

by onceahoya on Dec 29, 2011 9:40 AM EST reply actions  

According to one of the CH bloggers Melvin Tuggle

Nerlens was in the building at the Yum? Hopefully he was impressed with the end results and therefore would love coming to NW, DC and suiting up for the Hoyas….that is all!

by Big Spoon on Dec 29, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Love you MAN!!!!!

Yes you can still be a man and love your brother………

Eastcoastteddy

by Melvin M. Tuggle III on Dec 29, 2011 12:32 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

^this^

I’m still reppin’ the Hoya Nation while I’m overseas (Kuwait)…..YEAH!!!!

by Big Spoon on Dec 29, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Hoya Nation in the Middle East!!!

Wish I was on my way there but my orders got canceled, the troops got sent home before I was due to arrive. Glad to be home with family and new fiance!!! She’s a Hoya in training……..Lol. Do the best Spoon…………

Eastcoastteddy

by Melvin M. Tuggle III on Dec 29, 2011 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Amazing Game

Last nights win was amazing. The sky’s the limit for this young hoya team.

by Gtownfan92 on Dec 29, 2011 9:43 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

It is the "Morning After" a game

Yet I am not getting links to Post recaps or editorials from The Hoya about how we should fire JT3. What gives?

by WarmupEwing on Dec 29, 2011 10:26 AM EST reply actions  

The Big East Beast Award goes to Mr. Markel Starks and Mr. Otto Porter

For their outstanding contribution to the successful win over Louisville in support of the Hoya Nation, God, and the DMV. These two young men displayed heart, determination, and the mental fortitude of true warriors. Given on this day 20111229, I a mere representative of the Hoya Nation here by award you, “BEAST OF THE BIG EAST!”

Eastcoastteddy

by Melvin M. Tuggle III on Dec 29, 2011 10:49 AM EST reply actions  

Any mention of warriors from last night

Should also include the (excellently named) Broad Street ’Brilly. Number 55 not only had 9 points, but was tough as nails against a very physical defense.

Why so Syracuse?

by HoyaJoker07 on Dec 29, 2011 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

OOOOOH

I like Broad Street ’Brilly. Did you just come up with? Very, very nice.

by JGD on Dec 29, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Definitely

Props to yaboynyp on cooking that one up! Definitely agree that he deserves mention, too – might not have put up the big numbers, but his scoring came at a time when the rest of the team was struggling and kept us in the game. And it’s impossible to overstate the value of his tough, physical defense. Lot of love for that kid.

Also, can we get a graphic for Broad Street ’Brilly, similar to the amazing Holliswood one from last night, from anyone with mad Photoshop skillz?

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Dec 29, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

giddy is the word for it

I still can’t believe that happened last night.

HOYAS WIN!

Anyone got a Chvotkin count?

by MyFairHoya on Dec 29, 2011 11:06 AM EST reply actions  

It's funny now

I started watching the game at my place and then when More Like Awesome Freeman got home, I headed over there. He’d TiVo’d it, so I watched the opening minutes again, knowing the early 3-point burial coming, and grumbled to all present that things were looking dour.

Consider my frown upside-down.

Why so Syracuse?

by HoyaJoker07 on Dec 29, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

The best part is that this team feels different from the underperforming teams in the past.

I absolutely love watching them.

I am still shellshocked beyond belief, however, after the past 4 NCAAs

by tjm62 on Dec 29, 2011 11:31 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah I think it just proves how important a quality bench is..

In a game when our first 3 offensive options had sub par games, our 4th, 5th, and 6th options combine to go 14-17, 43 points and 19 Boards. That’s incredible, I don’t think 3 has ever had a bench give that type of contribution

by yaboynyp on Dec 29, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

This is what I've been saying all along...........

I got a 4cyl in the driveway, a V8 in the garage (a classic rebuild in the making),but that 6 cyl never lets me down

Eastcoastteddy

by Melvin M. Tuggle III on Dec 29, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Great Win

SU fan here. Switched over to your game after SU game was out of control. Very impressive. SU can never beat Louisville, so was even more impressed with the road victory. Will be at the dome on Feb 8, wishing for 2 top 10 or even top 5 teams with only a couple losses each. It’s a long season so time will tell. Congrats

by IKE65 on Dec 29, 2011 12:06 PM EST reply actions  

You must be some kind of Zen master

I am a long way away from being able to wish your team any kind of success. But appreciate the class, at any rate. Looking forward to playing you guys.

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Dec 29, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

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