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I'm pretty sure that after every home game there has been at least one complaint about the poor student attendance thus far. Obviously, it's been upsetting and even embarrassing at times that our beloved Hoyas are getting such poor support from the student fan base, especially given our success; however, how is whining and complaining about it actually going to accomplish anything? Instead, why not try to figure out the source(s) of the problem and propose solutions to them?


Reasons for poor attendance after the jump.

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1. HYPE

The biggest reason behind the lack of attendance this year is very simple: there was negative hype coming into this season. No one who is currently an undergrad has seen a post-season victory and everyone came into this season expecting it to be a rebuilding year. This made the upperclassmen who weren't die-hards apathetic and took away from the game-day atmosphere on campus. The freshmen have no real reason to be excited about it for a few reasons: 1. there was no pep rally this year, 2. midnight madness was not exciting (compared to prior years) and poorly attended, and 3. the number of upperclassmen who are overtly excited around campus about basketball are few and far between. Also although I don't have the exact numbers, I'd bet that, due to these reasons, student season ticket sales are at a 5 year low.

Solution? I know that Hoya Blue, whose members comprise 99% of the die-hards that still exist, has been desperately trying to spread the Hoya fever to the rest of the Hoya community, but I feel like it is something that is going to have to come naturally as the season progresses and the Hoyas continue to impress.

2. SCHEDULE

We could not have a worse schedule this year (which also contributes to the low season ticket numbers that I'm predicting). Our only exciting non-conference game, against Memphis, was scheduled during winter break. There also wasn't a game in McDonough this year, which I've always thought was a huge boost in excitement for the fan base (when we didn't schedule ODU at least). Beating Radford 110 to 51 in McDonough is still one of my favorite games. Even our conference schedule is disappointing: 1. no home game for Cuse and the away game is in the middle of the week (no student road trip), 2. no away game for Nova (no road trip), and 3. our only real exciting home game will be against UConn since Nova and ND aren't playing well and the Marquette game is over break.

Solution? Unfortunately, we can't do anything about the schedule, but it clearly is a factor for why there is such poor attendance. I'm a die-hard fan so every game is exciting to me, but besides the few minutes where Howard got dangerously close to us, there has not been a game that I would consider exciting for a casual fan. I would really like to see the athletic department require a mandatory home game against a cupcake in McDonough every year (Howard would have been a perfect game for this).

3. TRANSPORTATION

A yearly issue is that we play in the Verizon Center, which takes at least a half hour to get to using some combination of buses and metro for students. The athletic department no longer provides metro cards and GUTS buses are becoming extremely limited (especially on the weekend). All of this makes the task of getting to and from the game more daunting.

Solution? This one is difficult. Buses directly to the Verizon Center have been suggested, but that's difficult to coordinate, especially for the return, and DC traffic can be awful. I really don't have a good solution for this one. In combination with the lack of hype, smaller issues like this seem to be keeping more fans at home.

I'm sure there may be some other reasons, but I think these are the biggest three. I welcome everyone to bring up other issues you believe are present and solutions to fix these problems in the comments and hopefully we can actually increase attendance instead of just complaining about it.

Stay Casual, my friends.

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This is a great post

I think the kids will come flooding in this January. It’s more than a bit ridiculous that the Hoyas had to play themselves into the Top 10 conversation (after starting the season completely off the radar) for this to happen, but what are you going to do?

The key thing is to ingraine them with a fan culture while we’re there. It only takes a few people to start a cheer or tradition that sticks with the whole fanbase.

The real thing behind it is that attending Georgetown is not, for many students, linked to being a fan of the team like it is at many other schools. Most of the academic hierarchy at the school is lukewarm at best to the Georgetown basketball “tradition”. I don’t see how that ever changes.

And yes, more buses.

by WarmupEwing on Dec 29, 2011 10:04 AM EST reply actions  

they used to bus students to verizon center

took forever because of traffic. plus students would leave early from games in order to catch the limited buses, since more students went back on buses than arrived on them

Good talk.

by Hire Esherick on Dec 29, 2011 11:30 AM EST reply actions  

Dude

We used to drag our asses to LANDOVER, MD for the pleasure of seeing our hoyas at the Cap Centre. If we could fill it back then, no excuses now…get it done students

The difference between depression and anger is effort

by Dried Nuts on Dec 29, 2011 3:32 PM EST reply actions  

it doesn't matter

what you used to do to get to see games. just expecting the students today to behave “like we did back in the day” is pointless.

cuduos to bbpg for starting this thread and begining to think of ways to change the problem.

by hoyafan03 on Dec 29, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I think jerseytornado made some solid suggestions in a thread a few weeks ago

Can’t get more specific than that, unfortunately, and I’m not willing to go Ctrl+F my way through every comment section of the past couple weeks. But maybe he’ll be willing to go over it one more time if we’re lucky.

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Dec 29, 2011 7:34 PM EST reply actions  

those were more about in game chanting/loudness

which, if implemented, would possibly help with getting repeat attendance, but that’s not really the issue (is it?)

for these problems, I’d argue:
1. Somehow create a class pride thing. the frosh aren’t excited? practically the entire team is frosh! SUPPORT THE CLASS OF ‘15 (sidenote: crap I’m old)!
2. For busing, offer buses to the game. students aren’t the type to think rationally about how to get home from something, only how to get to it. Or have buses home, but they leave 30 minutes after the game’s ending, so the students don’t leave early.
3. Cupcakes are fun if there’s participation throughout the cupcake. That’s where having more constant fan chanting and competitions and things move from something we do at big occasions in the game to something we do ALL THE TIME BECAUSE WE"RE REAL FANS!!!! Perhaps this can be combined with idea 1. A battle between the classes in terms of who can chant for their classmates the loudest/most originally. Points taken off for inappropriately timed chants (don’t chant for Jabril randomly when he’s not playing or just made a mistake, for example). Points for creativity and general team supporting chants.
4. This might be the worst/best idea. Somehow more interaction fan/player either before or after the game. The loudest the stadium ever got—per person attending—in the past 4 years was the Villanova snowmaggedeon game. Partly due to the amount of snow, but also because before the game Sims (and someone else. I forget who—my train was delayed and we only got there just before tip) came up into the student section and got them pumped.

by thejerseytornado on Dec 30, 2011 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

I have a bad memory, my bad

But these look like reasonable and productive points for discussion, so I feel vindicated.

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Dec 30, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

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