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Sleeping with the Enemy: The Eagles of American

Finals are over (THANK GOD) and the Hoyas are finally back to playing hoops. Georgetown's last lengthy hiatus of the season ends tomorrow with a game against Wisconsin Avenue rival American University, and as always we here at THE GLOBAL PHENOMENON are bringing you everything you need to know about Georgetown's next opponent. Special thanks to ultra-casual freelance journalist and AU student Tom Schad for providing answers to our hard-hitting questions. Mr. Schad, this Guinness is for you.

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Yikes. via collegebasketballtalk.com

What are the expectations for American this year? What is the best case scenario? Worst case scenario?

Before the season I would've told you we weren't going to finish higher than fourth in the Patriot League. But now, having won eight of our last nine games, I think the expectations are pretty high. The best case scenario would obviously be winning the Patriot League and returning to the NCAA tournament. The worst case would be finishing in the bottom half of the conference, which we haven't done since joining it in 2001-02. To be perfectly realistic, I see us falling somewhere in the middle - third in the conference and being knocked out in the semifinals of the Patriot League Tournament.

More fun with American after The Jump:

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Who are the team's best scorers? Best rebounders? Any freshmen you are particularly excited about?

Senior transfer Charles Hinkle has come out of nowhere and picked up the scoring slack. Believe it or not, he was actually ranked seventh in the country in scoring as of Monday (22.2 ppg). Fellow transfer Troy Brewer (14.1) and Blake Jolivette (7.5) are also contributing. On the defensive end, we've got a real Marcus-Camby-type guy in Tony Wroblicky. He doesn't do much on offense, but he's fifth in the Patriot League in rebounding (6.1 rpg) and his 26 blocks are good for 17th in the NCAA. Also keep an eye on freshman wing John Schoof. His stats so far have been unimpressive, but he's a smart player and has started all 11 games this season (a miracle with notorious anti-freshman coach Jeff Jones at the helm).

After hibernating for a few years, Jeff Jones found his sea legs, culminating with 2 teams making the NCAA Tournament. Strangely, though, it doesn't look like that run paid huge dividends in recruiting - how would you sell American to recruits?

I actually disagree. I think that those NCAA tourney births were critical in bringing in the transfers (Vlad Moldoveanu, Hinkle, and Brewer) that have fueled American the last two seasons. Schoof and backup point guard Wayne Simon could develop into big-time players. Wroblicky also has lots of room to grow and was given a 90 out of 100 rating by ESPN.com out of high school. The recruits are coming, and I think they'll continue to come; Washington DC is a huge draw and JJ is arguably one of the best mid-major coaches in the country (key word: arguably). We're not going to be nabbing any big-time guys, but in terms of mid-major recruits I think we're doing pretty well.

Four editors of this esteemed blog went to Georgetown. We know where to catch the late night Georgetown ladies but where can we see the American talent?

Well Tenleytown is not exactly a happening place on the weekend, so most of our ladies venture downtown and blend in with the rest of DC at bars in Adams Morgan and DuPont. If I had to pick a place nearby, I'd actually say your best bet would be a little diner called Steak & Egg; chances are most sorority sisters will drunkenly end up there after frat parties in the area.

(Casual Note: /immediately googles Steak & Egg)

I am an 18-year-old that wants to go to Washington, DC for college. Why should I come to American instead of Catholic or George Washington?

Oh man, that's an easy one. Catholic has single-sex dorms so it's not even in the discussion; if you could go to college and live in a lady-less dorm then you are a far stronger man than I. As for George Washington, do you really want to be downtown all the time? I mean the closest thing they have to a campus is a few city blocks. No offense George, but American actually encourages its students to spend time outside.

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Students get to spend time outside at American. via www.goroveslade.com

We all watched in horror / amazement when Yancy Gates dropped that poor Xavier center last Saturday. Considering that Kermit Washington is a proud alumnus of American, how does that punch stack up compared to Washington's haymaker? Were you surprised that Gates only got a six game suspension?

That slow motion shot of Frease being decked is hard to watch, but it doesn't even come close to Washington's "punch heard ‘round the world." Rudy Tomjanovich was one of the league's well-known peace keepers and old Kermit dropped him like a sack of potatoes. Full facial reconstruction surgery, out for the rest of the year - it was bad. Tomjanovich said at first he thought the scoreboard had fallen on him; Gates' cheap shot doesn't even compare. That said, he did get off way too easily. I say if you punch a guy in a collegiate basketball game, you're out for the season - period.

How are the next few years looking for American? Do you expect Jones to deliver more NCAA Tournament births?

I definitely think the NCAA births will come, but it's going to take a few years simply based on what the rest of the conference is up to. Each of the last two Players of the Year (Lehigh's CJ McCollum and Bucknell's Mike Muscala) are only juniors and lots of talented underclassmen are stepping up to help them out. American can't quite keep up right now. However, if a few dominos fall our way (namely point guard prospect Madison Jones) we could be dancing again in 2-3 years.

American has established itself as a great refuge for transfer students, featuring Vlad Moldoveanu for the past few years and now relying heavily on Charles Hinkle. Not to go all psychological but is there a parallel here between Jones being bounced around and finally establishing himself at AU?

Yeah I can see the parallel there. I think a lot of major-conference guys leave their teams because a) they aren't winning or b) they're not getting enough playing time. American has a great track record of being able to offer them both. We're not going to compete for a national title any time soon, but we're always competitive in the Patriot League and transfers know that they'll make a difference. That's the main thing that brought Vlad here; he wanted to be a key contributor on the offensive end and be appreciated. Charles has been the same way. These guys have the talent and all they need is an opportunity to show it - JJ understands that.

Once the Big East implodes in another couple years, how do you think DC will respond to having 2 Patriot League teams?

I actually think it'll be the other way around. The Big East is like an amorphous blob slowly spreading and engulfing everything in its path; it's only a matter of time until American is absorbed as well (due of course to its top-tier field hockey and wrestling programs).

How do you see Saturday's game playing out? What is the final score?

I can't believe I'm typing these words, but I actually think American has a shot. We're not going to win the battle of the boards, but Hinkle always gets to the foul line (9.5 free throw attempts per game) and Wroblicky has the size to keep Sims in check. What we lack in athleticism we've made up for in smart play and defensive willpower, and if we can keep it up I think we'll stay within single digits. Georgetown 72, American 63.

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i like the idea of having a shot = 9 point loss

excellent internal delusion mixed with cynicism there.

but he’s still a huge douche canoe.

by thejerseytornado on Dec 16, 2011 9:13 AM EST reply actions  

Strongly disagree

Seemed a pretty casual fellow. Almost everyone I know who went to American can be described as “pleasant” and “mild-mannered”. AU is the Belgium of DC schoools. Georgetown, of course, is hated, spiteful Britain.

by WarmupEwing on Dec 16, 2011 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

'berths' vs. 'births'

Is this some kind of intentional ironic humor I’m missing?

by fijimf on Dec 16, 2011 9:27 AM EST reply actions  

NCAA births

Horrible mental image for 9AM on a Friday

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Dec 16, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

it would explain

the strangely fetal-looking one-that-shall-not-be-named from Davidson.

Hammer of the Cuse

by SirHoya on Dec 16, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Steak & Egg is magical

My drunk order is an Oreo Mint milkshake, Jalepeno Poppers, and Reese’s Pieces pancakes. My lobbying to get it put on the menu as a combo called The Pregnant Woman Special has come to naught.

Why so Syracuse?

by HoyaJoker07 on Dec 16, 2011 9:40 AM EST reply actions  

Uou shut your mouth

Do not question Philly as drunk food.

by StPetersburgHoya on Dec 16, 2011 7:58 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Philly Pizza

RIP

Should have known the end was nigh when people started calling it “Philly’s” and then “Philly P’s.”

What are these assertions!?

by DHB Enterprises on Dec 16, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Tough in the colder months, though.

About 75% of seating is outside and thus currently out of commission.

Why so Syracuse?

by HoyaJoker07 on Dec 16, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

This happened.

Due to a Christmas party two blocks away, Rochester and I did indeed belly up to the counter and scarf down delicious drunk food

Why so Syracuse?

by HoyaJoker07 on Dec 17, 2011 9:33 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

In other news

ESPN for some reason was broadcasting high school hoops last night and future hoya D’Vauntes Smith-Rivera was on. He looked pretty great, 20 pts, and 12-12 from the freethrow line to lead his team to victory. (I am so bored when Georgetown is off…)

http://blogs.ajc.com/georgia-high-school-sports/2011/12/15/oak-hill-82-miller-grove-78/?cxntfid=blogs_georgia_high_school_sports

by genetichoya on Dec 16, 2011 9:49 AM EST reply actions  

gorove slade?

you went to a traffic engineering firm to find a picture of outside. Work with that firm all time – good folks if you want to justify a big-box retailer having no traffic impact.

Please document steak and egg

Last night thoughts on Oak Hill – Miller Grove
1. Please god can we get reinvolved with Tony Parker, he has lost weight, gotten stronger with great touch. Embrassed Hammonds the 7ft kid going to Purdue on Oak Hill.
2. I may watch NC State games just for Ty Lewis who could not look less like a Division 1 player (5’ 11" 165 lbs). Best passer I have seen – and I am west coast guy – since maybe Luke Ridnour. He Purvis and Warren are going to have some obscene lobs at NC St
3. DSR is a scorer. Leading scorer on best high school team in the country, whats not to like. Outside shot at the Jordan/Mickey D games if he keeps it up. Plays like a blend between CW and Free, with some of the plusses and minuses of both. Got to line well, did not finish great, nice stroke, indifferent D – kind of was looking to make steal and did get his hands on a lot of balls. Very happy if he is third guard with Starks and Jabrail.
4. RJ Curington – 6’4" Junior on Oak Hill plays behind DSR. We are recruiting him and he hit a couple of big 3s. Could certainly hand athleteically. Tough between him and Hart, but I think I prefer Hart.

by bunk moreland on Dec 16, 2011 9:54 AM EST reply actions  

BSFS > JD

Wiseys > Wagshals
Bus to Orange Line > Bus to Red Line

I also dispute the discussion of “American talent,” as purely hypothetical.

by StPetersburgHoya on Dec 16, 2011 10:21 AM EST reply actions  

While we're on the subject of local rivalries...

There is a very interesting post about the “lost rivalry” between Georgetown and GW over at hoyasaxa.com today. I am not sure I’d go so far as to analogize it to what we’re losing when Syracuse departs for the ACC, but apparently it was a decent rivalry, and rivalries in general are a good way to hold fan interest.

Could they ever make it back on the schedule? I know there is no compelling reason to play any of the local schools on a regular basis, but we don’t really seem to have a problem scheduling AU or Howard. Whatever bad blood has been spilled with the BB&T Tournament people will always keep us from playing there (plus we have bigger and better places to play in non-conference), but with interest in that tournament waning, we may be able to start scheduling the locals on an individual basis.

Personally, I like the idea of playing more local teams. I know there must be some good reason why we schedule Savannah St., IUPUI, and NJIT, but surely promoting local interest at least partially offsets whatever benefit we get from playing the randoms.

by WarmupEwing on Dec 16, 2011 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

The reason for the IUPUI game

is the Chvotkin pronunciation, and that is enough for me.

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Dec 16, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Savannah St + NJIT weren't randoms. They have connections to G'town hoops

-Savannah St’s coach is Broadnax,
-NJIT’s coach’s entire family are hoyas and former players.

by thejerseytornado on Dec 16, 2011 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Right

I just thought there was maybe another (better) reason for having them on the schedule. If it really comes down to the wife and in-laws of some coach insisting that he play their alma mater, we can probably scratch that in favor of a game that might actually get people in the seats.

As for Savannah State…that’s nice, but again if that’s just a purely personal nod from Coach, I don’t think the fanbase or the team loses out by putting a decent local team on the schedule instead.

by WarmupEwing on Dec 16, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

good mid-major teams would want a home-and-home and/or more of the split of the revenue

whereas a place like savannah state wants to up its exposure and recruiting by being able to tell these guys “look, we played georgetown last year! we played in an nba arena! that’s awesome!”

by thejerseytornado on Dec 16, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a good point

If we’re talking about GW, though, I think they’d be fine with just playing at Verizon if we rotated the “home” team.

Ultimately I don’t think it would be a huge change at all. We’re talking about changing the way we schedule one or two games early in the season. This year we don’t have a Temple/ODU-type mid-major to complement the big time tournament (Maui, etc.) and seemingly annual throwdown with Memphis, so we mostly just have fluff. I wouldn’t mind seeing GW somewhere in there on future schedules, or Mason if we feel like a challenge. I realize scheduling Maryland is its own nightmare, so I’m not going there.

Again, small potatoes. Just killing time until the real season starts.

by WarmupEwing on Dec 16, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

yes, but as an overall schedule, it's still good

we knew maui was going to be two quality opponents. in terms of overall non conference quality opponents, it’s a good year. plus, we also knew we’d have a lot of young players getting lots of minutes, so too tough a non-conference schedule would have been a mistake.

this year is an outlier, just because you don’t normally have kansas + memphis in your OOC tournament. you normally only get one really good game out of it.

by thejerseytornado on Dec 16, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

GW

The Colonials have a massive inferiority complex re: Georgetown and will play harder and draw more fans than a similar team (let’s say St. Louis). A win against each school looks the same in the RPI but the win against GW is harder-earned. Aside from possibly upping attendance – and GW doesn’t travel well – there’s not much of an argument to playing them.

by KeepItSaxa on Dec 16, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

"Possibly upping attendance"...

is probably the best argument to get them on the schedule. Good programs want to generate interest and excitement in the fanbase/alumni throughout the season. As far as the “play harder” point, I don’t think that’s neccessarily true. IUPUI played pretty hard – would GW have “played harder”? Tough to qualify.

And I’ll take your word that GW doesn’t travel well. If getting to Verizon counts as “travel”, then neither do we. Still, I think you’d get more away fans than we had for Sav St, UNC-Greensboro, IUPUI, and NJIT combined.

by WarmupEwing on Dec 16, 2011 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

A GU-GW matchup is probably more likely to attract random DC people who are not fans of either team than a GU-IUPUI matchup, regardless of how poorly GW travels.

What are these assertions!?

by DHB Enterprises on Dec 16, 2011 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with this sentiment

Not saying we should schedule GW instead of a Duke or a Memphis, but I would imagine that we have at least one game each year against a team of equal quality to GW, but of no particular interest. I have to think that playing GW instead of one of those teams would help sell a few more tickets, and probably get a disproportionate amount of ink in the local papers. I feel pretty much the same way about Maryland, but the bad blood seems to be worse with them, so it might not be worth it.

What are these assertions!?

by DHB Enterprises on Dec 16, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

this year we don't have one.

last year it was Temple (playing in philly helps us open up that pipeline for recruiting) as part of a home-and-home, year before that maybe we could have replaced ODU or Harvard (but ODU was a home-and-home, right?).

so basically, in the last three years, the only option that didn’t get a home-and-home and/or wasn’t in a neutral location was…harvard?

by thejerseytornado on Dec 16, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

No

don’t please Mr Huge Douche Canoe Mark Plotkin.

After that last, unholy row,
I never, ever play, basketball now.
It joins a list of things I'll miss like fencing foils and lovely girls I'll never kiss.

by vivanloshoyas on Dec 16, 2011 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't regularly click on them

But I usually read SWTE from work. It’s a little more acceptable for someone to walk by and see a lunch blog on my computer than a beer/girls-with-beer blog.

What are these assertions!?

by DHB Enterprises on Dec 16, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I always presumed it was a thank you

to the opposing author

agreed with the NSFW concern

by bunk moreland on Dec 16, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Have never clicked before.

Will never not click again.

Let's settle this with a poll.

by wadetandy on Dec 16, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Ditto

Also, if the Guiness is for our SWTE guest, can I have dibs on the other two?

by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Dec 16, 2011 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

sometimes, now that I don't read in the office anymore

noticed it was a Corona with a casual wristband for one of the recent ones

"I don't know. I'm making this up as I go."

by aja32 on Dec 16, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Just did.

Guinness. For strength!

After that last, unholy row,
I never, ever play, basketball now.
It joins a list of things I'll miss like fencing foils and lovely girls I'll never kiss.

by vivanloshoyas on Dec 16, 2011 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I always click on them, Casual.

Even though I know what they are and its not the way I roll, I want to support your hard work and journalism.

by loveshack99 on Dec 16, 2011 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

jour·nal·ism   [jur-nl-iz-uhm]

noun
1. the occupation of reporting, writing, editing, photographing, or broadcasting news or of conducting any news organization as a business.
2. press
3. a course of study preparing students for careers in reporting, writing, and editing for newspapers and magazines.
4. writing that reflects superficial thought and research, a popular slant, and hurried composition, conceived of as exemplifying topical newspaper or popular magazine writing as distinguished from scholarly writing: He calls himself a historian, but his books are mere journalism.
5. tireless dedication to taking pictures of one’s lunch.

Let's settle this with a poll.

by wadetandy on Dec 16, 2011 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

More on the dystopian future of college football

Article from PAC12 commish sayin he envisions a single CFB super league of 72 teams being able to negotiate TV deals on par with NFL. Also says Texas/BYU/notre Dame model is short cited because it dilutes leverage. If Texas/OU had joined PAC 12, the 75 million households in league would have driven a tv deal that dwarfs the advantage of the longhorn network.

http://espn.go.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id/31769/larry-scott-on-the-future-one-league

Honestly once one of the leagues achieves critical mass in this regard, the rest will almost certainly band together. Hire is and has been spot on in predicting this. I think it’s a scary future for college sports

by bunk moreland on Dec 16, 2011 2:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Though on the plus side

There’s a chance that if that superleague happened we’d see football decoupling from the rest of the conference system. This would allow basketball to take the front seat in such matters.

Let's settle this with a poll.

by wadetandy on Dec 16, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

10am heinekens

Fly in first thing drop off my bags and straight to the channel. It’s like Christmas in….well….a week before Christmas.

"Before the answer was a 3, I was down in Georgetown with a Hoya chick, lawyer chick....."

by brandonbowmansfootistoobig on Dec 16, 2011 10:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

John Caprio

Our standout walk-on was originally recruited to American by current Georgetown assistant Mike Brennan when he was at American. When Brennan switched over to the Hoyas, he offered Cap a spot as a walk-on. Thank goodness for that!

by GeorgetownCuddler on Dec 16, 2011 7:17 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

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