The Casual Awards: Here Today, Gone To Maui
by CasualHoya on Nov 15, 2011 10:34 AM EST
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PrintThe Georgetown Hoyas opened its Maui Invitational journey with a convincing 86-45 basting of the UNC Greensboro Spartans last night. For the Spartans, the magical run in the Maui Invitational ended with a thud on the floor of the Verizon Center, where the Hoyas improved to 2-0 on the season. For the Hoyas, it's time to fuel the jets and pour the boat drinks, because Maui here we come! Before we get on the plane, however, we're handing out some hardware to those most deserving. Maui No Ka 'Oi, by the way, means Maui is the best. It can also be applied to other things, like CasualHoya.com No Ka 'Oi, for example. Away we go...
Maui, here come the Hoyas. via www.optoutproductions.com
Chris Wright Heart of a Champion Award:
Hollis Thompson. Hollis tied Jason Clark for the team lead with 19 points, and connected on 7-of-10 shots from the floor, including 5-of-6 from three-point land, while grabbing four rebounds in just 18 minutes to lead the Hoyas. The Hoyas controlled this game from the opening minute, and it was Hollis who came out of the gate flying and set the tone early with five quick points.
More Awards after The Jump:
John Thompson Award for Coaching Excellence:
John Thompson III. JT3 has done a very good job of integrating the freshmen thus far, as all of them have gotten plenty of burn in Georgetown's first two games. Last night, Greg Whittington, Otto Porter, and Jabril Trawick led the team in minutes. With Kenner League, the low-profile trip to China, and now these games, the kids have had plenty of time to mesh with the elders, which will be helpful with Kansas looming on the Pacific horizon.
The I Have No Problem With That Award:
I have no problem with Jabril Trawick's emphatic dunk at the buzzer to push the margin of victory to 41 points. JT3 may have mentioned something to him after the game about it, but as a fan it's nice to see these guys step on opponents' throats, even if that opponent is UNC Greensboro.
The Glade Air Freshener Award:
This Georgetown team. This team plays hard on both ends of the court, and the commitment to defense is a refreshing sight to behold. Last night the Hoyas utliized their length on the perimeter to contest numerous passes , and Sims and Lubick muscled down low to impact a number of good looks. These Hoyas may struggle for wins as the Big East schedule takes hold, but it won't be for lack of effort, and that's refreshing, much like Glade's apple cinnamon scented air freshener.
Chicago is My Kind of Town Award:
Theory in the great city of Chicago, IL might be the greatest Hoya bar in the history of the world. Over six TVs dedicated to Georgetown vs. UNC Greensboro on a night when the hated Packers were playing the hated Vikings on Monday Night Football?!?! The bar owner actually apologized to Hoyas fans for changing the sound from a 40 point blowout to MNF. And oh, free shots when the Hoyas break 40 points at the half, and 80 points for the game. If you are not a Theory for the next game, then you aren't living (in Chicago).
I Didn't Know I lived in Russia Award:
The Green Turtle concession stand at the Verizon Center. WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU ARE OUT OF STELLA? I WILL SEE YOU IN HELL!
The America Wins Award:
The Hard Times cafe concession. Sweet sweet stella draft.
The Watered Down Crap Award:
Stella is to Europe what Bud Light is to America. It's just that good, and definitely not worth going to TWO concession stands in search of it.
#FeedtheDelusion Award:
I know we have only played 2 games this season BUT.....
I have no idea how this will translate into wins or losses, but I think, top to bottom, this team has more raw talent than any we have had in a while. This in no way means they are the best team that we have had recently, but just compare this team to the 2007 final four team. The line up was Hibbert, Green, Sapp, Summers, and Wallace. Yes that line up is far better that what we have now. However after them we really only had 1 player on the bench (Ewing) that we could trust in the game. After him we had Crawford who never really did anything, Sead Dizdarevic who hit a 3 once every 6 games, Kenny Izzo who was a football player, Macklin as a freshman who couldn’t really add much, Rivers who played very good defense but was a liability on offense, Octavious Spann (does anyone but me remember him), and Marc Egerson who transferred to UD after the first semester yet still was our 7th leading scorer for the year.
This years starters may not be of the same caliber as that team, but when the shots are falling I feel we are at the very least competitive. And 2 of them probably would have even started on the 07 team (Clark over Sapp and Thompson over a Summers as a freshman) But where this team stands out is our depth on the bench which is something we haven’t had in a while. We have (in my mind) 5 players on the bench who can come in and contribute. In fact I think 4 of those players have the potential to start this year depending on how quickly they develop. I would take Trawick, Whittington, Porter, Hopkins, and Bowen over the bench from the 07 team 7 days a week and twice on Sundays.I am very very optimistic about this team and I know this season will have its disappointments, but we have an incredible amount of talent and depth. We might not have 3 big guns that can get 18 points a game but we have 6 or 7 that can get 10, which unless my math is off, is better.
That is why I was really happy to see us pressing people early and often, cus eventually they will tire out, but hopefully with our bench being as deep as it is, we wont.
"That is crap. It is unfair."
by Iwillpaytheway!! on Nov 15, 2011 1:07 AM EST reply actions
Come on, Man Award:
To the technological masterminds behind guhoyas.com or CSTV or whatever the hell it is that stole my $10 for a "monthly pass" so that I could have the privilege of WATCHING Hoyas games that aren't broadcast in my neck of the woods. The first half shenanigans against Savannah State in which the sound feed was a decade behind the live action was fixed by the time the game ended, so I was SURE that by the time this game tipped off that there wouldn't be any issues. WRONG. Listening to Chvotkin call the game is great, but staring at a dark screen for two hours can really make you question your purpose in life.
My life has no meaning.
Boots to Asses Award:
The Rock. Flipped on WWE RAW last night since the Monday Night Football game was terrible, and caught The Rock make an electrifying appearance in Boston. In addition to dominating the mic and controlling the crowd for over ten minutes with his usual array of catchphrases, The Rock told John Cena that Cena had lady parts, delivered a couple of Rock Bottoms to that Miz guy and left to a standing ovation. Rock and Cena team up as a tag team at Survivor Series on Sunday, which will most certainly end with them turning on one another and setting up an epic clash down the road. Also, I am over 30 years old.
Casual Global Hoops Tour Award:
Looks like there will be a Casual Caravan heading from New Orleans to Baton Rouge tomorrow night to catch the Lady Hoyas in action against the LSU Tigers. On Thursday, yours truly will be heading to NYC to catch St. John's in action against Arizona at Madison Square Garden. All welcome.
Lenny Kravitz Best Hair Award:
Hollis Thompson! Man, that is some quality hair growth young Hollis has.
Otto Porter Award:
This award, given to the Hoya that best fills the boxscore, goes to...Jason Clark! Clark scored 19 points while attempting a whopping 18 shots (1-7 from three), and added 5 rebounds, 3 assists, and 3 steals in his 20 minutes of action.
Occupy Verizon Award:
Good to see Roy Hibbert and Jeff Green in attendance last night. I assume this will happen a lot, especially considering Billy Hunter is a buffoon. I mean at what point to the players kick back and realize that they get paid millions of dollars to play basketball for a third of the year and now they're holding out because they want more than 50% of the basketball related income? I have no sympathy for these guys. But yes, good to see Roy and Jeff at the game.
Old Balls Award:
Might as well rename this award the Jerry Sandusky Award. What the hell was he doing last night being interviewed by Bob Costas on national television for? Why not just march into the courtroom and scream "I'm guilty!" This guy sickens me and gives me the jeepers creepers and the heebie jeebies.
Jim Nantz Comments of the Game Award:
Good work as always in the Casual Gamethread, here are some golden nuggets:
do we get knocked out of the tournament if we lose tonight? And if not, what precisely is the point of this game being part of Maui? Raw deal indeed for our opponents.
KBE
I don’t even need a MASN feed.
HoyaChat down, so I'm hanging with the Casualites
Wearing a condom.
by B. Lerner @ Hoya Prospectus on Nov 14, 2011 7:14 PM EST reply actions
This sounds like a two man show...
Can’t be sure, since I can’t see anything.
by genetichoya on Nov 14, 2011 7:41 PM EST reply actions
who will score more points tonight...
unc greensboro or the green bay packers
Casually.
funny story
Took a roadtrip with the housemates up to pittsburgh. Go to a market on the Strip and run into big roy. We take a photo. Then hour later see him at Primanti Bros. 3 hours later, we see him again. He laughed and definitely thinks we’re stalking him. Now I’m 50 feet from him again. Too afraid to say hello for fear of restraining order.
by Hoya Vey on Nov 14, 2011 8:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
caprio too shocked by rebound to hang onto ball
Blowout. Jersey style
by rochesterhoya07 on Nov 14, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
Gratuitous Pic of Kate Upton Wearing Next to Nothing on a Beach Award:
Indeed.
The Georgetown Hoyas are an undefeated not quite yet nationally ranked powerhouse.
Kansas is NeXt.
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Derek Zoolander Award for Narcissism
Casual Hoya for giving himself a comment of the game award.
Good talk.
did anyone else see that sweet little 3 minute clip on leo's on espn
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by Matt Causey's Jumpshot on Nov 15, 2011 11:23 AM EST reply actions
What?
A clip about Leo’s? As in the cafeteria?
it was about the private room the team has
I hear it’s really nice
by GeorgetownCuddler on Nov 15, 2011 8:59 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
its still a room in leos
But it is right next to the ice cream which is a plus
"That is crap. It is unfair."
by Iwillpaytheway!! on Nov 16, 2011 1:27 AM EST up reply actions
Normally...
I’d be anti-throat stomping. I’ve always appreciated classiness when we swamped opponents in years past. This year isn’t so much anti-class as it is pure, unadulterated passion. Every player is working, as a friend told me, “as if they’re lives depended on it.” In truth, their playing time really does. So if that means that the frosh will go for any bucket they can, more power to them.
I agree. Hopefully JT3 can teach them the classiness without losing the passion
After seeing the previous iterations, I’m all about making sure the team is always playing with passion moreso than staying classy.
that said, the ideal is a combo of both. Can’t expect that from frosh immediately, but hopefully JT3 can teach that up.
by thejerseytornado on Nov 15, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
The China Trip
has really engrained into the Hoyas team of having a chip on their shoulders, and also the downgrading of the US credit rating as well!
That is the first game that I can remember where we scored so many point that I forgot to keep watching
It should also noted that despite being up by 40 points, nobody left early. We finally have 9000 diehard fans that will half fill Verizon until the very end of a blowout on a Monday night.
Section 101.
by RileysDressLikeAHoyaJersey on Nov 15, 2011 1:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The problem is never when we're blowing out by 40
It’s when we’re losing by 8 with a minute to go that we lose people.
Let's settle this with a poll.
Students
Suck. Where were they?
Only 1 half of 1 student section?
Get your asses to the games you bums. Do you really have something better to be doing that going to a basketball game or getting drunk at a basketball game? No you don’t you filthy liars.
it was a Monday night
Let’s give the students a break for once
by GeorgetownCuddler on Nov 15, 2011 9:00 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Monday? So what?
A majority of our games are on weekdays. It doesn’t seem to slow down the alums, who actually have places to be before/after the games.
yeah i dont get what "break" the students deserve
they write terrible editorials demanding more performance in the newspapers and cant be bothered to attend games
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Nov 15, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Unless
You had an exam the next day or a paper due the next day being a weeknight is not an excuse. I’m only a couple years removed from college I don’t think I’m being unreasonable. If us alums can get to the weeknight games after work and having to most likely get up earlier the next day to go back to work then students should be able to make it to the games as well.
by hoyasincebirth on Nov 15, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Wait what?
No one should have an obligation to go to an entertainment event… doesn’t that defeat the purpose?
Well over half of undergraduates don’t even have tickets. And many of those that do view the game as just a social event, and couldn’t care less if the team wins or loses. It’s not fair to project our feelings onto other people and expect them to have the same priorities as we do.
by WallaceAtTheLineShooting2 on Nov 16, 2011 1:21 AM EST up reply actions
thats fine
but then they shouldnt have expectations of success on the court.
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Nov 16, 2011 1:41 AM EST up reply actions
It's just a "social event"
Until the team starts winning, and then these “socialites” (which I am now instituting as a term in contrast with “casualites/casualties”) do show up en masse with high expectations…which, when things don’t always go well, have often turned into boos directed at specific Hoya players and ridiculous editorials that hint at the removal of the coach. These criticisms of the student body are not neccessarily directed at their non-participation in a game against UNC-Greensboro. Rather, they are mindful of the fact that those 75% empty seats often get filled at critical moments by people who don’t really support the program. That actually detracts from the season-long experience of dedicated fans (and probably the team). Of course attendance isn’t mandatory, but we’re well within our rights to resent, to a degree, the lukewarm attitude.
Also, and I know this was not your argument, but it is perfectly fair game to criticize student organizations like Hoya Blue, whose entire purpose is to build support for the program.
What?
This is America, projecting our feelings and beliefs on others is what we’re all about.
Everyone should be exactly as passionate as I am.
But seriously
It’s also more than an entertainment event. Students are a part of the team. As the 6th men they owe it to the team to create an intimating environment. If they’re not going to show up and cheer then they don’t deserve those sections. They’re given special seats to create a good environment if they can’t bother to show up or don’t view it as their obligation to be loud then they can sit in the 400s. They don’t serve their purpose then they don’t deserve special seats. Maybe this hasn’t been illustrated to them propperly but the only reason the students should have those seats behind the basket is to help the team. If they’re not going to do that then the school is better off selling those seats to season ticket holders for much more of a profit. Everytime you don’t show up and be loud you’re letting the team down.
by hoyasincebirth on Nov 16, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Fair Enough but,
If students didn’t get the “good” seats, they wouldn’t come. At all. Trust me. I’ve been in 400s once of twice (much to my chagrin), it’s depressing. Some people just turn around and leave. And the ones that stay don’t cheer unless it’s a really big/close/crazy game. And then we wouldn’t have a student section.
And most of them will do what they damn please, expect what they want, and show up to games when they want. Until we get an on campus arena or triple the size of our student body (Haha, imagine mentioning that idea at the campus planning meeting and watching some of the “neighbors” start to have seizures), I REALLY don’t see how we can change this. I mean, we can be BITTER about it, but I have enough stress in my life, I guess.
Also, lets be real, the sports writers for The Voice and The Hoya are at every game, barring some sort of extreme conflict, so you can’t criticize them for that.
by WallaceAtTheLineShooting2 on Nov 16, 2011 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
So you admit it's a problem
Everything in your first paragraph describes what the students in the lower sections do anyway. It’s not being “bitter” to be frustrated that this team isn’t getting the support it deserves from its student body. It’s college athletics, and while we’re not KU or UCLA or Duke, we’ve got a program that for decades has been in the upper level. Granted, not everyone comes to Georgetown for the basketball, but enough are interested/excited by the prospect of a good big-time sports team to come consistently to games.
It is a problem that a Syracuse fan can call the GU fanbase, on the whole, “soft”, and be right about it. I put that blame on the student leadership, which for any program is the prime motivator to getting people interested and active with team support. It may be just another “entertainment” alternative to whatever else goes on during weekday nights on the Hilltop (um….), but it’s not getting the promotion it needs or deserves.
And yeah, an attitude like this doesn’t exactly engender a positive response from the undergrads, but undergrads don’t read this blog anyway – which I guess is also a problem?
It's a subject that could be beaten-to-death...
but the last thing I’ll say is that the crowds at the beginning of my undergraduate years (when we were “doing things” in the tournament) were much better for BAD games then towards the end of my undergraduate years (when we “bombing spectacularly” in the tournament).
People who are only casual (no pun intended) basketball fans can get pumped up to see a final four team play William and Mary or Radford. It’s tougher for a team that lost to a 13 seed in the first round to pump people up.
Why have the double standard? Students aren’t allowed to expect anything if they don’t show up at every game. Why should students show up if the team can’t win when it counts.
…just playing devil’s advocate.
by WallaceAtTheLineShooting2 on Nov 16, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
you're thinking about it wrong
students should not be expecting anything at all. this is blind, unconditional support for their peers in competition.
the same goes for fans and alums.
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Nov 16, 2011 6:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Disagree
maybe I’m just a goddamn hippy liberal, but they can expect whatever they want and follow the team in any way they want.
by WallaceAtTheLineShooting2 on Nov 16, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
you goddamn hippy liberal you
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Nov 16, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
This will definitely come up frequently for the next couple of years
Fan morale pretty much bottomed out at the end of last season, and I think you’ll some noise about “fair-weathers” from the people who have continued to go to every game as the program reloads.
Anyway, good points by you. From a Ron Swanson libertarian standpoint, you’re right, can’t logically insist the kids “should” be at all these games. Here is a present for your solid argumentation:
If we want to get more students on the blog
We need to get Jahidilikespie on the case. He told me (yelled it at me 20 times) to “GET ON THE BLOG” in a bar in NYC during the BET and I think he recruited about 10 other bloggers that day.
"That is crap. It is unfair."
by Iwillpaytheway!! on Nov 17, 2011 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
JLP
Gently rubbed my shoulders and softly whispered that he’d really like me to join the blog…
by BoatsNHoes on Nov 17, 2011 1:29 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ah, so THIS recruitment strategy is the reason
that there is such a limited female presence around here. Suddenly it all becomes clear.
I was there
and can vouch that this happened.
by WallaceAtTheLineShooting2 on Nov 17, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
At the end of the day, the fans that showed on Monday
are the ones that are passionate Georgetown fans, regardless of our ranking or opponent. It was a Monday night game, against a no-name team, and there has been no real mainstream buzz about this years Hoyas. Aside from this community of dedicated Georgetown fans, not many people expect much from us this year and that extends to the casual Georgetown University students. Is it a sad realization? Of course. But think about it, we have 10 freshmen and sophomores, and no real “star” presence without Austin and Chris last year or a Greg Monroe in ‘09. Hoya Blue does what it’s been doing year in year out the past couple of years but when a majority of the student body is easily considered a casual fan then there’s only so much we can expect from them. We face obstacles that some of the schools previously listed don’t, including an arena that’s extremely disproportionate to the population of the student body (Duke, UCLA, Pitt) and an arena that’s 25 minutes away from campus in Downtown DC, in no way convenient for said casual student-fan. Throw on top of those reasons that we’re the 3rd option in our own home arena behind the Wizards and Caps, and you further realize that Friday or Saturday primetime games are nearly impossible to come across. That alone is enough to take away the likelihood of Georgetown basketball games becoming real social events where all of campus closes down because everyone is at the game.
I’m not saying all of this in an attempt to excuse the students for their showing, but we need to realize we are FAR from best-case scenario that is Duke and all of their home games, including those against the scrubs of the world. While Georgetown basketball is obviously a big deal there’s a lot that arguably would need to happen/should’ve happened in order to be on the same field as a Duke.
What Rocks? We Rocks
by hoyablueandgray on Nov 16, 2011 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
No one is expecting Duke
I think the expectation is “a good showing for Gtown”. I think 20-30 minutes to an arena is pretty standard, even for an “on-campus” arena at a state school. If all that is keeping the student body from showing are low expectations and lack of knowledge about a young team – again, I put that on student leadership for not promoting the program on campus enough.
The notion that we need Duke-level success or consistent Final Four appearances to get good crowds throughout the season is an unrealistic expectation to hold out in front of the team.
Extra work
https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/Hoya2aPacer/status/136591490087526400
Hibbert impressed with hoyas
by hoyafan03 on Nov 15, 2011 7:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Hoya2aPacer Roy Hibbert
One thing I can say about these Hoyas this year. On their days off they come in and get extra work wo coaches telling them to.
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Nov 15, 2011 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
watching duke play basketball is horrific
do they go over in practice how to look annoying while yelling “come on” after hitting a three?
Good talk.
I love how Knight wore green
That guy is such a dick…it’s delightful!
Oh well
by BoatsNHoes on Nov 15, 2011 9:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
WVU loses to Kent St.
Let the season of schadenfreude begin. Worst of luck to all those fleeing the conference.
Ha ha Huggins
Loved seeing those dirtbags go down. Great speech by Kent State coach at half.
Agree with all earlier comments about our promising freshman. They’re playing with a noticeable degree of attitude that’s been wanting of late. Very, very refreshing to see.
AAAAND Pitt continues the trend
Karma’s a bitch
Why so Syracuse?
by HoyaJoker07 on Nov 16, 2011 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
i hope
that they destroy kentucky. regardless, we’ll obviously know much more about our hoyas come monday.
I think they look ok but flawed...
T Rob is going to give us major problems.. There guards are good but inconsistent.. Hopefully we catch them on a off night, but I just hope we compete hard win or lose…
I agree
The most promising thing is that the guards seem to ignore Robinson a lot of the time.
by hoyasincebirth on Nov 15, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
Didn't realize this until now
JC had 18 shots in 20 minutes? That’s a serious black hole right there.
im not worried about it
9 of those shots were layups/dunks. the fact jason was driving is encouraging and i hope he takes open threes.
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Nov 16, 2011 1:58 AM EST up reply actions
^this
also I’m not sure how many of those shots, if any, were forced. Most of them were open looks that you need to take if you are Jason. And it wasnt like he was trying to do everything himself and taking contested shots from the league formerly known as the NBA range (LFKNBA has a nice ring). He and Hollis were just the beneficiaries of good ball movement around the perimeter in the first half, and were getting open looks cus they were the last ones in line. The same thing happened in the second with Starks.
"That is crap. It is unfair."
by Iwillpaytheway!! on Nov 16, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
All the shots he took were good shots..
Except maybe 1.. He wasn’t hunting his shot he was playing aggressive smart basketball. He was playing extremely hard and is a great team guy. Watch the after game press conference, and look at Jason when they asked Coach about him shooting that much.
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