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by HoyaHarrier on Jan 4, 2011 3:06 PM EST
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Katherine Hatch sent a message to the members of SU in DC Alumni Club.
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Subject: Georgetown Ticket Update - latest info as of 1/4/11
Since the Syracuse/Georgetown men's basketball game is the most popular event by far for Syracuse alums in the area, the SU Alumni Club of Washington, DC has always bought a large group of tickets for the Georgetown basketball game vs. Syracuse. We have been in touch with Georgetown ticket sales as well as the Verizon Center for months, and we were told that we could expect tickets to be available on January 3rd when individual tickets were to go on sale via Ticketmaster. We've received lots of questions about the tickets, and while there's not much to share we want to keep our members up to date.
We have been in contact with Verizon Center Group Sales as late as this morning (1/4/2011). They are as upset as we are that individual and group ticket sales have been delayed by Georgetown (they make money off the group sale to us). They indicated to our Club representative that when tickets are released that we will be the only group that will get tickets, and those tickets will be ready the day they are released. They just don't know when that will be.
But they believe there will be tickets released since they don't feel the building is as close to a sell-out as has been rumored. More proof of this is that Georgetown is waiting until January 18 to offer students tickets to the Syracuse game, with a limit of 4/student. That means there are literally thousands of tickets still not sold if they can guarantee 4/student.
Ticket brokers do have tickets available at above face value for the game. And Georgetown itself is offering up to 8 tickets/person for a minimum $25 donation on top of the price of tickets. While the $25 "donation" only increases the price/ticket $3, we don't feel it is in the best interest of the Club to "donate" at least $2500 to the Georgetown Athletic Department to get "blocks" of tickets as small as 2 together.
Especially since Georgetown is now 1-2 in the Big East conference after their loss to St. Johns last night!
That is it for now. Thank you for you interest, ideas, and information on the Georgetown ticket situation. We understand the loyal following that Orange basketball has and want to offer tickets as much as you want to buy them.
Stay Casual, my friends.
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My handle used to be Jeff Green's Dad, but it was confusing and creepy, namely because I am not his dad. My new handle is JGD. I am trim and in charge.
would have been funny
if you hadn’t stolen it from nunes
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Jan 4, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
Simple Math
Its really a simple game of numbers. More students at a diploma factory like Cuse = more fans. We are selective with whom we educate.
Syracuse undergrad: 13,736
Georgetown undergrad: 7,092
Combine that with the fact that everyone in upstate NY considers Cuse to be their “pro team” because there is nothing else to do in that god-forsaken tundra, and you have a bunch of people who grow up Cuse fans. My question: If Syracuse is so great, why do so many Cuse fans live in DC? I don’t know many Gtown grads that live in Cuse. In fact, I know two. And they hate it.
We aren’t scared; we are just selective.
And...
Out of all 16 teams in the Big East, Syracuse is the furthest away from a professional franchise and major city. And that “major city” is the Buffalo. Every other Big East member is within 2 hours away from an actual major city. And Syracuse is the only collegiate athletic draw, unless you include LeMoyne.
Are there more Cuse fans? Yes.
Is it a product of the remote location of the school? Absolutely.
Is it a product of its position as the lone BCS level team? Yup.
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Jan 6, 2011 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
this is a joke right?
Why can’t Hoya fans just admit they have a bad fan base and Cuse has a good one? Who cares what the reasons are for it? Does it make it any less true?
Just look at yesterday. You guys played a big conference game against WVU, and could only sell 13K tickets. Cuse played a road game at Seton Hall – and the game was sold out with about the half the arena in Orange.
ah yes
cuse appropriation standards
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Jan 4, 2011 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
Just ask Orange alum Biden
... straight for a touchdown... I mean Rebound
by glackensghost on Jan 5, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Fear is the Greatest Compliment
I’d be scared of Syracuse if I was HoyaFan too…
This is the year JTIII bites the towel…
what is there to fear?
gtown picked their biggest home game and decided to turn it into a winter homecoming by promoting it specifically to out of town fans.
cuse would NEVER do anything of the sort, right? oh, wait.
Syracuse Is Basically Daring You Not To Attend The SU-Pitt Game
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Jan 4, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
That's all good and well...
..but public tickets were supposed to be released yesterday for sale via ticketbastard… G-Town has not released the tickets…
Verizon Center Ticket office says they have been given no ticket blocks to sell and that the game isn’t even close to sold out…
There’s a difference between actively promoting ticket packages to your home fanbase and purposefully preventing would-be visiting fans from attending the game BY NOT SELLING ANY TICKETS PUBLICLY…
That is bullshite…
Spin anyway you want… reality, I’d be pissed too if visiting fans were more numerous and louder than our home fans…
That is embarrassing…
This situation is also embarrassing for G-Town… The main difference is this situation is not live on national TV.
I know you are but what am I?
My handle used to be Jeff Green's Dad, but it was confusing and creepy, namely because I am not his dad. My new handle is JGD. I am trim and in charge.
BUT... BUT... BUT
Have you ever considered that the game never went on sale to the general public because it is indeed sold out and Ticketmaster is wrong? I know GU Alums that were waitlisted for tickets.
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Jan 5, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
my point precisely
Take No Prisoners, especially if they wear Orange.
by hoyabballownsall on Jan 5, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
all this proves
Is that cuse knows absolutely nothing about georgetown ticket office. If gtown is attempting to produce the same effect as 2010 duke then where do these rumors about thousands of unsold originate from. Plus if students have not had opportunity to purchase individual game tickets that will be a significant impact. it would be hilarious if gtown only has a couple hundred of tix to offer to those f**kheads from cuse.
Take No Prisoners, especially if they wear Orange.
by hoyabballownsall on Jan 4, 2011 7:28 PM EST reply actions
Do we have an update
on why there aren’t any on sale, even after the 1/3 date originally given? Did we actually sell it out?
by Vee Sanford's Next-door Neighbor on Jan 4, 2011 8:38 PM EST reply actions
''If gtown is attempting to produce the same effect as 2010 duke then where do these rumors about thousands of unsold originate from''
From a crappy unmotivated fanbase?
Wrong
The rumors are from pathetic and bored Cuse fans looking for something to complain about.
The amount of tickets Cuse fans are used to seeing is much smaller (closer to zero) for this game because (1) it is a weekend game at Verizon – first time in five years that has happened and (2) Georgetown is actively marketing this weekend as a winter homecoming – only the second year they are running this type of promotion.
Let’s also dispel some other rumors:
Ticketmaster is not pissed/angry/annoyed with Georgetown because the owner of DC/Bmore Ticketmaster is also the owner of the Verizon Center AND sits on the Georgetown Board of Directors. He was instrumental in promoting this idea last year for the Duke game and you can be sure he was this year as well.
Syracuse University did have tickets to this game, like all opposing schools have an allotment of visitors tickets. Perhaps complaining Cuse fans aren’t donating enough to be included in these conversations.
Georgetown has no obligation to ever release tickets to the public. They can sit on them and eat the cost if they want. It is their call.
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Jan 5, 2011 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
Ted is the man
What are these assertions!?
by DHB Enterprises on Jan 10, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Cuse will still dominate the stadium
Fact number 1)
The last couple of years Syracuse has probably had 80% of the upper deck and at least 40% of the stadium
Fact Number 2)
Meth, and the other drugs made in the dorm rooms of Gtown students are both time consuming and costly to produce. I am confident that most Gtown students will be far too interested in their drug manufacturing to pick up anywhere close to their allotment of tickets.
Fact 3)
DC fans for virtually any sport are too ambivalent, and will eventually just sell a ton of their tickets to Cuse fans, who will pay more (probably because their lack of a drug habit allows them to splurge on other goods). You can post all the different traitor list you want, but as your team’s conference record get closer to 8-8 for the year, more and more disinterested fans will start unloading their tickets for whatever they can get.
In the end that last fact may be for the best. We are saving you the pain of watching another crushing defeat and helping you get a worst seed in the NCAA tourney. Your annual first round lost hurts a lot less when your a 7 or 8 seed then when you think your final four material and lose to someone like Ohio.
good point about the meth
i often wonder how a university full of drug manufacturers and addicts consistently outranks a school full of beautiful, polished students like syracuse in all relevant academic categories.
maybe i’ll go ask the homeless cuse grad on my corner what he thinks.
Casually.
You're being a butthead
My handle used to be Jeff Green's Dad, but it was confusing and creepy, namely because I am not his dad. My new handle is JGD. I am trim and in charge.
by JGD on Jan 5, 2011 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
That Meth Fact
Is pretty funny. Well played.
by itsallthatmatters on Jan 5, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
But it turned out not to be a meth lab
What are we, WVU? It was a dimethyltryptamine lab. Whatever the hell that is.
The Gentleman's Trip
Because Georgetown’s first year drug dealers are classy.
Are you still sore...
about losing in the Big East Tournament (in your opening game) and being forced to sell your tickets to all the other BE fans?…
It’s ok…. As the physical model for all Syracuse alums used to say…“Two out of three ain’t bad!”
by MerlinWilson'sSister on Jan 5, 2011 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
last I checked Cuse won the season series and did better in the tournament
That’s all great that you got lucky and won a game after one of our star players messed up his knee. However I would much rather lose in the BE tourney than in the first round of the tournament to some low level Mid Major.
Do you really want to compare seasons? We kicked your ass twice. Now it is a little unfair that Syracuse got a home game in Syracuse, and had half the fans here too, but don’t blame us that your fans were too busy posting on LateNightShots, Icing each other and slamming drinks at Smithpoint to come out to the game. Some schools have dedicated fans, and other schools just show up after a win. Regardless of what you say on this board we all know where your school stands.
by CapitalOrange on Jan 6, 2011 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
We had the same argument last year
The difference in fan base is all about location and size of student population. It has absolutely nothing to do with the state or history of programs, or type of fan. If you want to brag about being located in Syracuse, NY – go ahead. I’ll yield that Georgetown is not located in the middle of no where.
Here are some facts which you will undoubtedly ignore:
- Syracuse is 2.5 hours away from the nearest professional sports franchise, the farthest of any Big East team
- Syracuse has no local BCS collegiate competition, unlike every other school in the Big East (save WVU which is only 90 min away from Pitt)
- Syracuse’s undergrad student population is nearly 2x that of Georgetown
This all boils down to the point I made last time you came around here. Just because you live in Washington, DC does not make you a fan of Georgetown (case in point- YOU), which is not true of Syracuse NY.
How does Georgetown fix this problem? They pick one weekend home game a year and push for all of their out of town alums to come to down. They picked Cuse this year. And now you all are whining.
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Jan 6, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
Its about location, but not so much the students
Syracuse does pull in a lot of fans by being the only show in town. Thats the biggest problem with the BE, and also its saving grace as a BCS conference. But you would be kidding yourself if you thought you had a loyal fanbase. You don’t but up a traitor’s list unless your high priced donor’s sell it to other fans. DC has always had a problem with its fans selling opposing places its tickets. With the exception of the Caps, DC doesn’t have a great sports reputation. Its not just a Gtown problem, its pretty much every sports teams problem. Until 25 years ago, no one was actually from the area. Hell the Milwaukee Brewers can bring more fans to Nats park than our fans can. This year it may actually be worse because you can basically recover much of the cost of your season ticket by selling one game and a lot of fans (including your average bandwagon DC fan) want tickets and really can’t get them anywhere.
I actually probably have this board to thank as I got my tickets through making a 25 dollar donation at the suggestion of everyone here. Hell I may even use it to try to get NCAA tournament tickets, since there is a decent chance Syracuse will play in DC.
by CapitalOrange on Jan 6, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
That's not fair
Cuse fans are not anymore dedicated than Georgetown fans. Yes, Cuse has a larger amount of dedicated fans, by virtue of having a larger fan base, but don’t lump all Georgetown fans in with “DC bandwagoners”.
Traitor list has many facets – out of town alums using stubhub without thinking of consequences, professional scalpers, and corporations using tickets for sales/marketing. We aim to fix the first of those. Cuse doesnt have that problem.
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Jan 6, 2011 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
since when is 40% of 100% dominating?
High fives only on three pointers.
by TheYellofAllYells on Jan 6, 2011 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
We will be there in force.
We will DOMINATE…..again! And your pudgy back-court duo won’t be able to stop us! This is a shameless attempt to control the Cuse nation’s perennial takeover of your venue. The fact that you can’t/won’t admit that, speaks volumes! This move will backfire!
Make sure you show up to Verizon, where your annual azz-whuppin’ will commence! LGO
This is a shameless attempt to control the Cuse nation’s perennial takeover of your venue.
This is an annual event for a Winter Homecoming weekend for out-of-town alumni. It happened last year, and it will happen next. But don’t let that fact get in the way of your ego.
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Jan 5, 2011 7:58 AM EST up reply actions
I'm as down on the team right now as anybody...
But can somebody remind these assclowns that we PUNKED them in the Garden (Carrier Dome-South) the last time we played. Full of Cuse fans then too. Just because G’town fans/alums have better stuff to do (like go to their decent jobs) than care about their perenially underachieving basketball program 24/7 (and let’s not kid each other…Cuse admin/fans think they are on the same level of the other historic programs like Duke/UK/KU/UNC/UCLA and have 1 NC to show for it…we have 1 NC but don’t try to pretend that we care a quarter as much, because we don’t, which is sad) than so be it. I can’t wait for you guys to actually go on the road once this year and lose to Providence or whomever. Again, not MSG or Atlantic City…a REAL ROAD GAME. And however we are playing now, I can’t wait to roll you hicks in DC in February. We aren’t losing that game, I don’t care how many of you rednecks are there.
"Before the answer was a 3, I was down in Georgetown with a Hoya chick, lawyer chick....."
by brandonbowmansfootistoobig on Jan 5, 2011 10:26 AM EST reply actions
Hoya Paranoia
I like it. Anything that gets more Georgetown fans in and keeps more Syracuse fans out is a good thing in my book.
I have a feeling that we’ll see a much grayer, less orange-looking Verizon Center this year than we did last year. And like the big win over ‘Cuse at MSG last year, with it being Senior Day for Austin, Chris, and Julian, I’m confident the good guys will emerge victorious.
It is a lot easier
To get to DC than it is to get to bumf**k NY, and the world is probably better because of it.
Take No Prisoners, especially if they wear Orange.
by hoyabballownsall on Jan 5, 2011 4:41 PM EST reply actions
It amazes me
that Cuse has always screwed with Georgetown by giving them the minimum amount of opposition tickets required by the conference and sticking them in the top corner rafters of the air condition-less Carrier Dome (hilarious because the arena is named after a HVAC company) but goes apeshit when Georgetown sells tickets to its own fans first.
Cuse has tickets. The minimum amount. They went to its highest donors. Georgetown sold the rest to its own fans. Sorry Cuse – but continue whining, I guess its all you know how to do.
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
Well...
Sorry Cuse – but continue whining, I guess its all you know how to do.
by WallaceAtTheLineShooting2 on Jan 5, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
+1 (million)
Take No Prisoners, especially if they wear Orange.
by hoyabballownsall on Jan 5, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
And they purposely
Put us in the overflow student section last trip up there which led to us being assaulted.
Nothing like having...
a cup of dip-spit thrown at your head. My favorite part was how the Syracuse security guards stood around doing nothing, just like the rest of the inbred moron residents of that glacial hellhole.
Meanwhile, I had a Devendorf sign that said “Hide the Women and Children” confiscated personally by a member of the Georgetown coaching staff in ’09. Really points out the difference in class between the two programs.
That being said, my sign was hilarious.
by WallaceAtTheLineShooting2 on Jan 6, 2011 1:48 AM EST up reply actions
ALL Schools have assholes
My mother got ice chucked at her from a luxury suite and we were in the club section a couple of years ago @ Gtown.
All kidding aside, the moment when it goes from smacktalk to physical altercations, its just wrong. I have plenty of Gtown friends. As you can tell I find it fun to talk trash back in forth. That where the line has to be drawn. There is virtually nothing that can be said in the course of these “conversations” to justify physical attacks.
The other reality is students are generally the worst. They have no understanding of where the line is. I know of plenty of other stories of Gtown fans pushing girls and acting completely inappropriate. 95% of the time, the people are probably students.
by CapitalOrange on Jan 6, 2011 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
What kinda loser...
Has time to troll around their rival’s blog?
by VictorPage'sLeftEye on Jan 6, 2011 11:20 AM EST reply actions
I troll Hoya Suxa
That ish is hilarious.
It felt good to say that.
My handle used to be Jeff Green's Dad, but it was confusing and creepy, namely because I am not his dad. My new handle is JGD. I am trim and in charge.
I don't mind Cuse folks commenting on this thread
It has to do with them.
I mind Cuse trolls commenting where it is not wanted or warranted (ie SJU post-game)
Suxa’s site, by name alone, always revolves around Gtown
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Jan 6, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
+1
no problem with them complaining on this thread about not getting tickets.
That said their complaining only makes me smile. I could care less that they are having difficulties overloading the stadium. Its a hoya home game, its supposed to be mostly hoya fans. I’m sure Duke does similar things for games against UNC, despite UNC being a bigger university, you don’t see that many UNC fans at those games
I probably need a new handle, but I'm too lazy to think of one
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Jan 6, 2011 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
haters wanna hate, lovers wanna love, I don't even want, none of the above
I want to piss on you Cuse
drip drip drip
High fives only on three pointers.
by TheYellofAllYells on Jan 6, 2011 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
WOW!
Dave Chappelle joke….Quite relevant!
Well, I guess if your team isn’t good, your jokes ar-……..
/oh
Born in '87, Orange fan since '86
by StealthTurkey on Jan 6, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
Wow Hoyas!
All the talk of pissing and farm animals, you would think this were a group of children instead of a sports blog.
Change the name of your blog to “Saturday,” you twerps have no class.
Born in '87, Orange fan since '86
We'll stop talking about farm animals
when Boeheim stops fucking goats.
by WallaceAtTheLineShooting2 on Jan 7, 2011 2:46 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Leave Goat out of this.
He is a great fan and one of the loudest people at any Caps game. You guys would kill for someone like him.
http://capitalsoutsider.com/2010/01/20/a-tribute-to-caps-superfan-goat/
Vox Pop Chimes In
Mex Carey:
"There was an overwhelming demand from Georgetown season ticket holders, donors and other Hoya fans. Because of this, the athletics department decided that individual game tickets for Syracuse would not be made available to the public," Carey wrote in an email to Vox.
The Cuse fans commenting on the Vox Pop piece
Are quite amusing.
Someone called “TexanMark” seems to think the last time we did a “Gray Out” was in Syracuse. And he seems to be proud of the fan behavior that the Cuse fans here are willing to criticize.
Someone called “John O.” seems to have ignored the entire post and simply parroted the Nunes argument.
What are these assertions!?
by DHB Enterprises on Jan 10, 2011 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
like the cuse fan said above...
“who cares what the reasons are for it,” is the general sentiment of cuse fans unwilling to accept the facts of the situation. georgetown sold georgetown tickets to georgetown fans.
why let logic get in the way of unwarranted outrage?
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Jan 10, 2011 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
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