Sleeping With The Enemy: The Wildcats of Villanova
Just three days ago, the idea of Georgetown having a shot in a game against Villanova in Philadelphia would have been as preposterous as someone saying that it could both snow and thunderstorm at the same time. Now, after Georgetown thrashed St. John's by 25 points and Villanova lost by 15 to Providence on Wednesday night, anything is possible. To whet your appetite for Saturday's showdown, we asked Chris Lane, the most casual blogger on The Nova Blog, to answer some of our questions. You can read our answers to his questions here. Chris, this Nantucket Nectar Half and Half is for you.
Villanova has had an interesting week. They go into the Carrier Dome and look like a Final Four team, and then they get blown out by Providence by 15. What gives?
Tell me about it. There was nothing to be ashamed losing to the UConn Kembas, and originally that looked like a phenomenal win over Syracuse (now looking weaker and weaker as they fall apart amidst Dion Waiters' dropping F-Bombs on Boeheim). Then we go to The Dunk (where we are apparently cursed) and get taken out behind the shed.
I think that being the 3rd straight game on the road, the team was drained. You could tell they were emotion-less and just kind of going through it. I think it will serve as a major wake up call and I'd expect a re-focused team on Saturday.
After The Jump, more fun facts from friendly folks.
Do you think the Providence game was a classic trap game, sandwiched between the Syracuse beatdown and an upcoming battle with Georgetown?
I don't really believe in trap games. Good teams don't lose the 'trap' game. Are we a good team? Yes, so, I can't call that a trap game. Like I said above, I think the team was just exhausted after all the traveling. Providence seems to be believing they can win games again too, so they caught us at the right time. It also doesn't help when you shoot 25% for the game.
Who does Villanova consider its biggest basketball rival?
This has been discussed a lot recently, and I think it totally depends on who you ask. For me, it's Georgetown and Syracuse at 1A and 1B, although I'd really like Pitt and us to be big rivals. I know they've got that thing with the hill people - but we could play the in-state rival angle.
At the end of the day, we absolutely hate you, 'Cuse, Pitt and UConn. I think all those schools feel the same way about each other. Not a bad Top 5.
What really happened between Scottie Reynolds and Corey Fisher last year? If you don't know the true story, make up a really juicy lie that we'll enjoy.
The pregnancy thing was not true in the least - and I still have no idea how it came to that. There was definitely an altercation in practice, though the exact details never surfaced. I've heard it involved a female, but again nothing confirmed. We'll go with Fisher wasn't happy about Reynolds' emotionless rendition 'basketball player that cares' and Reynolds didn't like how Fisher somewhat resembles a chipmunk.
Now that Reynolds has graduated, how is chemistry this year?
The best it's been since Dante Cunningham and Dwayne Anderson left. There are clearly-defined roles on the team and everybody knows that Fisher, Stokes and Pena are in charge, no exceptions. Most nights you can tell the guys are genuinely having fun out there and really like playing together and playing for each other. That's a winning recipe.
The JayVaughn Pinkston story seemed a little over the top. At other schools, a fight on a weekend would cost you a few extra sprints, but at Villanova the kid gets suspended for the year? Is he expected to be back next year?
I know the entire story and we were actually the first people to break the story as one of our writers was down at Villanova when it happened. I know both sides of the story and I will say this, he was provoked, but not by the kid he eventually punched. Wrong place, wrong time. I do think it was very harsh. I expected a multi-game suspension, but it appears they are making an example out of him.
He will be back next year by all accounts. He lives off-campus now, is working, and has been at every home game.
How little do you miss Taylor King this year? Was he the worst big time basketball recruit of all time? I have an unsettling amount of hate for that kid.
[Expletive deleted] Taylor King. I don't miss him at all. He brought so much crap into the program, and rumours swirled constantly about abuse problems and academic issues. Seirously dude, how [expletive deleted] hard is it to go to class, coast by, and NOT DRINK OR SMOKE DURING THE SEASON. You're a college basketball player for Christ's sake! It's just not that hard. Good riddance. Rant over. (Casual note - apparently we aren't the only ones with unsettling amount of hate for Taylor King)
What would mean more to you, a Villanova championship or an Eagles Super Bowl victory? Speaking of which, who do you think will win - Packers or Steelers?
If you ever insinuate that I am an Eagles fan ever again, I'm coming down to D.C. to find you. Big Blue baby. I was born and raised a New York fan. Which makes this last season especially tough to handle. God damn you DeSean Jackson. And go to hell Matt Dodge.
The Eagles NOT ever winning comes very close to Villanova actually winning a title.
We know about Corey Fisher and Maalik Wayns, but who is going to come out of nowhere and put up big numbers on Saturday that we aren't expecting?
Corey Stokes, because outside of Syracuse, he's been struggling lately. That makes you ripe for the pickin'. He usually loves the The Well, so I'd expect a barrage of 3's to resort you to drinking from the new BottomsUp beer taps.
Or I could see freshman James Bell going off for 10+ in garbage time to really run a dagger through your hearts.
We heard rumblings that Villanova fans were none too pleased with Greg Monroe attempting to run up the score last year in the Snowpocalypse Game last year. Were you offended as well?
I think I was in the middle of a Georgetown-slaughter-induced blackout by early in the 2nd half. I don't really remember. I do remember not liking Greg Monroe though, so let's run with this and just say yes. [Expletive deleted] you Greg Monroe for running up the score.
Who is the one player on Villanova you think you'd have the best chance to beat up in a fight?
Tough one. Do I get a weapon like a broken bottle or a rock? If we're talking purely Fight Club style, I have to go with Dallas Ouano. He's from the Jersey Shore, and from watching that show almost everybody there NEVER gets in a fight. They just stand and yell at each other and point and smirk. I'd have to hope he goes with that and I get get a quick one in there. 2nd pick would be Mouphtaou Yarou. Doesn't seem to have much of a mean streak. He'd pop me with a punch and I could play possum. He'd feel bad and let his guard down letting me to go into attack-mode.
I wouldn't want to fight Pinkston because he showed his former Golden Glove skills on that frat kid, or Wayns because he's so quick he'd treat me like a speed bag.
In the last week the Big East has turned upside down. Who ends up being the top four finishers?
Pitt will win the league, UConn in 2nd, Villanova in 3rd and right now, probably Notre Dame in 4th unless Syracuse can get it together. DePaul and South Florida will battle it out for the annual Draids award.
Complete this sentence: If Villanova gets to the [Insert Round of NCAA Tournament] I will be satisfied.
Final 4. Elite Eight will feel like a so close moment. So much depends on how you are playing that time of year though, so talk to me before the Big East Tournament.
Who do you think has the most annoying fan base in the Big East? Who has the hottest girls?
Most annoying is such a relative term these days. Villanova, Georgetown, UConn and Syracuse are really the only schools who I feel have a strong presence in social media, which is the main medium all of us communicate through. I'd say from personal experience at games, I cannot stand Rutgers and West Virigina fans. Georgetown and Syracuse I get along fine with because we can have a sense of humour about the whole thing. UConn are the worst over-30 fans.
West Virigina does get a vote for hottest girls though - all body and no brains. A beautiful thing.
Predict the outcome of Saturday's game. Who wins? What is the final score going to be?
Villanova will rebound and send the Hoyas reeling back to D.C. 78-71 behind the Corey's.
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Like a less eloquent JGD
In terms of rage-blackouts and pure, unadulterated hate. Dude would fit in as one of the Casualties if he had better taste in schools.
by J-Wall's Mom's Broom on Jan 28, 2011 9:20 AM EST reply actions
Much appreciated
I went to ‘Nova for soccer – there’s plenty I didn’t like about the school. I’m sure you could say the same for G’Town.
My father was a military man. Guess I wasn't such a 'good soldier.' Anyways, when I was 35 he attempted to give me a crew-cut while I was asleep. I woke up, broke his arm, haven't seen him since.
Both teams are going to come out fighting
and in top form… feel like this will be a close one.
I probably need a new handle, but I'm too lazy to think of one
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Jan 28, 2011 9:31 AM EST reply actions
It will be a very close game...
If ’Nova is getting to the line they will win.
Some players don’t have a high b-ball IQ (Fisher for example) and others register a 0.0. Taylor King’s b-ball IQ was around -100. I can’t “hate” him though: A.) Who doesn’t love a little drink and smokin’ a J?; and B.) He clearly is a bit of a troubled person with serious issues.
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 28, 2011 9:43 AM EST reply actions
Worst Fans
Worst fans are without a doubt West Virginia and Pittsburgh.
by WrightwithaMissedLayup on Jan 28, 2011 9:46 AM EST reply actions
agreed
West virgina ftw, never could stand those hicks
by onceahoya on Jan 28, 2011 10:02 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
They were oddly well-behaved this year
But generally they do their best to act like scum. I generally mistrust any fans from the appalachians and westward. Cuse wins the prize though – they seem to seep into everything.
by WarmupEwing on Jan 28, 2011 10:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Don't forget Notre Dame
Entitled fan base that cries every time someone says the word “Rudy”.
Pitt and West Virginia fans...
are saints compared to the Canadians in Syracuse
by VictorPage'sLeftEye on Jan 28, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
As a Canadian-born Hoya
I reject this insult to my people.
by clarinetsarethebest on Jan 28, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
SYRACUSE
why is this even up for discussion. fucking ’cuse
by BeerBottlesToTheFaceOfSyracuseFans on Jan 28, 2011 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Tarik's Preview
“It’s a confidence builder,” Clark said of his perfect shooting night. “I’ve been off lately, but I’ve stayed in the gym putting up shots. It’s important to stay with it, because we’re all shooters and we all know we can make shots.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/26/AR2011012608782_2.html
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
I think this one should be called
“Sleeping with the Nemesis”
Great read.
Why so Syracuse?
by HoyaJoker07 on Jan 28, 2011 10:39 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I just lost my coworker from Nova this week
It’s a true shame, because despite all the nemesisness, he’s the only colleague who actually follows college basketball with any degree of seriousness. Even the other hoop school alums are like “Oh, we won the national championship this weekend? I guess that’s to be expected. Don’t we win it every year?” The only other possibility would be the Terpies but they never have anything to contribute to the conversation.
So cheers to Chris, and Esteban and all the rest for sustaining this relationship.
Cheers...
At least we both hate ’Cuse. So, other than Saturday, the enemy of my enemy and such.
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 28, 2011 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Has anyone informed the Nova faithful
about the BUS OF DOOM that is heading their way?
by More like Awesome Freeman on Jan 28, 2011 12:12 PM EST reply actions
Scottie Reynolds
Hope he gets a break from his Springfield Armor Development League practice to watch the game.
As an older alum . . .
I do not see nearly enough hate for ’Nova on this page. Way too casual. We must always remember 1985 and ’Nova shooting 79% to steal it from us. The fuckers.
Having grown up in Philly
I hate Nova as much as I hate Cuse. Only fight I was ever in growing up was punching a Nova fan.
WHOA
You got in a girl fight?
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as another
philadelphia
’85 + they ruined the big 5 for years = major hate
but less than cuse hate
The Big 5 became...
the Big 1 and the little 4. Nova was like the kid from the old neighborhood that makes it and everyone resents it.
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 28, 2011 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
exactly the attitude that i'm talking about
traditions matter
The series ended in 91
The previous ten winners we’re pretty evenly distributed.
Nova wasn’t dominating. They felt losing to those teams sullied their national reputation and dropped it. .
1980–81 all tied 2–2
1981–82 SJU/TU tie 3–1
1982–83 Nova 3–1
1983–84 LaS/TU tie 3–1
1984–85 Nova 4–0
1985–86 SJU/TU tie 3–1
1986–87 TU 4–0
1987–88 TU 4–0
1988–89 LaS/TU 3–1
1989–90 LaS 4–0
Since Wright has taken over...
we’ve owned it. Tradition matters, but so does progress. Losing to the likes of LaSalle and St. Joe’s does sully your reputation. Losing to Temple doesn’t seem to hurt G’Town’s rep, so I guess we should play them year in and year out.
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 28, 2011 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
your're not making sence
Since Wright has taken over we’ve owned it would be an excuse to drop it NOW , not THEN.
If you’re afraid that losing to the likes of LaSalle and St. Joe’s does sully your reputation then prove you’re a national powerhose and beat them
..
grant it you are beating them now. jay loves the series and wouldn’t drop now
Please do not talk like that
To Esteban
My handle used to be Jeff Green's Dad, but it was confusing and creepy, namely because I am not his dad. My new handle is JGD. I am trim and in charge.
I think we should drop it now...
our focus on the Big East. We are a better basketball school than the other members and our strategy worked. There is no upside to playing LaSalle, St. Joe’s and Penn. A win does nothing for the RPI. Temple has a very good program and we should play them. I’d trade playing LaSalle, St. Joe’s and Penn for some better non-conference games.
Jay does loves the series and in some sense it has helped in recruiting (making deep runs in the NCAA tourney helps more). Nova made a move in the 90s and it worked. The others couldn’t keep up.
Why don’t you guys play GW every year? George Mason? American? Catholic?
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 28, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
if we're going to drop it fine
but don’t end with more questions.
we don’t play those guys because we havn’t. plus MD won’t play us. i’d love it if we did.
the move you made was when you joined the B.E.
end.
I like to end with questions...
don’t you?
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 28, 2011 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Georgetown should never come into contact with UMd
Unless forced to by the NCAA or other tournament (e.g., OSC). I’m disgusted to be in their presence.
by HoyaSmacksYa on Jan 28, 2011 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
We play American every now and then
We would have played GMU this year but were already playing a team from the CAA. Is Catholic even D1?
We don’t have a set schedule for local schools Have played Navy, Loyola, American, James Madison, Old Dominion over the last few years.
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Jan 28, 2011 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know about Catholic..
just throwing out DC schools that came to mind. I’d rather do what you guys do as respects the Philly area teams except Temple.
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 28, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Catholic the University is DIII
Catholic the religion is trending that way…Just kidding JC
Andy Rautins has AIDS
Yup.
The best part years later was that she couldn’t even get admitted into Nova the first time around.
Please, please tell us more
Like describe the entire thing
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It was 5th grade.
So it’s not entirely appropriate. But basically her whole family went to Nova, mine went to GU. I hated Kittles, she hated Iverson.
I don’t remember how it all started. Mostly a lot of name calling which erupted at recess. Definitely got a few blows in to her head under the monkey bars.
Did you win?
What did the Principal say?
How did your family react?
What was the next day like with her?
Are you still in touch?
My handle used to be Jeff Green's Dad, but it was confusing and creepy, namely because I am not his dad. My new handle is JGD. I am trim and in charge.
Of course I won.
1. Never got to the principal. Teacher handled it. Probably because my mom worked at my elem school and was he was an old family friend (or because he secretly hated Nova…at least that’s what I tell myself).
2. Family I’m sure was secretly proud.
3. Awkward. The GU-Nova game in Philly wasn’t long after. Luckily we were several sections apart and I saw an even better fight with a 50-something GU alum taking on several Nova students. (It was the game where many in the Nova student section were wearing orange jumpsuits.)
4. Not really. I mean we’re Facebook friends but that’s about it.
Must be something in the water...
My niece lives outside of Philly and a while back busted out her first public obscenity when a 2nd grade classmate belittled the Phillies in favor of the Yankees by saying (in front of the teacher) “The Yankees are PUSSIES — Whatever that means.”
"If Austin Freeman gets a pick at the hotel across the street, you go with him"
And me, If he asks I'll carry his luggage.
by PerryMcDonald'sRightCross on Jan 28, 2011 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
did you document it?
"Before the answer was a 3, I was down in Georgetown with a Hoya chick, lawyer chick....."
by brandonbowmansfootistoobig on Jan 28, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
the pinkston story-
here is my understanding of what went on – a few basketball players show up at a villanova frat party to hang out. apparently this frat doesnt much appreciate the kids on the team… they will root for villanova all the way, but with the frat kids feeling just as entitled to bmoc status as the bball l team they intentionally down play the bball team’s star status. so pinkston gets a female friend alone in the frat’s laundry room or someplace, and getting down to business he locks every door in. the frat gets annoyed their uninvited guest is taking over their house and commandeering rooms so they knock repeatedly and ask him to leave. pinkston refuses to open up until hes finished (reasonable i guess). the frat decides screw him so they locked the doors to the room from the outsid. when pinkston is finished and tries to leave no one moves too quickly to unlock the doors and let him out. at this point pinkston explodes, contacts his couple boys that came with him, and when he gets out the few of them absolutely beat the shit out of two or three kids in the frat. i know broken noses for sure. the frat kids immediately file a police report, go to the er etc., and then meet with the school on monday. the school urges the frat to keep the matter internal, but when the fraternity is about to be the one in trouble they go back to the police. pinkston got charged then (i think?) and all of this fall out happens. now, im positive i have several details completely untrue, but that is definitely the gist of the story. i’m not sure he was “provoked” to that degree or that his punishment was too “harsh” for what happened. im sure those kids had a very difficult time attending on campus job interviews with villanova degrees and noses bent at right angles.
I really have no problem with a couple entitled frat kids getting their asses kicked
Suspension for the entire season is obscene.
My handle used to be Jeff Green's Dad, but it was confusing and creepy, namely because I am not his dad. My new handle is JGD. I am trim and in charge.
agreed. punishment doesnt fit the crime
mess with a bull, you get the horns
mess w a golden gloover, expect those glooves to redecorate your face
young college men get into fights … its part of growing up and learning cost-benefit decision making. zero upside in provoking one of your hoopsters to kick your ass
... straight for a touchdown... I mean Rebound
by glackensghost on Jan 28, 2011 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
great line
its part of growing up and learning cost-benefit decision making.
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Jan 28, 2011 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
yes. fighting 2 guys blasted out of my mind cost me a broken nose
should have gone to Wendy’s
... straight for a touchdown... I mean Rebound
by glackensghost on Jan 28, 2011 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
I loved
JGD response on SWTE
question: If you steal one member of ’Nova who would it be? Who would they replace?
Jay Wright’s tailor. Then I will wrap him up and send him as a gift (tax-deductible, of course) to Bob Huggins.
+1, JGD
... straight for a touchdown... I mean Rebound
Seth Davis
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/seth_davis/01/28/weekend.picks/index.html
Apparently #7 vs #20 isn’t worthy of his time
My handle used to be Jeff Green's Dad, but it was confusing and creepy, namely because I am not his dad. My new handle is JGD. I am trim and in charge.
But man that Xavier-Richmond game
Talk about a MARQUEE matchup
My handle used to be Jeff Green's Dad, but it was confusing and creepy, namely because I am not his dad. My new handle is JGD. I am trim and in charge.
probably too hard to predict
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Jan 28, 2011 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
He went to Duke...
it explains everything.
Opulence, I has it.
by Esteban d' Amur on Jan 28, 2011 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Is there a line on the game yet?
My work blocks me from perusing gambling sites :(
I probably need a new handle, but I'm too lazy to think of one
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Jan 28, 2011 5:12 PM EST reply actions
Nova -6
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wow, gotta take Gtown and the points on that one
I probably need a new handle, but I'm too lazy to think of one
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Jan 28, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
I've see
Nova -4.5 at usatoday and -5 at vegas.com
Still gotta take us and the points. Free money!
by iheartgregmonroe on Jan 28, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
Line moved down
Because so much money thrown at Gtown
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