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MonroeWatch2K10: In Defense of Greg Monroe

Welcome to June, the month of the NBA Draft.  We're merely a few weeks away from finding out where Greg Monroe will be beginning his NBA career, so what better way to begin the month that will produce an avalanche of hyperbole than with a completely biased look at our recently departed #10. 

I keep reading articles about Greg Monroe by perceived "draft gurus" and I keep getting annoyed.  When I google his name one of the first things that pops up is Greg Monroe Body Fat.  This also annoys me.  I figured I should use this outlet to give people an idea about Greg Monroe from someone that well, um, actually watched him play, rather than read his body fat percentage and jumped to conclusions.

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Read more ranting about Greg Monroe after The Jump.

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Almost everything you read about Greg Monroe's personality is wrong.  People question his heart, passion, and ability to take over a game.  There were very few times in his Georgetown career that I questioned the same.  It's becoming laughable that six seasons into John Thompson III's tenure at Georgetown, NBA scouts still say the exact same things about every lottery-bound player entering the draft from the school.  First it was Jeff Green's perceived heart, then Roy Hibbert's, now Greg Monroe's.  I assume at some point it will click that Thompson has smart, well rounded, hard working basketball players that don't need to make Kobe Bryant's jutted out nonsense face to show that they care about winning and care about the game.  Each of the three aforementioned players have gotten significantly better year-by-year since they have been in college and then the pros.  

That rant leads me to my next point, I think outside of John Wall, Monroe will end up being the best professional player of this year's class.  DeMarcus Cousins is more talented, but he's too big of a liability in the mold of Derrick Coleman and Zach Randolph.  He's arguably the biggest genetic freak to come out of college since Shaq, yet his own state's university wouldn't even recruit him.   Derrick Favors is Tyrus Thomas 2.0, a great athlete without much sense for the game of basketball.  And please don't mention Ed Davis - he's a watered down version of Monroe, but more injury prone.

I assume John Wall will go #1 and Evan Turner will follow at #2.  That's fine.  It's on the Nets to decide between Cousins, Favors and Monroe.  In Monroe, you get the best passing big man to come out of college since Tim Duncan and a solid citizen who will mesh well with Brook Lopez and Devin Harris.  If NBA GMs took any notes from Oklahoma City's meteoric rise this year, it's that chemistry matters.  Sam Presti built the team around guys like Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, Jeff Green and James Harden - all of whom are high character individuals.  Granted, it helped that Durant led the league in scoring, but that is a minute detail damnit.

New Jersey could run one of the most unique offenses in the league with Lopez on the block, Monroe playing point forward at the top of the key, and Harris and Chris Douglas-Roberts slashing off the wings.  I don't believe Cousins or Favors offer them the same option.  The Nets would be getting Monroe, who at 6'11", measures like a center but plays like a small forward.  He is Lamar Odom without the candy addiction or the ugly Kardashian sister.  DeMarcus Cousins is Zach Randolph plus 30 pounds of weight less 4,000 pounds of marijuana.

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Lamar's wife.  Woof.  Sorry Kim, still love you.

Greg Monroe, like Roy Hibbert and Jeff Green before him, will continue to get better.  He could have been a lottery pick after his freshman year, but decided he wasn't ready to contribute at the NBA level, and came back to Georgetown.  He went from averaging 12, 6 and 2 as a freshman to 16, 10 and 4 as a sophomore.  That seems like a good improvement to me. He also averaged 34 minutes a game, for those concerned with his body fat and conditioning.  Just for comparison's sake, Cousins averaged 15, 10 and 1 while playing 24 minutes per game.  Favors averaged 12, 8 and 1 while playing 28 minutes a game.  Oh, and Monroe played in the Princeton offense, which isn't known for particularly gaudy individual statistics.  But again, what are numbers and tangible results when we can talk about jumpabiity, body fat percentages and wingspans, right?

Ultimately, the decision comes down to actual results vs. perceived upside.  Greg Monroe vs. DeMarcus Cousins is similar to a decision NFL scouts had 12 years ago with Peyton Manning and Ryan Leaf.  Did I just compare Greg Monroe to arguably the greatest QB of this generation?  THAT JUST HAPPENED.  I think it's time for me to drink some warm milk, calm myself down, and go back to sleep.

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A source with the Hornets told me the team will try to trade up to grab Monroe. The problem is that there’s no telling how high they’ll have to move at this point, since Monroe makes sense for the Nets at 3, the Kings at 5, the Warriors at 6, the Pistons at 7, the Clippers at 8, the Jazz at 9, and the Pacers at 10.

Casually.

by CasualHoya on Jun 1, 2010 9:51 AM EDT reply actions  

3 seems a bit high

It’s tough to see the Nets pulling the trigger at 3 though I see the argument for it. This is still the NBA and they’ll be enamored with Favors and Cousins, likely pushing Monroe to 5. Aside from living in a worthless city like Sacramento, he’d be coming into a pretty good spot, particularly if Tyreke Evans elects to pass the ball some more.

Casual is a big fan of Omri Casspi

by itsallthatmatters on Jun 1, 2010 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Comments from Nets blog NetsDaily.com
With all of the Cousins v. Favors talk on this site Greg Monroe has gotten lost in the shuffle. Of the top three PF/ Cs coming out this year, Monroe is probably the most NBA ready and could give IMMEDIATE major contributions to a team like the Nets. I have to admit that Monroe’s slight build is a concern for me in the pros, but it’s my only concern. And that can be addressed with the great strength coach the Nets have. If I had to choose b/t the three best PF’s available, I’m choosing Monroe, ‘cuz frankly neither Favors nor Cousins excites me, and I don’t think either player will make a huge impact in his rookie year.

P.S. – the writeup in the link was excellent! Though I hope you’re not a fan of the "other" Kardashian sister.
by Morph on Jun 1, 2010 10:06 AM EDT reply actions
. I love Greg Monroe. I wouldn’t take him over Cousins (both of them have the skills and polished game, Monroe is soft, and Brook-Greg could be too much of a finesse tandem, Cousins would provide the nastiness we need), but I’d def trade down, nab Monroe and pick up some additional pieces in the process rather than draft Favors with the 3rd pick.
by Andres B on Jun 1, 2010 10:31 AM EDT reply actions
.what about his defense??? by NJQuestCat on Jun 1, 2010 12:28 PM EDT reply actions

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Good shot-blocker strong rebounder and taught under JT3. He has all of the offensive and defensive fundamentals and is a better athlete and ball-handler/ passer than Cousins, IMO. Again, his only drawback is strength, which could be improved upon under Dalatri (sp).
by Morph on Jun 1, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions

I actually like the possibility of playing him next to Brook… I’ve seen a few of him games this year and I really do like his passing ability as a PF. I think he’d be a nice fit next to Brook given his great BBIQ and ability to create his own shot as a PF…something that Favors is not really capable of.

If Turner is set at for Philly @ 2, it wouldn’t be a bad idea to trade down from 3 to 4 with Minnesota, grab Love/ Rubio if possible and then pick up Monroe.

I believe he’ll at least go @ 5 to the Kings. Given his good attitude and ability to play as 3, 4, or 5….I think they’d like him over Wes Johnson or Aminu.

He seems like the type of guy who can become a good defensive player just from seeing him speak.
by NJQuestCat on Jun 1, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions
I actually really liked the post, and I would be fine with trading down to take Monroe, and then add a PF in free agency like Amare. That’s the length that we need
by SadNetsFan on Jun 1, 2010 1:21 PM EDT reply actions

Casually.

by CasualHoya on Jun 1, 2010 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

You mentioned OKC

As a fan of both the Hoyas and the Thunder throughout high school now, I think a comparison of Durant and Monroe (in character not skillset or ability) is revealing. Both are usually quiet, humble individuals, who lead by example. But most striking is their usual lack of expression on the court, until their team needs emotion. Watching both teams, many times I would see Durant make an emphatic play without hyping himself, or Monroe make an insane momentum-swinging pass without a word. I value this more than any kind of posturing and arrogance LBJ attempts. And it makes the rare occasion when they do beat their chests and roar, overwhelmed by the emotion, that much more visceral, creating a truly vicarious experience.

by JoCro on Jun 1, 2010 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

well said

I felt the same way about Jeff Green (at Georgetown, not so much with the Thunder)

I can have oodles of charm when I want to.

by aja32 on Jun 2, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

As a Sacramento Kings fan

AND a fan of Greg Monroe (and Roy Hibbert, and a few other Hoyas in the NBA). I have a question.

Greg takes a lot of flack for his perceived lack of defensive ability. His averages for steals and blocks are both above 1.5 showing that he has at least some comprehension of Defense (timing, defensive IQ etc.)

I was curious to get your take here at Casual Hoya.

Thanks!

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by lifestyleforthesellout on Jun 16, 2010 3:19 AM EDT reply actions  

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