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Mixed Opinions About David Cox's Departure from Georgetown

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It's official, Georgetown assistant coach David Cox is heading to Rutgers.  Rutgers fans are delighted, and they have every right to be.  After years of withering in the Big East cellar, there is hope on the horizon for the Scarlet Knights.  Consider this, Rutgers has not made the NCAA Tournament since 1991 and has not won a Tournament game since 1983.  The team finished in sole possession of 14th place in the Big East this year, its highest finish in four years.  There is normally not much to cheer about in Piscataway, except when you beat the #8 Hoyas on your home court, but new head coach Mike Rice has invigorated the Rutgers faithful. Rice's hiring combined with rumors of Big Ten acceptance have fans excited about the future of Rutgers athletics for the first time in recent and not-so-recent memory.  And the just-announced hiring of David Cox falls in place with this new exuberance.  Jerry Carino, a Jersey sports columnist and blogger, marvels at Cox's resume, stating:

Cox's resume is impressive for its breadth. He spent seven years as an assistant principal at his alma mater, St. John's Prep in Washington, D.C., where he was in charge of athletics, activities and discipline from 1999-2006. Prior to that he coached at D.C. high school power Archbishop Carroll for three seasons and also was an assistant with the Washington D.C. Assault AAU program, which captured the Under-16 national title in 2004.

(More on Cox after the Jump)

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Comments by fans to Carino's column includes phrases like "smart guy" to describe Cox and "great choice" about the decision to hire him.  There is a sense of elation at Scarlet Nation, knowing that with Cox comes access to big recruits.  And with big recruits come bigger recruits.  And then comes Calipari and even bigger recruits.  And then come the NCAA sanctions.  Got off topic there, I digress.

You would think that the excitement felt by Rutgers fans should counter the disappointment felt by Hoya fans, assuming coaching turnover is a zero-sum game, but that is not the case.  There are some Georgetown fans that are actually rejoicing in the news that Cox is leaving.  The gents over at Hoya Balla titled the post announcing Cox's move to Rutgers "Merry Christmas."  Is this just sour grapes or is there more to it?

Some believe that Cox really didn't bring anything to the Hoyas, and that his AAU connections weren't as deep as advertised.  Others thought he took too long to start performing, and proposed that there were chemistry problems between Thompson and Cox.  There is certainly some truth to this, the first DC Assault recruit Cox landed, Jordan Goodman, would not have reached the Hilltop until 2012.

Not all fans feel this way, however, and some defend Cox by saying that the Big John / Curtis Malone dispute was too burdensome to overcome. They content that Cox was in a helpless position where he could not maximize his recruiting potential, but was still able to develop a great rapport with recruits, like Roscoe Smith.  There is definitely truth to this as well, as Cox was actively involved in the recruitment of several major prospects in the Class of 2011.

So which camp is right?  It doesn't matter.  The legacy Cox leaves at Georgetown is irrelevant at this point.  What the Hoyas have to deal with now is what should concern people.  Despite its recent success on the court, Georgetown does not have the budget to hire a big name assistant coach, or even match the significant pay raise Cox was probably offered by Rutgers.  McDonough has become a revolving door; at the end of five out of the last six seasons under Thompson, a player has transferred or a coach has been fired or lured away.  Yes, change is good, but consistency is also comforting.

We are now left with the same question we were asking one year ago: who should be the next Georgetown assistant?  Our sources indicate that Darryl Prue will be named the next assistant coach, but probably not for a while, since Georgetown first has to acknowledge that Cox left.  Is Prue the right choice for the Hoyas?  He has worked with Thompson and Georgetown in numerous capacities over the years, has both coaching and playing experience, and has local ties in DC.  Or is there a more experienced coach we can go after?  Is Kenya Hunter ready for the head assistant spot?  Will there be more departures amongst Thompson the Third's staff and/or team?  How will recruiting be effected?  These are all questions we should concern ourselves with now, because the past has passed and Midnight Madness will be here sooner than we think.

Good talk.

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I’m in the camp that this is a mixed blessing. The DC Assault pipeline is never going to happen while Curtis is alive. We already have some players from assault on our roster Austin and Julian so it’s not like we’ll never get an assault player after all Julian came to the hoyas after the beef over Jeff Green went down. I just think it’s pointless to have an assistant who’s main tie is to that program. There’s a lot more talent in DC than just on the Assault team. We need local guys with ties to the area. Prue apparently has that. In addition JTIII has ties to the area and Hunter is from arlington. I think we’ll be fine.

I’m of the belief that Cox did not pull his weight on the recruiting front. JTIII is our main recruiter. He’s the one who lands the big fish. The only recruit Cox ever successfully landed was Goodman and with him leaving most likely Goodman will too. There have been reports that he did not represent the universtiy well on the trail having been described as " his body language is poor and almost unprofessional. He looks outright bored to me. When I think of the persona of our Coach, then I see Taub it is clear that there is a material difference in presentation." and "Omg….I saw that fool at Peach Jam looking the same way, My first thought was, “what a poor representation of the school.” He was slumped in his chair, yawning all day long, fighting the boredom and looking like he was mad at the world. Absolute loser who brings NOTHING to the table."

So far as I can tell past recruits he was involved with were Tony Mitchell, Latavious Williams, and Roscoe Smith. Apparently according to you guys he was involved with moses, but it seems JT2 and JT3 closed the deal on that. Of our 2009 and 2010 classes the one’s he had a chance to be a part of Lubick, Starks, and hollis were already on board before him so perhaps he helped with Vee or Benimon. According to Rivals JTIII was the main recruiter on Bowen at that’s what it says on his profile.

However as of late he seemed to have been more involved in recruiting especially for 2011 including our biggest target Rakeem Christmas. People like Christmas and Johnson who we’ve been on for a while and who have met with coach likely we will still be fine with, but we may need to make up some ground we had already made.

I think in the future we’ll be better off. I think we can hire an assistant who brings more to the table than he did.

by hoyasincebirth on May 14, 2010 9:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Goodman

There were rumors (especially on the MD boards) that he wouldn’t have been able to qualify in the first place, that he was a freebie from Assault to give Cox credibility.

The Freeman recruitment is remarkable because he was both Dematha and Assault.

Good talk.
Casual Hoya

by Hire Esherick on May 14, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

though I'd like to see one of the below be the next assistant:

jon wallace
alonzo mourning
dikembe mutombo
kevin broadus

Casually.

by CasualHoya on May 14, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd love for JWall

to study at III’s knee for a decade or two and then take over. And then, hopefully, avoid a debacle of Esherickian proportions.

KBE

by SirHoya on May 14, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

This doesn't seem like a devastating loss

But the university needs to pony up the money to make sure JTIII can keep the guys around him that he wants to.

by tjm62 on May 14, 2010 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

completely off topic

and apologies if this has already been discussed – but is Julian working the door at Rhino these days? Passed by there on the way home tonight, and I swear it was #swagman checking ids.

KBE

by SirHoya on May 14, 2010 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

he is

swagman is swagging the IDs at rhinos

by TheDoctorIsIn on May 14, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

casual locks

Where are my winning preakness picks??

by iheartgregmonroe on May 15, 2010 12:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

perspective from wrigh

Cwright_4 #wordofadvice don’t commit to a college because of a coach, they come n go all the time, its a business!! #imjusayin

Good talk.
Casual Hoya

by Hire Esherick on May 15, 2010 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Cox

David Cox was the Assistant Principal at Wright’s HS.

by The Ambassador on May 16, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

not to mention

wright only came here after he de-committed from NC state due to the coaching situation

by glue on May 16, 2010 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Cox seems to be working out for Rutgers

Just pulled in former DC assault player Tyree Ghram.

Nolan smith had this to say about Cox:
My bro tyreeg3 going to Rutgers along with my favoriteDCAssault coach of all time! David Cox Congrats!!

It’s kind of annoying that Assault black listed us so much that even one of the most popular coaches from their program couldn’t get players to Georgetown.

by hoyasincebirth on May 20, 2010 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

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