Recruiting In The One-And-Done Era
Marquis Teague, a 5-star point guard and the number 2 rated player in the class of 2011, is announcing his college choice today at a 1:30 p.m. EDT press conference. This particular announcement has no specific bearing on Georgetown as we never really recruited him and he is choosing between Kentucky and Louisville (and is expected to pick the Wildcats). But after reading this post from Card Chronicle, I couldn't help but see the parallels between Louisville's recruiting difficulties and our own.
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I really suggest reading the whole article, because it's a pretty realistic look at college recruiting in the current landscape and, most likely, going forward. The key point, though, is that coaches are hired to win basketball games and make deep NCAA tournament runs, but the focus for coaches like Pitino and JTIII is clearly on the team and long term growth of the program, while coaches like Calipari focus more on highlighting the individual talent, which is more intriguing to guys who are focused on their NBA future.I also don't think its irrational for the Knight/Gilcrist/Teague level players to realize they would rather have a system that shows off their individual skills for potential multi-million-dollar-a-year employers than one in which everyone plays less minutes, there is less emphasis on individual scoring and more emphasis on team/winning. It's not like they aren't still going to win a ton of games at UK. It's not like they are going to Depaul or St. Louis. But they are going to a system that wins with an offense designed to highlight their individual skills, and a system that gives its best players tons of minutes. They play aggressive man-to-man defense because they are really athletic, but they aren't going to get pulled if their man scores.
One-and-done guys are not what Pitino is really looking for and are just not the best fits for Pitino's system. Teague was the exception because of his family history, and apparently Blackshear has the same work ethic/team mentality that may make him fit if he doesn't jump ship in the next 12-18 months, which is a lot of time to be worried about as history has shown us. The 2011-2012 team will still be really good, with a couple of 4-stars ending up here, including guys we've probably not even thought about yet. But it will probably not be relying on superstar freshman to deliver us our fist championship in 25+ years. Recruiting is the lifeblood of a program, but as we saw this year, it does not guarantee anything.
If you wanted to play in the NBA and it was clear that you were a one-and-done, and you had the last 3-4 years as your frame of reference, and especially you saw this last season at UK and knew that you had a chance to have that same sort of season because of the other 5-star, one-and-done guys that were going to UK, and you had Lebron calling and telling you about how much money John Wall was going to make as a part of Lebron's stable, would you really have to think that hard about this decision?
Obviously, I have a hard time, as most of us will, with the comparison between Pitino and JTIII, because, well, I love JTIII and generally despise Pitino, but the truth of the matter is that purely from a coaching standpoint there are similarities. They both run systems that are complicated and take work to learn and neither system makes a lot of sense for one-and-done type players, because they are about working as a team and there is little focus on individual talent.
My point isn't really to compare us to Louisville or JTIII to Pitino, to argue who the better coach is or argue who has it tougher. I also don't want to complain about the system the JTIII uses, the job he is doing recruiting (which has been good) or the focus that he has for the program, because he's still managed to win his share of games and has even had a number of players go to the NBA. The post just brings up an interesting issue that Georgetown will have to overcome on the recruiting front going forward (something they've done a very good job of so far in my eyes). Greg Monroe was a notable exception to all of this, but players like Greg (in status, not actual game and work ethic) will continue to get more difficult for us to recruit going forward because of the flash that places like Kentucky can offer. None of this is particularly new, of course, but it remains interesting and obviously, is something to think about as the summer goes along.
Stay Casual, my friends.
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good post
schools like kentucky are going to have to face the question of whether they value lottery picks over national championships, because as this year’s squad demonstrated it’s often impossible to win the whole thing with a group of ‘one and done’ players.
i’m just fine with jt3 bringing in a group of players who may not have the hype surrounding them coming out of high school like monroe so long as the group meshes well and produces results on the court. i have to trust that jt3 and the staff know what they are doing in bringing in guys like lubick, starks, bowen, abraham, etc. all of these guys are likely to be at georgetown for 3+ years and hopefully will find the right chemistry to bring some seriosu hardware to mcdonough and not just a framed nba jersey.
Casually.
Agree completely
Star power is no guarantee of National Championships and I love the type of players that JTIII brings in.
"It was almost like if Harry didn't call it, it wasn't real." - Jayson Stark
SB Nation
by Chris Haines on Apr 22, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
If UK keeps fielding multiple lottery picks
They’ll eventually win it all. Yes, anything can happen in the post-season. Ohio can even beat Georgetown. That means that a team of NBA superstars will ultimately have that opportunity also.
And how often does ANYONE win a national championship? I’d be willing to say that if Calipari fielded 10 teams like this, he’s at least get 1-2 national championships. And who wouldn’t be satisfied (or even ecstatic) with 1-2 championships over that span? UNC? Give me a break.
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Good comparison and also a nice link at Card Chronicle, those bastards.
by James Kannengieser on Apr 22, 2010 12:30 PM EDT reply actions
Teague To Kentucky
"It was almost like if Harry didn't call it, it wasn't real." - Jayson Stark
SB Nation
i dont mind not getting mcd all americans
if it means they dont leave after a year.
gtown has never had a one and done. interesting.
Good talk.
Twitter Stalking reveals
Quinn Cook and Johny O’Bryant saying (not sure how seriously) that they would like to go to the same school along with Rakeem Christmas (who has been demure about that idea). All three of those guys only share one school in their list of top schools… Gtown.
My doublestuffed oreos fell on the floor of my mom's basement. Save me swagman!
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Apr 22, 2010 5:11 PM EDT reply actions
Going to be great when all these guys have a couple years under JT3 system and are ready to destory everyone
FIVE YEARS FROM NOW
Casually.
yes I'm sure none of our 3 top 20 recruits would be one and done
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by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Apr 22, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
For those with out twitter here's the relevant tweets
QCook323
I’m interested to see where my bro’s @hooprdie11 and @rakeemchristmas gonna go. I’m trynna go w/ them. RiP DAD!
natelubick
@QCook323 and @rakeemchristmas yoU two byuuums already know what I’m bOut to say to this
hoopordie11
RT @QCook323 I’m interested to see where my bro’s @hooprdie11 and @rakeemchristmas gonna go. I’m trynna go w/ them. RiP DAD! Let’s do it!!!
RakeemChristmas
@natelubick ya I kno wat ur bout to say bro
That class would be so siiiick.
Someone better let the coaching staff know all these guys want to play together and use that in their pitch.
earlier QCook had a similar tweet
which also added Tony Wroten & James McAdoo and Rakeem Christmas said “EWWWW”
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by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Apr 22, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
right, which is hopefully why Rakeem went EWWW
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by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Apr 22, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
who needs assistants
let recruits recruit each other
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Apr 23, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Ok folks it's our chance to impact recruiting :)
Natelubick:
Attention all Georgetown Hoya fans, please follow @AlexMurphy5 he says he will committ if we get him up to 200 fans in 2 days!
it can’t hurt to try
that is pretty silly
FYI: Gtown isnt even on his top schools list.
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=77055&season=2012&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d77055%26season%3d2012
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by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Apr 23, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Says Georgetown is involved.
Although his bro plays at Fla. I like Lubick already though.
georgetownfrontlawn.com
Let's not get carried away
All season-ticket holders are by NCAA definition boosters and are forbidden from recruiting prospects.
Manley Field House is officially closed!

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