Trap Game Blues: South Florida Beats Georgetown 72-64
Remember all those good feelings about Georgetown basketball after beating Duke? Remember how Georgetown lost to South Florida four days later? Well that JUST HAPPENED. South Florida beat Georgetown at home 72-64.
Many scapegoats in this game. Greg Monroe picked up two fouls in 10 seconds, rendering him useless for 10 minutes while South Florida clawed their way back. Austin Freeman decided to turn into Fat Sophomore Austin Freeman for 18 minutes of the second half. Chris Wright scored in single digits and missed a 3 pointer with 3 minutes left that would have tied the game. The Hoyas are now 1-5 when Wright scores under 10 points. Don't be fooled by Monroe and Freeman's gaudy statistics, both of them played like garbage. Georgetown shot 11-22 from the foul line, including 3-7 from Monroe, 3-5 from Freeman and 2-4 from Wright.
Now for the students. I made this abundantly clear in the game thread, but as fans of the #7 team in the country, you should be ashamed of yourselves. If we are going to be an elite team, we need an elite fanbase. For you to not show up to one of our last five home games is laughable. You are not a fan if you only show up for games against ranked teams, you are a front running douche bag. And the you I am referring to is every single student that has season tickets and couldn't take two hours out of a Wednesday night to support your college basketball team. It's not finals time, it's not midterm time, it's a random Wednesday night. I've been to college, it's not that hard. The reason these games turn into trap games is because not only the players are resting on their laurels, but the fans are as well. 3 of the 4 classes on Georgetown's campus lived through last year, know how much it sucked, and still couldn't show up for one of the last 5 games they could see in person. You pay approximately $10 dollars a game to see one of the top 10 (not tonight) teams in the country from 15 rows away. Alumni like myself pay $50 for one game to have the last seat in the house. And if you want to say you aren't that big of a fan and that basketball isn't that big of a deal, go to an Ivy League school or one of the NESCAC schools.
All of this doesn't excuse the players. Besides Vee Sanford and Jerrelle Benimon, you have all lived through last year. You know what happened after we beat UConn and Syracuse last year. You know not to rest on your laurels. If you think you are "bringing it back" to the '80s era or 2007 and 2008 you need to show up every game - that means Duke and South Florida alike.
We have no chance of winning the Big East regular season, we have no chance at a #1 seed, we have no chance of winning 6 straight games in the NCAA tournament, and at this point this team is almost as Jekyll and Hyde as last year's team.
Villanova is next on Saturday. I assume both the players and students will show up for that one because they are ranked.
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i have never been so ashamed of my alma mater
not because of the team – losses happen and they play hard
not because of the alums – because they were there
but because of the students – we dont deserve a top 25 program with the pathetic showing tonight
Good talk.
I agree with you both......
just shameful……
Imagine if Syracuse or Villanova fans were watching……(and they both have football programs to go watch as well)……
Look for Jahidi and me each buried in a ditch off the NJ Tpke on Saturday early morning in the snow…..while the students enjoy their Starbucks Frappuccino in the Fishbowl in Lauinger…. (yes, with popped collars)
by MerlinWilson'sSister on Feb 3, 2010 9:38 PM EST reply actions
Ugh
Last year was my senior year, and I went to every home game. (Maybe if we jus win THIS one….). This was pathetic.
I rushed the court on January 21st, 2006
by aja32 on Feb 3, 2010 9:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions
heaps the pressure on Saturday
as if there wasn’t enough already.
Refs were bad, team was worse…students were non-existent. First half I said that we seemed to be focused…second half was pathetic. BAH…terrible.
well, now I have a great reason to hate USF. F*CK
High fives only on three pointers.
by TheYellofAllYells on Feb 3, 2010 9:59 PM EST reply actions
Shocked and apalled!
The moment I walked into the student section the silence was deafening.
I saw a few of the underclassmen I knew at the game sitting high up. When I asked them why, they said “we don’t need to stand for South Florida. We’ll stand for Duke and the like but not South Florida.”
That is the attitude that was pervasive tonight. I’m not nearly as sickened by the piss poor performance on the court (or the cackling USF harpies in the 200s) than I am by the way the student fan base was.
I, with other alumni, were standing the entire game, most of us in work shoes that are as comfortable as cold concrete.
I’m going to put those feet up, poor a stiff glenlivet, and call it a night. I doubt I’ll feel any better about this in the morning.
by Cubbies and Hoyas on Feb 3, 2010 10:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
5 Points
1)Wright needs to contribute. Bull shit to those who say he is a mid-season MVP over Monroe or Freeman. The reason we lose every time he doesn’t score in double digits is because he isn’t contributing. Monroe and Freeman don’t have the “off” games like he does.
2) G-town student fans, you sucked tonight. When I was a freshman, we sucked (no where near being a top 10 team), yet I still went to every single game. No one was at the game tonight. USF was not a team to take lightly (especially after beating Pitt). The old lady on the dance cam with the sweet sweater vest got the loudest cheers at the Verizon Center tonight.
3) Jones is awesome. He carried USF tonight, and in their game against Pitt. You can’t hate on him. He has been dropping big numbers (140 points in the last 4 games), at home and on the road.
4) I like the Princeton offense (nothing I love more than a good passing game), but you can’t force it. We need to work on another offense. New offense: get the ball to Monroe inside and let him make a strong move (and Monroe- please become 80% from the FT line) Quick rant from the Syracuse game…dribble penetrate! You can’t just pass the ball around outside the arc and expect their zone to collapse.
5) Our bench needs to learn how to put up some points or else we are going to lose close games. Especially vs. teams like Villanova with such an EXTENSIVE bench…their bench can win them games.
We can’t dwell on the loss, but let’s hope this serves as a little motivation for our match-ups against Nova and WV.
by DoTheHollisHustle on Feb 3, 2010 10:08 PM EST reply actions
#4
that was our offense until monroe started passing the ball out early in the second half
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Feb 3, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
Agree with all your points
As mentioned below, I really think we should have played Henry Sims tonight. We needed someone to play with some energy and Wright wasn’t providing any nor were the absent students (I couldn’t hear the SAXAs being chanted)
It's not me, It's you
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Feb 3, 2010 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
This team will lose every game
that they are content with taking only jumpers and not attacking the basket
Blip
by JahidiLikesPie on Feb 4, 2010 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
Jones...
Not that we could stop the kid, but he was a foul machine that never was called. His hands were all over us like stink on a stripper. No excuse for the loss though. Second half was piss poor excution and emotion… never win in first 20. Can’t blame fans either, should win with no one there. Think you could get someone to show up win your ranked 7 though….uuuggggghhhhh
Do you think...
…there are even undergrads who know that the GLOBAL PHENOMENON exists? Utterly, utterly, shameful. I’ll save the player commentary until I can think rationally (slightly less drunk) tomorrow, but let’s stay with the student-bashing.
You guys kind of suck, and I’m not saying my class is much better. But I mean just do the real fans a favor and don’t show up for the big games if you can’t pull for your #7 team in a conference game in February. If you are a senior, it means you were a freshman when this team went to the Final Four…way to show your colors.
There’s a reason why Cuse fans dig on us because we are preppy fair-weather fans…it’s because 75% of the people at the Duke game are.
And let me call out the young alums on this one too…let’s face it, if you graduated between ‘05-’09, chances are 50+% of you are still in town. What, are you not a basketball fan anymore? Is it because you just love doing your law school homework on the couch? Lame!
I have never been so proud
Not of this school’s shitty undergrads, but of JGD’s wise, wise words. All from the Channel is forgiven. You are my modern day Lincoln. LET NOT HOYAS BY THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE, PERISH FROM THIS EARTH.
by lordnick on Feb 3, 2010 10:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I think that lordnick and JGD are the same person...
like Clark Kent and Superman…has anyone seen these two in the same place at the same time????
by MerlinWilson'sSister on Feb 3, 2010 10:25 PM EST reply actions
Agree with the sentiments...
would peg this loss on a couple of factors:
1. Chris Wright- he is the motor that energizes this team. When the team is flat and listless (as it was the entire game- even when we were up by 12) he is the person who should be blamed. He really didnt play with the energy that the team needs from him. He played like Chris Wright of last year, and that’s scary. He is our MVP in the sense that if he is the player the team relies on most. When he comes out flat, so do we.
2. Monroe & Vaughn- completely failed to establish any kind of inside defensive presence. USF kept getting easy baskets and these two played tired defense with Monroe fouling because he wasn’t energetic enough to stay in position.
3. JT3- did not get the team ready and energized and focused for this game. The team came out flat and never got focused and efficient the way they need to be. That’s at least partly the coach’s fault. Also, we stayed in a zone defense that just wasn’t working. Last, this may be crazy, but I think he should have played Henry Sims. The team could have used his energy to come up with some big blocks or dunks to energize it and get it going. And face it, he couldn’t have played any worse than Vaughn.
It's not me, It's you
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Feb 3, 2010 10:26 PM EST reply actions
He even got a new haircut for this one...
I agree. Sims should’ve seen the floor at some point. Benimon and Thompson get plenty of minutes but their “hey, I do well on defense sometimes and pass the ball” act is getting real old. Henry clearly still has some fire in him. If SFU can go to their crappy bench, why can’t we?
we should clearly blame the support for the team some...
High fives only on three pointers.
by TheYellofAllYells on Feb 3, 2010 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
lets not blame the students too much
Everything was bad, including the refs, the students, and lets not forget the team too, including every player but the ROCK Austin Freeman.
Time to get ready for Villanova in snowy DC
High fives only on three pointers.
by TheYellofAllYells on Feb 3, 2010 10:37 PM EST reply actions
blame the students a lot
energy in arena stems from student section.
tonight was pathetic
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Feb 3, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
yeah the team had no energy for the whole game
and that was the single reason we lost.
Only Austin played somewhat ok, and even he had some careless turnovers that hurt the team
It's not me, It's you
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Feb 3, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
agree completely
that it was a pathetic showing…truly awful…you couldn’t even hear the saxa or the georgetown from the other side of the stadium. But we did not play well. No excuses…beat nova to save the god damned season.
High fives only on three pointers.
by TheYellofAllYells on Feb 3, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Wow...the photo
Are you SERIOUS!!?? That was the student section??!!
I did not see the game but looking at the stats it is hard to see that we lost by so much except the turnover margin (and foul margin but that is normal).
I DO think Chris Wright needs to take some heat for his inconsistency. But again, I was not there…….
With paranoia,
that was the other side of the student section
The Verizon center fills up one side and then fills up the other side, so that picture was of the sparser side, probably in the last minute when some of the fair weather fans had left.
It's not me, It's you
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Feb 3, 2010 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
that was non-band side
at first tv timeout of first half
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Feb 3, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
it seemed somewhat larger
for most of the game (at least from the 200 level where I was) but not that much larger
It's not me, It's you
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Feb 3, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah
That was the student section. In the top middle you can see the seat that the Verizon Center guard didn’t let me into with 8:00 left to play because I didn’t have a wristband.
Just pathetic....
can’t wait to see the rescission of the letters of intent after this showing by the team…..and the porrer showing by the preppy political correctness focused on GLBTQ….
by MerlinWilson'sSister on Feb 3, 2010 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
remember when we had won
like 29 home games in a row?
The current batch of students simply doesn’t show up like they did even a few years ago
It's not me, It's you
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Feb 3, 2010 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
and now this just in from Mr. Double Digits Mean Wins.....
lumpy_4 Tough loss, we gonna bounce back tho
14 minutes ago reply
by MerlinWilson'sSister on Feb 3, 2010 11:00 PM EST reply actions
We're Georgetown students...
…of course we’re front-running douche bags!
Of course not....
this was a ’Cuse fan signing up 5 mins before making this post…..
As i said in my other post…. “wake up and smell the coffee”…
Do you still queston my ranking of 15 to 20???
by MerlinWilson'sSister on Feb 3, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
probably a Syracuse troll
they have nothing better to do in upstate NY
It's not me, It's you
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Feb 3, 2010 11:36 PM EST reply actions
True...
… as they only have a #3 team to root for that wouldn’t lose to USF…..
and this is difficult for me, as I hate ’Cuse (more than any other collegiate team)
by MerlinWilson'sSister on Feb 3, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
still I have noticed that Syracuse more than any other fanbase
seems to love trolling on Gtown fan sites, all the while pretending to be a Georgetown student.
It must be some sort of inferiority complex.
It's not me, It's you
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Feb 3, 2010 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
You questioning my Gtown loyalty?
by MerlinWilson'sSister on Feb 3, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
no no Stonewaller's
You’re just temporarily despondent. Who wouldn’t be after that game? But possibilities abound, this team has had one bad game (2 if you include Syracuse). All is not lost yet.
It's not me, It's you
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Feb 3, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
3 if you count ODU
thanks for the shoulder to cry on
by MerlinWilson'sSister on Feb 3, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
there there
It’ll be ok. :)
It's not me, It's you
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Feb 4, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
Suicide Watch (for me and the team's future)
1. That student section was still larger than it was at ’03 games.
2. JT3 must be trying to mentally break Henry Simms.
3. Chris Wright is trying to mentally break me.
4. If you break the season into sections, we can afford to lose a game during each section. The whole season is not a total loss yet.
5. I was force to listen to the game on sportstalk980.com because I need to work and travel constantly to pay for decent season tickets. That makes me even more pissed that students don’t show up for basically free seats.
6. When we crush Nova, this game will be a distant memory.
7. Did Casual climb over the glass to get into the Presidents box???
Section 101.
by RileysDressLikeAHoyaJersey on Feb 3, 2010 11:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
turning to the delusional part
This team will work its ass off between now and Saturday and will definitely be motivated against Nova.
It's not me, It's you
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Feb 3, 2010 11:39 PM EST reply actions
How did Hollis do with that 18 against USF....
you and the other delusionals here…spewing hate at Villanova (undeservedly…as Hire Esherick’s little sister goes there)…. and overlooking this…
I am debating the Freudian aspects of losing to St Johns twice last year vs. losing to USF at home this year…….
by MerlinWilson'sSister on Feb 3, 2010 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
young Hollis needs to step it up
though at least he didn’t have a Chris Wright (0-6 from 3 point range) performance
It's not me, It's you
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Feb 3, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
MWS
Thanks for keeping us honest! I know you dissed my top 10 comment after ‘Cuse but then Duke just happened and we stayed at #7. We beat Nova on Saturday and we stay in the top 10. We lose………and you are right. This team (unlike last year) has shown a great propensity to bounce back and win after defeat. In the Big East, any team can catch a couple of losses to “average teams”. The key is to keep the momentum up…despite the losses (Riley’s point above). But Nova will be tough. We will see.
With paranoia,
Yes... I must admit...this team has heart....
…but IT IS NOT A TOP 10 TEAM,,,,, by any stretch of the imagination…….. if they can put together 4 Duke-like games in the NCAAs….then they can make it to the Sweet 16 or beyond…..but they have not shown that theyca consistently hold it together….nor has their Coach been able to get them to play consistently (although I credit him with improving the team-like make-up of this team compared to last year)……
The underlying theme, which you can go back and reference from my intial posts on this site a month ago…….
- turnovers are killing us…..ture Princton offenses do not turn the ball over more than 9 times per game
- lack of bench scoring……Top 16 teams can rely on the 6th and 7th guys off the bench to provide some points and “strut” on the court….and not be caught up in “OMG!… I am in the midst of the Big East and over my head!”
- continued crashing the boards….. a big shout out to Benimon… for providing the spirit on this from the bench….. We need to exude the “old Georgetown” ’tude…. and provide some smack down in a hurry… (even at the expense of picking up some fouls)….. anybody going to the basket that picks up a foul from the other team, should lose an arm in the process….
Hope to see you this weekend vs "Nova (but highly unlikely due to heavy snow…..btw, go back and look at my statement last week about buying posters beer this weekend WEATHER-PERMITTING……)
At this point, I expect a rescheduled game for Sunday evening,,,,, if so, I will be there then… otherwise will be there for each of Syracuse, Notre Dame and Cincy….and travelling from NY Metro area….. a bit further than the preppies need to travel from Village A……. smh!!!
by MerlinWilson'sSister on Feb 4, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
plans for nova casual hour to be announced in next couple of days
weather permitting of course
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Feb 4, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
let us know if you hear anything solid about
any plans (contingency or otherwise) to move the Nova game
It's not me, It's you
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Feb 4, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
Circled "revenge" on the poster
outside my dorm for Hollis, Jerrelle, Vee and Ryan Dougherty (…) to see.
what about stepka?
High fives only on three pointers.
by TheYellofAllYells on Feb 4, 2010 7:25 AM EST up reply actions
Don't think he lives
on this floor.
by Vee Sanford's Next-door Neighbor on Feb 4, 2010 8:09 AM EST up reply actions
Yea, he lives on some other floor.
Not sure where…
by TheDoctorIsIn on Feb 4, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
MWS
….you speak the truth…….cannot disagree……..hard to say top 10 or top 15 or top 20 or really know what that means until we get through a few mnore games. Kansas has been lucky as hell to win its last two games. Syracuse almost lost to Depaul (which you might argue is worse than losing to USF but I won’t go there). Time will tell. We do have weaknessess which can be exploited, and strengths to focus on. This Hoya team is, surprisingly, a really good shooting team……….at times.
Travel safely my friend.
With paranoia,
Student Section
I think it’s about time for us to go the Marquette route. I’m sure a bunch of other schools do this, but I specifically remember Tom Crean putting a policy in place 5-6 years ago for students. If you have season tickets, you have to go to every game (I think you have one or two exceptions per year). If you miss more than that, you forfeit your chance for tickets next year. I realize we shouldn’t need to force kids to the games, but it is what it is. Also, for chrissake, we can’t afford ten school buses each game? Doesn’t seem like much of an expenditure to create an atmosphere.

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