Take Back Verizon: Introducing the "Traitor List"
Enough is enough.
It is time to do something about the invasion of opposing fans at our home arena. I am not going to make this some tired political rant or grassroots movement; I already attempted to do that in December with no success. I am just going to introduce a new feature on Casual Hoya called The Traitor List. The Traitor List is simply a compilation of lower bowl seats that are sold to opposing fans. This list is a living and breathing organism that will be updated daily as you let us know which fans are selling their Georgetown seats souls to our opposition.
So next time you are at Verizon, take note of opposing fans sitting in the lower bowl. Those tickets are part of Georgetown Season Ticket packages and should not be in the hands of non-Georgetown fans. Be thorough and diligent, take pictures and notes. Ask the opposing fans where they bought the tickets - the more information, the better.
What we do with this list is unclear and I am open to suggestions. We could give it to the Georgetown Athletic Department, but they already hate us. We could just leave it on the site, as some sort of traitorous branding, but the people that sell their tickets probably don't visit this site. At the end of the day, it might just turn into group therapy for those of us that are sick of sitting next to Orange, Green and Gold shirts - and I am fine if that is the result.
Exposing the Traitors after The Jump:
I want to be perfectly clear; this is not an attack on the Georgetown Ticket Office, I realize they are severely understaffed and Steve Alleva is doing a phenomenal job. Walking into Verizon for the Duke game and seeing a Sea of Gray was one of the most beautiful things I have ever seen, and we have him and his staff to thank for that.
This is an attack on those season ticket holders that take the incredible seats they are allowed to purchase and sell them to opposing fans. Look, we are a small school playing in a big arena in a major city. I understand that we will never have a true home court advantage. But you do not have to make it worse by giving away the small advantage we have. How can you possibly justify profiting off of tickets to an event staged to promote school spirit? This isn't a business or investment opportunity, you are reaping benefits at the cost of a school you supposedly support. Did you pay for your education with fake checks as well? Do you scalp tickets to your daughter's dance recitals? Promote and take pride in your damn school!
For those smart asses that want to bring up capitalism and free markets - how about selling your tickets on the HoyaTalk Ticket Exchange. Sell your tickets to Georgetown fans and don't pay StubHub fees! It is a good feature they have set up to foster ticket transfers between Hoyas.
And to those opposing fans that read this and laugh, smile, giggle and Tweet SMH: Congrats. Your glory and amusement is our anger and pain.
Despite my intentions, I guess this is turning into a grassroots movement, someone come up with a clever name, I am exhausted and sad after writing this.
A special thanks to beatcuse for getting the ball rolling on this - great idea.
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Bad Real Estate
Seems like Section 108 is particularly guilty. As a 107 resident, I’ll be happy to think of something before Saturday. Will they even show?
How to go about it
Go after the traitor fans? Will they ever show up? Pester the Athletic Department? Do they even care?
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Feb 19, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
I lied.
I did not attend a jusuit school- my wife did, though- and Jim Boeheim? Yeah, he’s awesome (as I believe was clearly demonstrated last night).
Let’s. Go. Orange.
"Send it in Jerome!!!!"
Suggestion
Can you start promoting the HoyaTalk ticket exchange and the link more prominently on the Casual Hoya site?
Would be great to promote this option as much as possible to season ticket holders who might otherwise sell blindly through other channels.
it is on the traitor list widget
open to suggestions
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Feb 20, 2010 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
Two extremes
The major weakness of the HoyaTalk ticket exchange is that tix have to be sold at face value. I practically gave away my Duke ticket despite knowing it could have pulled $400+ on Stubhub. It would be nice if there were a middle-ground where you could get something halfway closer to market value from your fellow Hoyas.
by HoyaSmacksYa on Feb 20, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Craigslist, maybe?
I thought Hoyatalk just encourages that people sell tickets at face value, what is eventually decided between two parties is beyond what they can monitor.
Craigslists is more personal and less expensive that stubhub, ask a stupid question to establish that they are Georgetown fans.
Heck put them up for sale here, we don’t have the private message feature like HT or email encryption like CL but I am sure people would respond.
Need to figure out a solution, can’t have another game like Thursday night. Especially now that we are a Nationally Ranked Powerhouse… it was an embarrassment for the University.
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Feb 20, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
although there were no grey tees on Thursday
there was a very tasteful line of blue GU Med Center tote bags on some of the seats. Excellent for carrying home the remains of my crushed spirit and the final shreds of my dignity that night.
KBE
Seat give-aways
I can understand the frustration of those folks who pay for the prime seats for Georgetown Basketball, and end up sitting next to the opposition’s fans. However, This is not an uncommon occurence, and happens all around the league.
A couple of years ago, I had the occasion to sit with four other season ticket holders at the Carrier Dome in the midst of over 200 bused in Georgetown Students who stood up and chanted the whole game, so that we could barely see the court. Did I get mad; no I didn’t. I look at this as just part of the spectacle of college basketball; the thing that keeps me buying those season tickets every year. They were there to cheer on their team, and I was there to cheer on mine. People seem to forget sometimes, that win or lose, or who sits next to you, it’s really all about the game, so just enjoy it!
Cusehoops1
200 is a lot different than 6,000...
I realize we will never control the 400s, but the lower bowl of Verizon is sold solely to people who make donations to athletics (except behind opposing bench).
The 200+ you sat with at the Dome was probably given to Georgetown by the Cuse Athletic Department, all Athletic Departments exchange tickets with the opposing team.
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Feb 20, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
The 200
Hoya Blue bought those tickets through group sales at the Dome…definitely NOT a gift. And @cusehoops1, thanks for being nice to us. Most of your fellow fans were way less cool about opposing fans being in their section.
Didn't mean it as a gift
Meant that schools make tickets available to opposing fans… just not 3 rows from the court…
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Feb 20, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
One other idea on the traitor list
Perhaps we could create a companion list that honors the Hoya Loyals – those who ensure their seadon tickets go to Hoya fans when they’re not being used. Seat and/or names of the ticket owners could be forwarded to Casual Hoya site by the Hoya fans who are recipients of the tix. Idea is to publicly honor those season ticket holders who go out of their way to ensure their tickets don’t go to opposing team fans.
May be overkill, but something to consider as this effort takes shape.
I don't need my name in lights
Just shower me in headbands….
Or buy me a delicious Miller Lite!
Blip
by JahidiLikesPie on Feb 21, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
Combining beatcuse and Jahidi...
What about a loyalty program for GU students and fans that come to games.
Accumulate points for not buying season tickets – but actually sitting in your seats. Get Hoya gear, special access to open pratices, pre-game events, and other perks based on your attendance. Georgetown recently introduced this concept in their donation policy; repeated annual donations gives donors access to “loyalty” events.
The problem with the idea is that it won’t stop people from selling tickets – it will actually encourage it so they can remain “loyal”. To get around this problem, what if each section had a “section leader” that monitors people showing up to games. Any opposing color is noted and reported. Or with each season ticket package comes an ID card which is scanned when you enter – not sure that is feasible, though.
I like your idea of honoring loyalty. It is more positive and would probably get the Athletic Department’s attention.
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Feb 21, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
SECTION 108 ROW A SEATS 1-4
Definitely full of Nova fans and UCONN. Add them to the list.
They are REPEAT OFFENDERS
I even saw USF fans in Row A, Section 118
by HardCoreHoya on Feb 21, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
You are right
Meant to say 118 ROW A earlier…
Shout out to Steve Alleva
GEORGETOWN CHIMES AINT NOTHIN TO FUCK WIT

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