The Casual Awards: Here Comes The Delusion...
by CasualHoya on Dec 6, 2010 9:00 AM EST
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PrintTo refresh your recollection, the Georgetown Hoyas have wins at Old Dominion and against three conference champions (Coastal Carolina, Wofford and Utah State) plus a vicious "road win" at the 8th ranked team in the country in Mizzou plus a convincing win over a top 5 team in the ACC in NC State. If Georgetown can beat Temple and Memphis on the road while taking care of business at Verizon against Appalachian State and Loyola, the Hoyas will have completed the toughest out of conference schedule in the country undefeated and will have built a resume so strong that assuming The Holy Trinity stays healthy it will be difficult for the Selection Committee to seed Georgetown anything lower than a 2 seed come March. Is that delusional enough for you? As usual after Georgetown's latest VICTORY we here at THE GLOBAL PHENOMENON are handing out hardware to those most deserving. Away we go...
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The Chris Wright Heart of a Champion Award:
Chris Wright. I shall refer to the Casual Postgame Recap for this one:
Wright attacked the basket time and time again, getting easy layups while scoring 21 points on 9 shots. He added 4 steals and 2 assists. No other Hoya was in double figures, but 5 other players had 6 points or more. I'm not sure what happened to Wright over the summer - whether it was the departure of Greg Monroe or the Chris Paul camp he attended - but it is impossible to overstate how spectacular and composed Wright has been. He is controlling games on both offense and defense, hitting enormous shots, and providing the right type of fiery leadership that last year's team lacked. It would be silly to say that the Hoyas are more talented without Monroe, who was arguably the best passer in the nation last year. A team never gets better losing a lottery pick. But this team is just different. Part of the reason is because there is one unquestioned leader this year - Chris Wright.
More Awards after The Jump:
The Dickie V Award:
After the Missouri game we figured only Doug Gottlieb could own this one, but Orrin Hatch is making a serious run at it. I guess ESPNU was thrilled to be able to stroll out a United States Senator during its broadcast, but Orrin Hatch's 5 minute stint was about 5 minutes too long. A mind-boggling and rambling session about the BCS and relatively nothing related to hoops or especially what was occurring on the floor, this was just awful.
Horrible.
Nikita Mescheriakov Memorial Award:
Nate Lubick. Casual airballed three pointer. I like you Nate. I believe you are going to be a great four year player. That said, IF YOU EVER SHOOT ANOTHER THREE POINTER I WILL KILL YOU. Don't take that literally, I just mean I don't enjoy when you airball 23 foot jumpers. What is it with big men at Georgetown trying to shoot threes? Julian Vaughn shot a ton of disgusting looking threes last year too. Stay inside and get your points on layups, dunks and tip ins. We clear?
Beauty School Dropout Award:
Frankie Avalon is casual.
Tai Wesley. The Utah State forward and leading scorer fouled out and wasn't much of a factor against the Hoyas, but damn is he handsome.
Vee Sanford has to play more. Before the Big East starts, he needs to be getting 10-15 minutes a night. Vee is currently averaging 8 minutes a game and Chris Wright is averaging 33. That difference will only get wider as the season progresses unless Vee gets more time in the next few games. Sims has become more comfortable because Vaughn hasn't been able to stay on the floor due to illness and foul trouble. We need Sanford to get the same exposure and save Wright's legs for February and March.
The Tesla Award:
Utah State coaching staff. Signs, signs, everywhere are signs. I respect the attempt at trickery and chicanery by having signs for various plays in your playbook to confuse the defense, but while these kinds of maneuvers may work against the likes of Hawaii, they don't have much of an impact in the Big East.
Ooh you guys are SO like confusing Georgetown's defense with your tabs and binders.
The Jim Nantz Commenter of the Game Award:
Be(a)st of the Big East is this game's winner for the insight below.
Last year
we played Temple our first game and lost to ODU after going 8-0
This year, we played ODU first and are playing Temple with an 8-0 record…by Be(a)st of the Big East on Dec 4, 2010 1:57 PM EST reply actions
The Document Your Lunch Award:
Behold the Wonky Dog!
Genius.
127 Hours Award:
Word of advice here. You may want to check out this movie because Danny Boyle directed it and you find James Franco attractive, but if you get squeamish at the sight of someone CUTTING HIS ARM OFF I'd stay home. Oh, this award goes to Henry Sims, because he is awesome.
Old Balls Award (Named in Honor of the Winner of 2010 Casual Bracket Contest):
NC State. Come on dammit! Up six on Syracuse with 11 minutes to play in the second half and chucking awful jumpers on four consecutive possessions to lose the game with numerous opportunities to take the lead down the stretch? FAIL. DAMN YOU, WOLFPACK.
Improper Use of Casual Swag Award:
Casual Swag can be used for many things, however, a shake-weight warmer is not one of them.
Live By the Three Continue to Live Despite the Three:
Georgetown Hoyas. From shooting the lights out against Missouri the Hoyas only took eight shots from beyond the arc, making a dismal two. So what? The inside game worked. We are clearly unstoppable.
DC is for Lovers Award:
Nothing like waking up early to run down to you illegally parked car to find a pile of these littering your windshield. Better than a ticket, I think.
The Leaving Las Vegas Award for In-Game Beverage Choice:
Solid in-game drinking by one of our West Coast Casualties.
Drinking makes a win so much better.
The Complete's Idiots Guide to Being Pathetic Award:
Syracuse fan Jay Costa. Nothing says pathetic more than spending your Saturday night trying to fight with Chris Wright on Twitter and then ending the conversation with the following shameful attempt at intimidation:
Nice comeback. Good luck with the sign-making. Stay classy Cuse.
The Things Better Improve By Conference Play Award:
Verizon Center Concessions. It does not need to take this long to get a bud light and an order of the new buffalo chicken tenders. I would like to write fascinating awards about Georgetown's press or Utah State's horrible shooting but I missed a huge portion of the first half in the chicken line and a huge portion of the second half in TWO different beer lines trying to beat the 15 minute cutoff. And don't even get me started on the premium beer carts still being closed. I can't take much more domestic light drafts!
National Geographic Award for DC GameWatch Photography:
Solid turnout by the students
Good God is that former Hoya legend Sead Dizdarevic!
Gratuitous picture of Jessica Alba Award:
You're welcome
The Georgetown Hoyas are an undefeated nationally ranked powerhouse.
The Temple Owls are NeXt.
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NC State game
Ugly as sin. No field goals for the last 6:43 for EITHER team.
Why so Syracuse?
by HoyaJoker07 on Dec 6, 2010 9:19 AM EST via mobile reply actions
One last shot at the nickname before "Holy Trinity" sticks...
The Three/III Kings? Except in this movie, the tagline would be something like:
“They’ve been following stars their whole career, now it’s their turn to bring the hardware.”
or
“This winter, punishment is a gift best delivered from beyond the arc.” (although they don’t always need it)
RUN DMV DAMNIT
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by JGD on Dec 6, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
sorry where?
does run DMV come from? wheat does it stand for?
FUCK
DMV is what all the cool kids call DC, Maryland, Virginia. Wale talks about it in all of his songs and guys from this area (Kevin Durant, Rudy Gay, Nolan Smith, Austin, Chris, Jason, etc) consistently talk about the DMV.
It is particularly awesome because each of the three guards played high school basketball in the three parts DC (Wright) VA (Clark) MD (Austin)
Run DMC becomes Run DMV. What do you think?
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Entry 1
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dmv
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And although he played at St. John's
Wright is from Maryland.
What are these assertions!?
by DHB Enterprises on Dec 6, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
I shouldn't have to explain it
If all of you were more in tune with urban dictionary and Wale’s smooth sounds.
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The first thing anyone thinks about when they hear DMV
is the Department of Motor Vehicles. End of story.
Even if we get over that and someone recognizes DMV as Delaware, Maryland, and Virginia, the further leap to equating that to the three guards is so geeky it should come with headgear and a 20-sided die.
Yes
Because the rest of the nicknames being thrown around are exceedingly cool
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You're stupid
This blog is stupid
The world is stupid
I quit
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I disagree.
Despite being the coolest college nickname, nobody knows what a “Hoya” is.
I would say "Let's just put it to a poll"
But that would mean we would have whatever nickname wadetandy wanted.
Internet democracy, you are so flawed.
by RoyIsTheTallest on Dec 6, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Completely in the Run DMV corner
Run TMC was a backcourt trio so Run DMV makes more sense than the terrible Holy Trinity – (whose Mary?) and why so christian? smh
by bunk moreland on Dec 6, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Mary isn't in the Holy Trinity
And we’re a Jesuit school.
Just sayin’.
I’m not wild about any of the names, so I will defend them all for now.
by RoyIsTheTallest on Dec 6, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
ha - terrible on my part
so whose it the holy trinitiy – God, Jesus and Holy Spirit?
You would think I would know basic theology but clearly not.
by bunk moreland on Dec 6, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Yep, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost
Father – Chris
Son – Clark
Holy Ghost – Freeman
Maybe?
by RoyIsTheTallest on Dec 6, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
Father – JT II
Son – JT III
Holy Ghost – Esherick
by Be(a)st of the Big East on Dec 6, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
I'm Anti Run DMV
As someone said, you have to explain Run DMV to most people, and that makes it uncool.
Also, it would make just as much sense to call the entire team Run DMV. When you’re talking about a threesome, and you use an expression that has 3 initials, people assume that the initials correspond to the players. In this case they don’t, which makes it perplexing.
I’d rather just call them something simple, but also specific to Georgetown. Something like, “The Big III” or “3-Town” (or “III-Town” for that matter).
If you want to do something with initials, we could call them “JAC the Bulldogs.” (JAC = Jason, Austin, Chris.) Or “Hoya-JACsa.”
Anything too religious (like Holy Trinity) also gets too contrived. I mean, I get it that Georgetown is a Catholic school, but other than that there’s no real connection. Also, this is basketball. Though I like him a lot, Chris Wright is not God.
How about
JAC and the Bulldogs?
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by JGD on Dec 6, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Look at me and JGD
getting along for once. And agreeing on two issues in the same thread! Glad to be on the same page!
New season my man
Out with the old, in with the new.
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by JGD on Dec 6, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Since this won't be the official name
It’ll see a sign before the year’s out.
beatcuse will receive a casual citation
Why so Syracuse?
Nickname suggestion re-posted from a previous blog
“3-Dog-Night”
(I won’t re-explain it)
"Joy to the fishies in the deep blue sea..."
This entire conversation makes me think of the hilarious Sportscenter commercial
“The Boston Three Party”
“See, this man’s a professional.”
Why so Syracuse?
The Tripod
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I'm fromt the "DMV"
and I hate the term “DMV”
Holy Trinity sticks
by VictorPage'sLeftEye on Dec 6, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
The Three Kings - fantastic suggestion
it allows for delusions of grandeur and biblical references
I continue to be distressed
by the awkward use of parentheses in the Old Balls Award. Please put the lonely one out of its misery, or something.
KBE
thanks old bean
I rest easy at night now. The stress it was generating caused my unseemly brusqueness.
KBE
Just because your country invented the language
doesn’t mean you know more about it than us.
Well, maybe me. Kentucky doesn’t learn to read until college, after all.
CyberSalsaKing
Apparently they still can't read the wikipedia entry for John Calipari.
Well, maybe wiki vacated it.
Why so Syracuse?
Austin
First time commentator. Long time lover of this blog.
Qualifier: I love Austin
Gripe: Has anyone else noticed that he refuses to feed the post? Did it last year w/ Greg. JuJu will have his man completely sealed and he refuses to thow it down low. Happens 99% of the time.
Sweet handle
Never noticed that about Austin. My gripe with him related to the post is I wish he would actually go down there. He is stronger than any person that guards him and finishes so well around the basket, would love to see him develop a post game.
Will start paying attention to not feeding the post.
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ShakeWeight says...
“It is time for a Casual workout.”
"The enemy is like a woman, weak in face of opposition..." - St. Ignatius
I certainly hope no Hoya fans talk shit to Syrcause players over twitter
Because that is seriously lame.
High fives only on three pointers.
by TheYellofAllYells on Dec 6, 2010 10:49 AM EST reply actions
agree on 3 of 4
but was very disappointed by Michigan State’s play against Duke on Wednesday. I definitely don’t think they are the title contender he thinks they still are, based on what I’ve seen so far. The way they played in the second half against Duke, I thought they should have been blown out by 20+ points. It was far worse than we were playing when we lost our 18 point lead to Missouri. If anything, it told me that Duke isn’t the flawless team everyone is saying they are, as they should have had no problem handling that team. In fact, it was still close enough for them to have to worry into the final minutes.
CyberSalsaKing
If the top team looks that bad, though...
Then I think he has a point. If everyone’s playing a little shitty right now (besides us…knocking on wood), then MSU just has to be less shitty than other teams. Do I think they should be top 10? No. They should have to claw up the way we have some years if they want that kind of respect. But I don’t think they should leave the top 25.
Why so Syracuse?
agreed
I just don’t think they are what he refers to as “the most plausible non-Duke national champion in the land.”
CyberSalsaKing
Haha
Wow, missed that line. Yeah, that’s complete nonsense…
I’d only really read the Georgetown section (which Katz’s similar article didn’t have, although it did expose the ’Cuse).
Why so Syracuse?
Damn it
Nope, Eamonn Brennan responsible for all of the worthwhile reporting.
Katz useless.
I, too, am useless.
Why so Syracuse?
HALLELUJAH
Run DMV finally getting some recognition
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I am nothing if not loyal
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Really?
You want to go down this road? Loyal? Want me to dig up some posts from last season?
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Something that scares me
We keep talking about how this year is different from last year.
Last year we had beat Washington, Butler, and Temple to start 8-0
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True
But the at home trap game just came and went AND we eked out a win over the team that beat us the ninth game.
I’m not looking past Temple or saying we can’t lose there…but it would be a road loss rather than the on-campus gym loss to the same team from last time.
Why so Syracuse?
Agreed
It’s just interesting that even in 08-09 we started really hot (destroyed Maryland, beat UConn at UConn).
I don’t think we will really know if anything changes until the heart of the Big East
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that win against temple
was almost painful to watch, bailed out by monroe at the end.
hoyas are winning much more impressively this season.
FEED THE DELUSION
Casually.
How different was it from the ODU win
First game of the season?
Butler and Washington wins were absurdly impressive
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ODU win was on the road in difficult place to play
that temple win was in our home opener last season
Casually.
I agree that we had a similiar start
But our major wins last year came from almost single-handed contributions by either Greg, Austin, and in the BET Chris. This year have seen Hollis and Jason, and even Hank show that they can be just as important a factor in winning. Last year we knew that if 2 of the big 3 did not show up we could lose to anyone. Even having Vee and Markel allow us to rest wright or clark for a few minutes that we could never do last year.
by hoyabballownsall on Dec 6, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
That's a good point
Much more balanced this year. Felt like the big wins last year were contingent on Greg scoring or being hot from three.
We NEVER won a game like the Mizzou game last year.
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I am embracing the delusion
Seems like the balance may be greater than 06-07. No Jeff Green or Roy, but Austin may be more of a prolific scorer in this sort of offense. Not having to have the big man touch it every time (simply b/c Roy & Greg were arguably 2 of the best big-man passers ever in College Ball) means that guards are free to drive, cut, shoot. Play to our strengths. Question is of Talent vs. balance. If we can play 10 guys every game, I will take balance. Austin has shown he can take over a game when it is on the line (see Missouri).
by hoyabballownsall on Dec 6, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
And I am really optimistic about this season, it just dawned on me about the Butler, Washington wins
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Hey, I won an award!
That’s more hardware than Georgetown will bring home this year. (Zing!)
Like I explained to you on twitter the other night: Chris Wright said “#ihatecuse.” I responded. We exchanged a couple tweets and then went on our merry ways. Then all of a sudden you came along, hurled some homophobic insults my way, and now you’re threatening to punch me in the face. Real classy.
And “act tough on the internet”? Me? You’re just making shit up now. You’re right, you probably could kick my ass. I’m a scrawny dude who’s never been in a fight in his life, and I’ve never hinted otherwise.
So thanks for continuing to live up to all the negative Hoya stereotypes. See you all at the Verizon Center.
Go, fight, and win.
Nothing will top
The video you made mocking Freeman’s diabetes.
Okbye.
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by JGD on Dec 6, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not saying we beat Duke for it or anything.
I’m saying you’re wrong.
One is significantly easier than the other.
Why so Syracuse?
Also, please note how my conversation with Wright ended:
@Cwright_4 Haha, I’m not mad. Actually I’m happy to hear you players supporting the rivalry. #respect #butistillhateyouOMG INTRNET TUFFGUY!!
Go, fight, and win.
Just saying
Your face is eminently punchable.
That's where I stand as well
So, so punchable
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by JGD on Dec 6, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
Also really enjoying
How in one breath, you’re telling us to chill out, it’s just a twitter conversation, while in the other, you’re crying foul on perceived homophobia and threats to punch you in the face.
When do we get to use the magical talisman that makes the internet both serious and inane at the same time?! Share the wealth, dude!
Why so Syracuse?
There’s nothing “perceived” about the homophobia, and the threat to punch me in the face sounds like a threat to punch me in the face.
As for the talisman, I think CasualHoya borrowed it. He’s the one who called me out for perceived internet tough guy comments and then acted like an internet tough guy.
Go, fight, and win.
Also
I go on Nunes when we play Syracuse. That’s it. Why are you consistently trolling on this blog?
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by JGD on Dec 6, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll assume that by “consistently” you mean “when someone threatens your beautiful face.”
For shits and giggles.
Go, fight, and win.
Hahaha
Fair.
But you did find it in the post while reading it, unless you have some sort of google alert for Alex O face punch
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by JGD on Dec 6, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
Using “dickrider” as an insult is just like calling someone a “fag.” It’s implying that being gay is something negative or shameful. It perpetuates antipathy toward homosexuals.
Go, fight, and win.
I'm pretty sure a woman could be a dickrider too.
See the link on the word “homophobia” in my comment above.
Is there a later definition of it on that website that involves homophobia? Yes, but that’s awful. Does it take quite a few other definitions to get there? Yes.
Why so Syracuse?
So wait
It’d be completely fine for CasualHoya to call a woman a dickrider, but it’s different when it’s a guy?
I think the “active ingredient” in dickrider is liking something so much, you would shamelessly ride its dick. It’s the shameless homerism that earns the antipathy, not the sexual orientation that it would happen to represent because, in this case, you’re male.
Why so Syracuse?
I never said that. I was just pointing out that the fact that a woman can be a dickrider is a moot point.
Ugh. This is going to get us nowhere. I did not wake up this morning expecting to be arguing over the merits of using the term “dickrider.”
Go, fight, and win.
I find it kind of fun
Start writing argumentative sentence…then you still have to write “dickrider.”
I kind of want to know if the phrase has ever come up on a court record.
Why so Syracuse?
Truce
If it wasn’t clear.
Have reached the point of self-judgment for continued involvement.
You’re still going to hell for the Austin video. Boo.
Why so Syracuse?
And by the way.
It’s not ideal that I get this engrossed in definitions with you. I’d rather be on the flippant side of the conversation with JGD, but it’s a pretty bothersome accusation.
There are plenty of horrible things said by both of our fanbases at games*, which is why I’m glad Suxa and Co are around to keep it clever even if I have to hate them anyway.
Why so Syracuse?
*forgot to follow up on my asterisk
When we went to the away game at the Carrier Dome in 2008 (an unfortunate loss), one Hoya fan had a sign that said, “What’s a Hoya? If you have to ask, you can’t afford it.”
I think most of the posters on here have demonstrated that we’re capable of much better than that. If that person posts here, well, what can I say? Didn’t like that sign at all.
Why so Syracuse?
Ha
That doesn’t even make sense. Georgetown tuition costs a whopping 10% more than SU.
There are plenty of idiots for both sides.
Go, fight, and win.
Really?
Sounds like a ripoff to me
by turnover by ray reed on Dec 6, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
id venture to guess
there are a lot more idiots on the cuse side. just judging by admissions standards.
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Dec 6, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
If you'll be at the Verizon Center
who will be tasked with rolling your teams coveted burritos at Chipolte?
That lowly internship can’t be covering the rent in your Mommy’s house
by Coach K's kneepads on Dec 6, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
While I like the idea of "Run DMV"...
as someone brought up above, Chris is from Bowie and just went to a (prep) school in DC. Its kind of like when I say I live in DC and someone goes, “me too” and when asked where they respond Arlington or Bethesda….JGD, do you really live in the City or actually in Jersey? Perhaps in Casual’s Mom’s basement?)
On another note, EXCELLENT use of the Tesla lyrics. Love it. I couldn’t see the signs from our seats so didn’t see them until later when rewatching some highlights on DVR.
They will lose tomorrow night to MSU
And drop down.
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by JGD on Dec 6, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
That's a good point
Tomorrow night’s games are awesome. Looking forward to getting a look at Memphis when they play Kansas
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by JGD on Dec 6, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah you generally have to actually lose
before you drop in the polls. I would love to beat MSU, but would be okay with a loss if we played better. We know ‘Cuse hasn’t played it’s best basketball, whereas GTown may be peaking in December. I’ll take that.
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 6, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
so now gtown is peaking
cuse pathetic
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Dec 7, 2010 9:21 AM EST up reply actions
They are around the main concourse
but rarely open until conference play. and even then, it usually takes a Cuse or WV game to get the full array of concessions.
No award for being screwed by the refs?
That should go to the whole Utah St. team for the home cooking. 24 fouls to 13? Good stuff. My personal favorite was when the Gtown player (Wright I believe) went over the shoulder on the Aggie to force the TO, sent it up the court to (Freeman?) who got the layup and one on the Utah St. player who was leaning backward and never actually, you know, made contact. Beautiful home cooking. Don’t get me wrong, it was a good win, but you could be a little objective in your analysis.
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 6, 2010 11:06 PM EST reply actions
It's true
Every game that has a foul disparity involves home cooking.
You know a lot about basketball.
I guess you’d say we got jobbed against Missouri with the fouls 27 to 18? It’s only two fouls off the margin you’re criticizing. You’d say that, right?
So really, everyone should look at how the Utah State game would be different if we’d only taken as many free throws as they did (8). Now, we shot almost 75% from the stripe, so let’s say we made 6 of them instead of the 20 we actually made. So that’s 14 points we wouldn’t have.
Oh, crap…we still won.
Why so Syracuse?
Actually the Missouri game was in their favor
no pressing team should have less fouls than their opponent, the whole gameplan is designed on being physical. I have no problem with agreeing to that. Your argument is a winner.
I do know alot about basketball, such as knowing better than to use free throw differential as the only impact of foul differential. I’m sure having their star on the bench most of the game with ticky-tack calls didn’t impact Utah St.‘s ability to compete. No impact whatsoever. I’m sure that in your scenario Tai Wesley wouldn’t have made up those three points. Your argument fails.
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 6, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
Tai Wesley
fouled out on our bigs, because we threw bodies at him when they clearly expected us to continue our outside play (which they shut down admirably). Chris Wright even said they drove the ball trying to draw contact.
And I’m aware using free throw differential as the only impact of foul differential doesn’t make sense, but I was trying to engage your argument in a world where a disparity in fouls automatically means someone got jobbed.
The description of the Austin play was more convincing than that, although honestly, I don’t remember it. Maybe if I was watching at home and got a replay, I might have seen it, but as it is, I didn’t actually see a foul disparity in that game while it was happening. And I wouldn’t be shocked if others hadn’t either, so it’s not something we all willingly swept under the rug after the game, thus losing objectivity.
Then again, why you keep coming to a Georgetown fan blog for objectivity is a question for a man far wiser than me.
To sum up, I’m really sorry if you’re concerned that your star big man, Fab Melo, is going to foul out against us on bad calls, thus limiting his ability to win the game for you.
Why so Syracuse?
by HoyaJoker07 on Dec 7, 2010 7:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
please continue
every single thing you have ever said on this blog has proven to be WRONG. from gtown having no interior presence, to there not being a VAST discrepancy in the level of competition gtown and cuse have played thus far, to gtown relying solely on the three.
you are like the doug gottlieb of this blog – always yapping, never correct.
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Dec 7, 2010 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
Glad you're here
You’re better at this than I am.
I need a troll-feeding intervention.
Why so Syracuse?
calling utah state game home cooking is the most ridiculous thing i have ever read
calling utah state game home cooking is the most ridiculous thing i have ever read
gtown was quicker and more athletic than Utah St which resulted in the foul discrepancy. Utah St. played the perimeter to take away the three (which they did) but couldnt move their feet to defend driving guards or get back into position to pack the paint. georgetown took 44 shots in that game. 32 were layups/tip shots. no driving team should have less fouls than its non-driving opponent. the head coach of utah state said this himself.
cuse trolls looking for reasons to dig themselves out of their miserable existence. coming here and saying "i do know a lot about basketball" and labeling a 17 point victory the result of favorable calls without looking where and how the team scored is plain stupid. why did i expect anything different?
no more responding to that troll until february 9.
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Dec 7, 2010 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed
I have to believe that if we don’t respond he will go away
My handle used to be Jeff Green's Dad, but it was confusing and creepy, namely because I am not his dad. My new handle is JGD. I am trim and in charge.
Awww
and after you welcomed me back so warmly following the summer. I realize that the troll label comes out automatically here whenever someone tries to interject a thought from outside your secluded little world, so I won’t take offense to that. If you’re going to take shots at me, you can at least get a semblance of accuracy. I never said the 17 point victory was the result of favorable calls, not once. What I did say, was based on watching the game with my own two eyes I saw a preponderance of favorable calls go towards GTown’s way. Was that the sole reason they won? Of course not, and I never said it was. Did it help them immensely? Of course it did. But since your entertaining game recaps involve an award (Cahill right?) whenever something official goes against you, I thought I’d point out that you could give the same award for the other team when you get the good deal.
p.s. yeah it’s miserable being an Orange fan as we prepare for our first bowl game in years, at the most famous stadium in America. While watching our undefeated basketball team. Yep, pretty hard to read the sports section at times like these.
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 7, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
pinstripe bowl
Glad to see that the football team follows the basketball team’s lead in not scheduling out-of-state.
(and yes, before you say it, I recognize that it’s a bit rich of us to say anything about football…)
KBE
That would be true
if college teams got to pick the bowls they went to. I won’t pick on your football team, I’m sure you’re all eagerly looking forward to the revenge game against Sacred Heart next year.
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 7, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
but you are wrong
there was no home cooking. i just proved you wrong on that. yet you dont respond to the facts i presented.
let me put it this way: “your two eyes” saw something different than the stats of the game show.
unclear why you come here for objective analysis. this is a fan blog. if you want objective analysis, go to espn. im sure they have a full story about georgetown’s home cooking. oh wait…
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Dec 7, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
i dont mind thoughts from the outside
i mind baseless comments written to incite a response. which is true of every single thing you have ever contributed. that’s why you are a troll.
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Dec 7, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
We love Esteban D'Amur
My handle used to be Jeff Green's Dad, but it was confusing and creepy, namely because I am not his dad. My new handle is JGD. I am trim and in charge.
by JGD on Dec 7, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
You posted your thoughts why as a team
Utah St. deserved more fouls than GTown. Fair enough, and some of them made good sense. I said that I saw WAY more ticky-tack calls made against Utah St. The two statements are not mutually exclusive, and the stats support both sides.
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 7, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
wrong, again
that stats support one side, mine. no where in your biased and illogical statements have you made a case for “the stats” supporting your side. the only thing that supports your side are “your two eyes.” which is meaningless
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Dec 8, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
Yep
HUGE discrepancy in the level of competition. Both beat a team sitting at number 8 in the rankings. Both beat NC ST. GTown beat two teams that made the tourney, ’Cuse beat two teams that actually made the Sweet Sixteen (I know Cornell is not the same team at all, but you claimed Wofford as a tourney team when you played them). After those comparisons, GTown has played zero teams from major conferences and Syracuse beat TWO, at a neutral site no less.
Actually when looking at it, you’re absolutely right. There is a pretty big discrepancy, and it’s in Syracuse’s favor. Thanks you for pointing out my error there.
"Stop the run to earn the right to rush the passer"- great philosophy from new SU DLine coach Jimmy Brumbaugh.
by bigbluethruandthru on Dec 8, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
SOS
Georgetown Strength of Schedule = 3
Syracuse Strength of Schedule = 50
Left on Georgetown’s Schedule: Temple, App State, Loyola, Memphis. 2 on the road. Average RPI of 96.
Left on Cuse’s Schedule: Colgate, Iona, Morgan St., Drexel. All at home. Average RPI of 186.
Good talk.
Casual Hoya
by Hire Esherick on Dec 8, 2010 7:55 AM EST up reply actions
Not to mention
Both beat a team sitting at number 8 in the rankings.
One was a zero loss Missouri team at an arena with their decals on the floor, one was a two-loss MSU team in a not entirely neutral setting.
Both beat NC ST.
One by 15 on a neutral court, one by 6 on one of the best home courts in the game (hate to admit it), with neither team in the latter game making a field goal for the last 6 minutes and 43 seconds of play. Mmm, basketball the way it’s meant to be played.
’Cuse beat two teams that actually made the Sweet Sixteen (I know Cornell is not the same team at all, but you claimed Wofford as a tourney team when you played them).
It’s this year, and Cornell sucks. Don’t worry, I’m willing to concede Wofford sucks too.
After those comparisons, GTown has played zero teams from major conferences and Syracuse beat TWO, at a neutral site no less.
Are we really acting like the worst major conference team would be a more impressive team than any mid-major? Georgia Tech is 4-4, including a 17 point loss to Kennesaw State and a 20 point loss to Northwestern. Cuse beat them by four points. Old Dominion has beaten Clemson (OMG a major conference team), Richmond and Xavier, while playing a pretty hot Georgetown team to within three points. See how a close loss to our team says more about the opponent (Missouri, ODU), when Cuse’s close wins have called Cuse into question?
You are actually insane.
Why so Syracuse?
Bigblue
You are an idiot. See you on the 9th. Until then, try and actually think before you open you’re mouth (or post a comment, whatever). You had an impressive win last night, and RIck Jackson is a force. You accomplish nothing except making yourself look like an assclown when you try to argue that Georgetown Sucks, ON A GEORGETOWN BLOG.
Take No Prisoners, especially if they wear Orange.
by hoyabballownsall on Dec 8, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
Julian Vaughn
says Hi from the bench. Cause you know he was in foul trouble early. We just had other places to turn. FOR ONCE!
by iheartgregmonroe on Dec 7, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
Why did anyone not
Document Tyrese Gibson at the game, according to the reliable source he was really there, although turlington is more my cup of tea. Gibson > Hatch
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