#7 Georgetown Hoyas (15-3, 6-2) vs. #4 Syracuse Orange (19-1, 6-1)
by Hire Esherick on Jan 25, 2010 3:00 PM EST
in Game Threads
Email
PrintGeorgetown Hoyas at Syracuse Orange, Jan 25, 2010 7:00 PM EST
TV: ESPN
Radio: ESPN980
Online: Hoyas vs Orange coverage
SB Nation: Troy Nunes Is An Absolute Magician
Time: 7:00 PM EST
Location: Carrier Dome, Syracuse, Canada
View from the Student Section - A Perspective from Campus:
The only thing that I hate more than Syracuse basketball is…wait, I don’t hate anything more than Syracuse basketball. When I enrolled at Georgetown, I decided to stop eating oranges and chose to burn every article of clothing that was that awful color. Since that time, all of my views of Syracuse have been confirmed.
I traveled on the student road trip to Syracuse last year. The whole city has a depressing feel. While there, I came to the conclusion that nuclear waste must have gotten into the water system and made the student body a bunch of idiots, but then I realized that the admissions department is to blame for that. In addition, some Syracuse genius decided it would be an amazing idea to stick Georgetown students in the Syracuse student section, surrounded by drunk morons. I thought that it was ridiculous that the student body would throw assorted refreshments and even glass bottles at us the whole game, until I realized that Eric Devendorf is their role model. His ugly face still haunts the nightmares of girls all over the country.
A win against the thugs that make up the Syracuse basketball team would be huge. I want to see Andy Rautins, who consumes half of America’s hair gel production, get a swift kick in the crotch. Also, I think it must be said that Onuaku looks a little too much like the marshmallow man. He also shoots free throws like Vernon Macklin. Here’s to a win at the hellhole! Hoya Saxa!
View from the Court Side Seats - A Perspective from OldHoya:
OldHoya states it emphatically - the most important game in Georgetown-Syracuse basetball took place on February 13, 1980. Before that game, there was no rivalry between the schools but when the game was over and John Thompson grabbed the mic, the longest running Big East feud was firmly established.
But a YoungHoya at the time, our resident OldHoya was climbing the career ladder and never attended a game at Cuse's Manley Fieldhouse, an older gym that the Orangemen were to leave for the new Carrier Dome following the Georgetown game. Cuse boasted a 57 game winning streak heading into the game and were certain that the game would be a walk.
The game didn't open well for Gtown, who trailed Cuse 30-16 at haltime. That team featured Al Dutch, Craig Shelton (Gtown's first major recruit - beat out Al McGuire to land him), and Sleepy Floyd (Gtown's 3 most highly regarded recruits to date) along with Ed Spriggs and John Duren. Well, Sleepy led the charge and hit 2 free throws to win the game 52-50. Big John grabbed the mic and announced "Manley Fieldhouse is officially closed." A legendary quote from a legendary coach.
Interestingly, Gtown went on to lose an Elite 8 game to Iowa that year - the single worst loss OldHoya has ever taken (narrowly edging out Ray Allen's last second shot to defeat Gtown in the Big East tournament).
Finally, Old Hoya had written his blogpost over the weekend, but wanted to commend Sleepy Hoya for some great perspective on the program at that time and some truly vivid memories of our early years. His recollections also caused Old Hoya to remember the previous year (1978-1979) ECAC game final in which the HOYAS beat Syracuse 66-58 and Old Hoya is 99% sure that game was played in, of all places, Maryland's Cole field House.
View from the Sportsbook (via DonBest) - A Perspective from Vegas:
Syracuse -5.5. O/U 147.5.
- Georgetown is 0-2 ATS in games after scoring 80 points or more.
- Syracuse is 10-4 ATS when playing teams with a winning record, and 5-1 ATS when the total is between 140 and 149.5.
- The Hoyas are 1-7 in the previous 8 games it has played Cuse in the Carrier Dome when both teams were ranked in the Top 10.
What do these stats mean? It means that Syracuse is going to win this game in the Carrier Dome by at least 6 points. The pick is Syracuse -5.5 with a final score of Cuse 76 - Hoyas 69. Georgetown is playing well, but this is a tough place to play and a tough game to win. I think the Hoyas can beat Syracuse, I just think that is more likely to happen at the Verizon Center on February 18th than tonight.
As a Hoyas fan I'm looking for Georgetown to keep this competitive and have a chance to win down the stretch. As a gambler I'm looking for Cuse to pull away in the last couple of minutes, with free throws determining the cover.
On the season:
The Hoyas are currently 8-6 ATS (that's 'Against The Spread' for those just tuning in).
Georgetown is 3-1 ATS on the Road, 3-5 ATS at Home, and 2-0 on Neutral Courts.
Casual Hoya is 8-6 ATS.
www.CasualHoya.com : Where Your Money Stays And Plays.
Casually.
Check back throughout the day for updated media coverage and during the game for updates.
327 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
I like the OVER in this one… Final will be 81-73 – i just have no idea who will win…
By the way, Orangemen star forward Wes Johnson in today’s NYT:
"It definitely is corrupt," Johnson said. He added: "I didn’t realize what a crazy business it is. That’s how it is. It’s always been like that. I’m just glad I ended up on the right. I definitely found paradise."
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/25/sports/ncaabasketball/25syracuse.html
by Takin' the Points on Jan 25, 2010 3:09 PM EST reply actions
paradise= code for a large bribe
It's not me, It's you
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Jan 25, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Don't know who will win
But I don’t think Georgetown loses by more than 5. 3 losses this year have come on a combined 12 points
It's not you, it's me.
Zone busters
Tough to shoot well in those big domes since depth perception is all off and stuff.
Feel good about Cuse -5.5, hope Hoyas win outright since a cover is pointless and won’t be profitable.
Casually.
Zone offense
In a surprising twist, Gtown actually did a nice job in the second half against the Rutgers zone. Granted, Rutgers stinks and doesn’t play hard but the Hoyas got some nice movement rather than standing around as they often do.
by itsallthatmatters on Jan 25, 2010 3:22 PM EST reply actions
In all honesty
This is a reallllly tough game for our Hoyas.
I am going in soberly knowing we could win but not believing we will win. I hope to find myself drunk and ecstatic by the end of this game.
High fives only on three pointers.
by TheYellofAllYells on Jan 25, 2010 3:26 PM EST reply actions
yes Cuse is a good team,
and they’ve dominated their soft schedule, BUT
their schedule is just that: soft. They’ve faced two teams currently in the top 25, Pitt and WVU, they are 1-1, with their one victory being by one point.
They’re good at beating good, but unranked teams (ND, Florida, UNC, Memphis)
Just saying, there is a possibility that the Cuse game turns into another Pitt game. An overhyped team gets outplayed by a better Hoya squad.
It's not me, It's you
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Jan 25, 2010 3:26 PM EST reply actions
Easy now.....
let’s not get the “Jinx” Gods working against us on this one…..
Syracuse is a good team and has won the games that they were expected to….. We cannot exactly state the same (whither ODU)…..
I hope that you are YellOfAllYells is drunk and cheering loudly at the end as well….. but remember, we are a very good AND YOUNG team… that is still developing……
by MerlinWilson'sSister on Jan 25, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
Ok my bad
how about this… there is no way we can win tonight. The mixture of odors stemming from tens of thousands of unwashed Syracuseans combined with the god awful smell of Andy Rautins’ hair gel (think Something About Mary only with Devendorf instead of Ben Stiller) will be too much for our brave hoyas… oh woe is us :(
It's not me, It's you
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Jan 25, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Although a loss is imminent
It will not be season ending. And even so, my pick has to be GEORGETOWN +5.5. A loss, but a close one. It should be noted I went 0-2 yesterday. And I am 8-6 ATS picking Hoyas games.
rest assured
i’ll at least be drunk.
High fives only on three pointers.
by TheYellofAllYells on Jan 25, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
GOD DAMN RIGHT
High fives only on three pointers.
by TheYellofAllYells on Jan 25, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
old hoya is right in remembering the great georgetown syracuse game in the finals of the ecac tournament at cole field house. that was a great great to be at. And if my memory is right, which it rarely is anymore, that beat down included beating young mr rautin’s, of hair gel fame, dad
Triple Tech
A loss will only be acceptable if JTIII gets a triple technical in the process.
I think we have a serious chance of winning if Wright is 4-5 from 3 again. If he misses his first 3 shots, we are done right there.
Maybe its time for Hollis to come out of nowhere and score +20.
by RileysDressLikeAHoyaJersey on Jan 25, 2010 5:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Hold your horses there partner...
…this game’s not over after 3 Chris Wright shots no matter how they go. But yeah, our most important offensive goal in the game will be to make those outside shots early to stretch that zone, get comfortable, etc. That’s not just Wright’s job – going to need at least 3 good takes from Clark, a much better jump-shooting performance from Freeman than he has shown since UConn, and I don’t know about 20 from Hollis, but hopefully he can replicate those hits he had against Rutgers because I don’t see Syracuse chasing him down to the corner all the time…he’ll get the looks.
That said, this is a rivalry game, and we actually have a chance to do some damage down low. Capitalizing on ’Cuse’s weakness on the defensive glass could be just as effective a strategy as hitting those jumpers outright if the ball flies our way. Monroe’s been becoming the guy we expected all along – let’s see if he plays angry.
Pre Game Articles
Old Rivalry, New Chapter – 13WHAM.com – Rochester News, Weather, and Sports
In a rivalry game like this, it’s hard to make a realistic prediction. It gets even more difficult when the game is between two highly ranked teams. You could say it could be a slam dunk for Syracuse, but then again, John Thompson closed Manly Field House.
What they’re saying about Syracuse vs. Georgetown | Orange Basketball Blog – syracuse.com
"Don’t get me wrong. Syracuse is a very, very good team. They are deeper than Georgetown top to bottom and have handled all the big tests thrown their way this season put aside Pittsburgh. “But something about this Georgetown game is bugging me.”
Georgetown-Syracuse: a rivalry for the ages, and a new generation – washingtonpost.com
“It’s evident,” says junior guard Chris Wright, who is from Bowie. “The battle we’re going to be in Monday is something that’s been happening for a long time. We all understand that. And we have to understand that we’re carrying on a tradition, and we have to honor that and play our hearts out for that game.”
New ‘Shut it Down’ shirts hit stores in time for SU/Georgetown game – News10Now.com
“It’s not what I think we’re going to do it’s what I know we’re going to do and we’re going to take the crown because Georgetown’s our rival and we’re going to do what we need to do,” said Syracuse University senior Ari Slavin.
Good talk.
shut it down
Manley Field House?
zing.
High fives only on three pointers.
by TheYellofAllYells on Jan 25, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
Keys
I think our offense is operating at a high enough level to be fine. We’re far from perfect, but this isn’t like past years when if Greenie or Roy isn’t playing well everything shuts down. The key is going to be defense. We’ve been getting murdered by teams that shoot well from outside, particularly when we go zone/match-up zone. Can we keep Rautins and Johnson from both going off from behind 3? If we hold them to a combined 30, we’re in good shape. If we’re not switching on screens, we’re going to be F’d.
theory
if last year’s team took cuse to overtime
this year’s takes them behind the woodshed.
::crosses fingers::
I rushed the court on January 21st, 2006
booty call
If you tell me a Keeping Up With The Kardashians rerun is on then I am right there with you.
Casually.
Love the sound of that...
2 trips and 2 turnovers…..
by MerlinWilson'sSister on Jan 25, 2010 7:05 PM EST reply actions
don't worry..... when wemiss our first FG attempt
you’ll tell us its all over
by MerlinWilson'sSister on Jan 25, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
Is it to earlyto start the chant...
Man Lee Field House
by MerlinWilson'sSister on Jan 25, 2010 7:09 PM EST reply actions
JTIII is taking coaching tips,....
from Dougherty
by MerlinWilson'sSister on Jan 25, 2010 7:13 PM EST reply actions
GLOBAL PHENOMENON:
I’d like to extend a warm greeting to our follower in Korea
91 Korea, Republic of Seoul, Seoul-t’ukpyolsi
Casually.
oooh, but I can't wait for A Student Perspective
Much to learn about South Ontario Community College, I have
KBE
Not...
“right on campus!”
by Vee Sanford's Next-door Neighbor on Jan 25, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
$$
Otto’s Army is like Hoya Blue except Hoya Blue doesn’t deliver envelopes stuffed with cash in the players’ dorm rooms.
Casually.
its ok.... hes in for D and rebounding....
he just needs some confidence on offense
by MerlinWilson'sSister on Jan 25, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions
over at the cuse blog...
SCOOOOOOOP
MOTHERFUCKING JARDINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by actioncuse on Jan 25, 2010 7:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Casually.
my response
hey cuse!
lick my balls!
Casually.
by CasualHoya on Jan 25, 2010 7:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Casually.
Sometimes you have to stoop to their level...
After all, Helen Keller didn’t learn to write by reading Shakespeare.
please take Hollis out...... PLEEEEEZ
by MerlinWilson'sSister on Jan 25, 2010 7:32 PM EST reply actions
We are up by 2
And shooting 83 percent from three. That is not going to last. So we are going to lose by 150. That is science.
Because
Ottos army left bags of cash outside the refs’ hotel rooms.
by TheDoctorIsIn on Jan 25, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
i can transform ya
really enjoying the new chris brown joint:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kta9If-sP4s
Casually.
2-3
An outright killer when gtown gets stagnant. Need to pass and xut
by itsallthatmatters on Jan 25, 2010 7:36 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I like Benimon so much better than Hollis
by MerlinWilson'sSister on Jan 25, 2010 7:37 PM EST reply actions
Walk ons
Doing some nice cheering. Jgd is awful for calling them scum
by itsallthatmatters on Jan 25, 2010 7:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I cheer well too
Wanna give me some free sneakers? I could score at least the same amount of points as our bench has tonight so far. Thats a promise
switch that - 1/0
Too much syracuse on tv makes me stoopid
if we don't score soon...
we’ll need the Jackson 5
by MerlinWilson'sSister on Jan 25, 2010 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
Ok
We stole some minutes from the bench, down 5. Starters rested and not in foul trouble. We will be just fine
It's not you, it's me.
as long as we can figure a way to break the 2-3......
and we will ABSOLUTELY need to hit every shot that Vaughn and Monroe take from 2-3ft…
by MerlinWilson'sSister on Jan 25, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
down 5 at half
11-0 run to end the half for Cuse
benimon and thompson’s +/- numbers likely off the charts awful
Casually.
Digger talking about how much Syracuse relied on bench points
Is Gtown aware that points by subs count just as much as those by starters?
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
No
It’s like people who think winning a baseball game in September is worth more than winning one in April.
by James Kannengieser on Jan 25, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Hubert Davis talking about bench points too
Are they reading my posts from games past???…. when will they bring up the turnovers….
by MerlinWilson'sSister on Jan 25, 2010 7:48 PM EST reply actions
The miracle of technology
I’m on a bus right now with free wi-fi, which, while I cant access espn360, means I can listen to the game on the radio! Imagine, radio on an automobile! This is the future.
And its only 2 minutes behind!
The Global Phenomenon
Looking at a 4,000+ visit and 10,000+ page view day. Outstanding.
by James Kannengieser on Jan 25, 2010 7:50 PM EST reply actions
Everyone relax
We are a second half team. We came back all the way against Nova at Nova. We beat UConn after being down 15 at half. We were tied with Pitt then dominated the 2nd half. Let’s have faith in this team and our coach to make some adjustments. Rautins isn’t hitting those circus 3s, no one is in foul trouble, and we stole some minutes with Hollis and Jerrelle. Them playing in this game, no matter how bad, is important to our future success this year.
It's not you, it's me.
Agreed......
I just hope that we didn’t use our 2nd half push at the beginning of this 1st half….
We need a momentum change…… plus Clark to get hot….
The boyz just need to not be intimidated by the environment….
by MerlinWilson'sSister on Jan 25, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
wish this was on masn
missing the 6OT.com commercial
KBE
by SirHoya on Jan 25, 2010 8:00 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
agree
need to be more aggressive. foul jackson and onuaku – they are horrendous from the line
Good talk.
latest bracketology
Providence
(6) BUTLER (16-4)
(11) OLD DOMINION (16-5)
(3) Georgetown (15-3)
(14) COASTAL CAROLINA (14-3) / Big South
Casually.
Zone offense
Pass back and forth 3 times with Monroe on the perimeter and Jack one? Why not get Monroe in the middle?
by itsallthatmatters on Jan 25, 2010 8:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Weight room
Ouch. Gtown outmuscled on that series
going down 10 when hoyas haven’t been scoring is a real problen
by itsallthatmatters on Jan 25, 2010 8:10 PM EST via mobile reply actions
just getting beat
plain and simple. vaughn and monroe having issues with ’cuse lardasses underneath.
Casually.
'lottery pick without question'
really? haven’t GMs in the nba learned from mistakes just like wes johnson like marvin williams?
Casually.
It would be really nice
If we could go without scoring droughts that last half the game
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Hmm
To have a chance, gtown has to stop settling or the first open three on each possession
by itsallthatmatters on Jan 25, 2010 8:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
from the cuse board...
GO ORANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Greg monroe likes long walks on the beach, lipstick, and sucking Orange cock!
by actioncuse on Jan 25, 2010 8:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
stay classy.
Casually.
also from cuse board...
I spent the first 3 minutes of this game waiting for a treadmill.
I spent the rest of the first half on the treadmill and now I’m home for the entire second half.
by adselver15 on Jan 25, 2010 8:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Casually.
jesus
"The winner will be showered with praise; the loser will be taunted and booed until my throat is sore!"
Why can't we do 2 good things in a row?
Instead of 1 solid play followed by a mistake?
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
Did our best there
To turn the Syracuse TO into no points.
I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.
that kid came from Texas? what are they paying him?
"The winner will be showered with praise; the loser will be taunted and booed until my throat is sore!"
whats the coveR
"The winner will be showered with praise; the loser will be taunted and booed until my throat is sore!"
alums
I guess they couldn’t get Billy Owens to break his shift at the Shell station to make it to the game
Casually.
phenomenon
i wonder what the weather is like for our reader in manila!
10
Philippines Manila
welcome!
Casually.
Why?
Terrible fifth foul call, yes but Monroe should never have put himself in that position.
by itsallthatmatters on Jan 25, 2010 8:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Vaughn
A karate chop for thr third foul? Nice bookend with his 3 points
by itsallthatmatters on Jan 25, 2010 8:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I wish my parents aborted me
It's not you, it's me.
by JGD on Jan 25, 2010 8:43 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Cuse
Seems to work on the dunk shot a lot more than gtown does. Really getting outmuscled over the whole game
by itsallthatmatters on Jan 25, 2010 8:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Is this a joke?
Andy rautins and his father have matching tattoos? And Andy was jawing at Jason Clark?there is no dignity in this game
by itsallthatmatters on Jan 25, 2010 8:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Ouch
Not sure about 20 points but cuse is clearly better and tougher than gtown
by itsallthatmatters on Jan 25, 2010 8:58 PM EST via mobile reply actions
well
that is a nice wakeup call
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Jan 25, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
I'm Sorry
I returned from an intramural basketball game during the first TV timeout when we were up 14-2, and it was all downhill from there. I take full responsibility for the loss.
by Jerrelle Benimon's Socks on Jan 25, 2010 9:01 PM EST reply actions
just wallowed a while on Nunes
but my eyes began to bleed.
On to Saturday to accelerate the collapse.
KBE
ahhhhhhhhhhh
Anyone up for Orange smashing in Red Square? I already spat on the pieces of orange paper in my room and crushed an orange piece of candy, but it isn’t quite enough.
Do you have anything better to do after a win?
oh wait, nothing to do in Syracuse, NY…
by TheDoctorIsIn on Jan 25, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
dont worry, he'll leave by 10pm
thats when his mom goes to bed so he can use the air pump to inflate his blowup doll
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Jan 25, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
you are actually close
I have to blow up the tires on my bicycle, but that’s such an awesome picture I couldn’t resist.
That makes no sense
That might be the dumbest thing I heard…ever.
by TheDoctorIsIn on Jan 26, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
well...
I hated Syracuse this morning and now I really hate them. Plus it’s Monday night, I’m pissed off and I have to go to work tomorrow.
To the Orange fans on this blog…all I can say is, “”http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smh" >SMH," either interpretation.
We’re still good…right now the Orange are better but we’ll see if the refs make the same calls and their defense is still as effective on February 18. Time to refocus on Duke Saturday.
High fives only on three pointers.
by TheYellofAllYells on Jan 25, 2010 10:06 PM EST reply actions
Syracuse's 66% graduate rate
their bball team may be good now, but they all go one and done to get out of that shithole they call a school
It's not me, It's you
by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Jan 25, 2010 11:20 PM EST reply actions
Let me get this straight?
You constantly bring up our graduation rate as a way to make yourselves feel better that your current coaching staff has a complete inability to recruit top players who even have a prayer of being effective in the NBA? OK I got it.
by Obscuredv1sions44 on Jan 25, 2010 11:51 PM EST reply actions
You will work for me one day.
That is all.
by TheDoctorIsIn on Jan 26, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
NBA
Georgetown has had a former player start in every single NBA all start game for the last 25 years. Can Syracuse say the same?
lick my taint.
High fives only on three pointers.
by TheYellofAllYells on Jan 26, 2010 8:43 AM EST up reply actions
for the last 25 years?
What part of
Current Coaching Staffdid i lose you on?
by Obscuredv1sions44 on Jan 26, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
i think he asked you a different question
and lost you.
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Jan 26, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
buddy
it’s a comment thread where people reply to other peoples comments…is that really difficult for you to follow?
High fives only on three pointers.
by TheYellofAllYells on Jan 26, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
I love questions that are so pointed that they only have one answer
How many NBA all-stars have you had with the last name Anthony?
Yeah what now?!. Cuse rocks!
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Jan 26, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Yes.
Carmelo Anthony started all 82 games in ‘03-’04.
Suck my orange balls.
I don't think
you understood the question. To be expected I suppose.
High fives only on three pointers.
by TheYellofAllYells on Jan 26, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
he didnt understand it
reading comp not stressed at cuse.
Good talk.
by Hire Esherick on Jan 26, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
EASY WAY TO SOLVE THIS:
Number of players in the NBA from Cuse who can be confused with a delicious candy bar: 1
Number of players in the NBA from Gtown who can be confused with a delicious candy bar: 0
CUSE RULES!
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
Certain photos copyright © 2012 by Associated Press or Getty Images. Any commercial use or distribution without the express written consent of Associated Press and Getty Images is strictly prohibited.
