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Seton Hall Pirates (10-5, 1-3) vs. #11 Georgetown Hoyas (12-2, 3-1)

Seton Hall Pirates at Georgetown Hoyas, Jan 14, 2010 7:00 PM EST


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TV: ESPN
Radio: ESPN980
Online: Pirates vs Hoyas coverage
SB Nation: Gonzo Ball
Time: 7:00 PM EST
Location: Verizon Center, Washington, DC

View from the Student Section - A Perspective from Campus:

Holy [insert expletive]! Austin Freeman is my messiah, sorry Jesuits. He must have kept off the steak Friday night and eaten a big bowl of Wheaties in the morning.

However, as great as this feels, last year we let the wins get to our heads, so we must look forward to a very talented Seton Hall. Leaving the Prudential Center last year was more unpleasant than having my fingernails pulled out one by one, not that I have ever experienced it, but I can imagine it would be somewhat painful. And even though Jeremy Hazell looks a little bit like Dumbo, he can play basketball pretty well. In a tough Big East conference, this is a must win game.

I only have one grievance to voice. The problem with a 7:00 pm start is that I will be running from my class to make it there. Georgetown seems to have its priorities mixed up, having classes interfere with basketball games. Let's run up the score. Hoya Saxa!

View from the Court Side Seats - A Perspective from OldHoya:

OldHoya is still recovering from Saturday's drama but can sum up his feelings about Seton Hall pretty succinctly: He hasn't given them a moment's thought or taken them seriously since PJ Carlisemo was their head coach (Casual Note: might have been a mistake to overlook them based on last year's dismal performance).

Might also be time to credit OldHoya's Wife with leading the charge to beat UConn - after sitting with OldHoya for the first half, she returned to her normal seats and Austin felt inspired to drop 28. Though he enjoys sitting with his wife, OldHoya recognizes that Gtown needs a helping hand and she'll be sitting in the second half seats.

View from the Sportsbook (via DonBest) - A Perspective from Vegas:

Georgetown -7.  O/U 144. (Casual Note: As of 6pm eastern, the line has moved to -6 and 145.5)

Facts you need to know:

  • Georgetown is 1-4 ATS at Home
  • In its last 3 games as a road underdog of 6.5 to 9 points, the Hall is 3-0.
  • Georgetown is 0-1 as a home favorite of 6.5 to 9 points.
  • Georgetown is 1-3 ATS against Conference opponents.
  • Seton Hall is 2-0 ATS versus Georgetown over the last 3 seasons.
  • Seton Hall is 1-4 ATS against 'good defensive teams', defined by teams that allow less than 64 points per game.
  • In Seton Hall's 65-60 win over Georgetown last year, the Hoyas lost a game in which they managed to dictate the tempo, primarily due to horrendously sloppy play at both ends of the court.  I know this because I was there, and it was awful.

    This Seton Hall team is primarily the same as last year's, so assuming the Hoyas can contain gunner Jeremy Hazell, I'm tossing out the idea of this turning into an offensive explosion.  I'm also putting a lot of faith into that last bullet point, because I think Georgetown's defense is good enough to keep the Hall in the 60s, and Georgetown's offense against a relatively small Hall team (one dude over 6'9", and he's a 340 lb freshman) should be good enough to climb into the 70s.  The Hall shoots only 33% from 3 (Georgetown is closer to 37%), and the Hall is woeful from the charity stripe (65%).  Against one of the better defensive squads in the country, these stats don't add up to a cover.

    The pick is Georgetown -7, and I'm going UNDER with a final score of Georgetown 74 - Pirates 66

    On the season:

    The Hoyas are currently 5-5 ATS (that's 'Against The Spread' for those just tuning in).

    Georgetown is 2-1 ATS on the Road, 1-4 ATS at Home, and 2-0 on Neutral Courts.

    Casual Hoya is 6-4 ATS. 

    www.casualhoya.com : Where Your Money Stays And Plays.

    Casually.

    Check back throughout the day for updated media coverage and during the game for updates.

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    Not going to happen.

    Seven points is just too many. Having fallen to 6-4 ATS and into a tie with Casual, I am going to show some differentiation here and go SETON HALL +7 to make the leap to a stunning 7-4. Best case scenario is we are up 10 or 11 in the waning minutes, a few missed shots by Wright, some clutch Pirate threes and suddenly it’s an eight point game with 45 seconds to play. We know how that ends. Six-point victory. Of course, the mostly likely outcome is an outright loss. Still good for my stats!

    by lordnick on Jan 14, 2010 3:06 PM EST reply actions  

    Articles

    Dick Vitale: Greg Monroe Needs To Get Selfish – ESPN
    Monroe has to get more touches and more good looks at the basket. When Connecticut held him in check in the first half of last weekend’s game, adjustments were made and the Georgetown big man went to the basket more in the second half. I don’t like a guy who is 6-11 drifting on the perimeter so much. He has to get to the basket. To be an All-American, you have to be assertive. Monroe is a good kid who does what coaches tell him to do. He is a little too passive at times.

    Moving forward after stirring win over U-Conn., Georgetown can’t let down its guard – washingtonpost.com
    The final key for the Hoyas is to not let their own heroics in Saturday’s victory over Connecticut go to their heads and lead to a false sense of invincibility. No chance, sophomore center Greg Monroe said. “We did show some resilience in that game,” Monroe conceded, “but that’s not a place we want to gain confidence from. That’s not something you want to do every time. That was a good win; we understand what we can do, coming from behind. But I think we’d rather be in a position where we’re controlling most of the game, and we’re playing at the pace we want to.” Junior forward Julian Vaughn sees it much the same way. “We can’t get all cocky because we came back and won,” Vaughn said. “We could easily have lost that game by a lot.”

     

     

    Good talk.

    by Hire Esherick on Jan 14, 2010 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

    Vitale article

    Agree that Monroe has to get fed the ball in the low post more, though, in terms of FG percentage its worth noting that both Wright and Freeman (& Vaughn I think) have better FG percentages. Also worth noting: Monroe has the highest turnovers per game on the team.

    Still with Monroe’s passing ability, if we feed him in the low post more, I think good things will happen.

    by SomebodyBuyAustinaSteak on Jan 14, 2010 3:23 PM EST reply actions  

    Happy Nikita Day!

    As painful as it is to recall (because of what happened over the remainder of the season after last year’s innagural Nikita Day)….today is the one year anniversary of the Hoyas ‘smack down’ over Syracuse… a most satisfying win….and even Mescheriakov hit successive 3 point shots (almost causing a need for Depends from my seat in Sec. 201)…… little did I know as I hoisted a few at Clyde’s that night……the awfulness that was to follow…..
    THE CLOCK struck midnight…. the next day, a flock of geese knocked out both engines on Sully’s US Air plane causing it to land in the Hudson…. the next weekend was Duke… where Sapp and Wright decided to stage a preview of the Pacquiao-Cotto bout……. missed free throws at the end of regulation against Cincinnati…. and on and on……and the season went in the cr*pper from there…. :-(

    by MerlinWilson'sSister on Jan 14, 2010 3:27 PM EST reply actions  

    Post Play

    The last time we played an undersized team, Monroe shot 6 times. He needs to get more touches in the post than that tonight. This game truly needs to be played from the inside out.

    "It was almost like if Harry didn't call it, it wasn't real." - Jayson Stark
    SB Nation

    by Chris Haines on Jan 14, 2010 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

    Amen....

    Amen to that… the inside game should set up the outside game against smaller teams…..not the other way around…..

    and also need to mix in some 2-3 zone D from time to time (as we did against U Cons)…anyone ever notice how our rebounding improves when we go into the zone since Monroe and Vaughn are not out at the top of the key????

    by MerlinWilson'sSister on Jan 14, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

    Banishment

    Does the banishment from Section 102 still stand?

    “You don’t F with a streak!”
                                   -Crash Davis

    Blip

    by JahidiLikesPie on Jan 14, 2010 4:04 PM EST reply actions  

    i say absolutely

    keep him out of his seats. for the hoyas sake.

    Good talk.

    by Hire Esherick on Jan 14, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

    Seton Hall?

    If the Hoyas can’t beat Seton Hall with me in my seat than they deserve to lose and I deserve to watch them.

    by lordnick on Jan 14, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

    In the immortal tweets of henry sims:

    “Not really one to take revenge on someone, But tonight we gettin revenge on these niggas! Let’s go fellas!”

    That’s what I like to hear!

    by hoyasincebirth on Jan 14, 2010 5:18 PM EST reply actions  

    Does anyone else get a bit uneasy with

    these live Tweets coming in through this site…… these guys are even Tweeting from class…… at some point this is going to blow up and not reflect well on these student/athletes……

    by MerlinWilson'sSister on Jan 14, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

    Easy Grandma

    It's not you, it's me.

    by JGD on Jan 14, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

    gtown probably has least amount of players on twitter right now

    earlier this week a UNC guard tweeted a picture of a car running into their team bus

    Good talk.

    by Hire Esherick on Jan 14, 2010 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

    Really?

    Our tweam needs to step up if we are going to compete for top-flight recruits!

    Oh, and Monroe should have asked that girl for some M&Ms

    Btw, I am over 30.

    Blip

    by JahidiLikesPie on Jan 14, 2010 6:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

    Casual Note:

    We at Casual Hoya in no way, shape or form advocate using Twitter and tweeting while in class.

    Having said that, we at Casual Hoya advocate using Twitter and tweeting while in class.

    Casually.

    by CasualHoya on Jan 14, 2010 5:41 PM EST reply actions  

    enemy no.1

    asshole who called the T on monroe in durham

    also the guy, along with karl hess and mike stephens, who called 66 fouls during the louisville nova game.

    hess is reffing tonight as well

    Good talk.

    by Hire Esherick on Jan 14, 2010 6:41 PM EST reply actions  

    Actually

    Cahill hates us. Hess is just an awful ref.

    Blip

    by JahidiLikesPie on Jan 14, 2010 6:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

    CAHILL!!!!

    Screw this! Might as well go home now!!!

    Blip

    by JahidiLikesPie on Jan 14, 2010 6:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

    warmups

    Benimon not wearing customary black sneaks. Totally part of the appeal of his game

    "It was almost like if Harry didn't call it, it wasn't real." - Jayson Stark
    SB Nation

    by Chris Haines on Jan 14, 2010 6:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

    Still rocking black socks though

    "It was almost like if Harry didn't call it, it wasn't real." - Jayson Stark
    SB Nation

    by Chris Haines on Jan 14, 2010 6:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

    they turned the lights out for our intro

    SICK. Feel like I’m in a pro arena

    Good talk.

    by Hire Esherick on Jan 14, 2010 7:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

    loss imminent

    Len Elmore and Mike Patrick calling the game.

    Casually.

    by CasualHoya on Jan 14, 2010 7:02 PM EST reply actions  

    Memo to vaughn

    There’s a reason they don’t guard you at the three. Get in the paint

    by itsallthatmatters on Jan 14, 2010 7:05 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

    Memo received

    Vaughn 2-2 on dunks. And just served nuts to herb pope on the and one

    by itsallthatmatters on Jan 14, 2010 7:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

    Students

    Not the best turnout but not awful. The upside is that the incomparable male cheerleader is bringing it. I mock plenty of people but this dude is the best. 110% every play

    by itsallthatmatters on Jan 14, 2010 7:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

    First sub

    Not surprisingly, it’s Thompson but sims outstanding so far and involved in the game

    by itsallthatmatters on Jan 14, 2010 7:14 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

    14-7 w 13 to go

    Hoyas getting plenty of good looks early with ball movement especially impressive.

    Vaughn with 4 pts and 3 rebs.

    Casually.

    by CasualHoya on Jan 14, 2010 7:15 PM EST reply actions  

    not good

    Seton Hall averaging one turnover per minute.

    Casually.

    by CasualHoya on Jan 14, 2010 7:19 PM EST reply actions  

    21-7 w 12

    chris wright is playing out of his gourd

    Casually.

    by CasualHoya on Jan 14, 2010 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

    House

    Anyone have a seton hall media guide? They have a guy who must be 7’ and 350 pounds

    by itsallthatmatters on Jan 14, 2010 7:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

    Huge!

    Sims making a first half appearance. Big moment for the rookie twitterer

    by itsallthatmatters on Jan 14, 2010 7:26 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

    Melvyn Oliver

    Freshman out of Long Beach, Ca.

    The dude is 6’9" and 340 pounds.

    Casually.

    by CasualHoya on Jan 14, 2010 7:27 PM EST reply actions  

    Monroe

    Seems to be flexing his left knee on the bench.

    Uh oh.

    Casually.

    by CasualHoya on Jan 14, 2010 7:28 PM EST reply actions  

    cahill

    Does NOT like monroe.

    Blip

    by JahidiLikesPie on Jan 14, 2010 7:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

    cannonball

    Every time wright gets the ball I hear the bass line from “Cannonball” by the Breeders.

    Blip

    by JahidiLikesPie on Jan 14, 2010 7:46 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

    vee

    First BE minutes

    Good talk.

    by Hire Esherick on Jan 14, 2010 7:50 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

    mike patrick

    “Monroe has been virtually invisible in this game”

    Casually.

    by CasualHoya on Jan 14, 2010 7:50 PM EST reply actions  

    Inside Advantage

    Hoyas have 28 points in the paint.

    Seton Hall has 28 points.

    Casually.

    by CasualHoya on Jan 14, 2010 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

    This or that

    In a poll of hoyas, jay z better than kanye. Tremendous insight into the mind of the team though nowhere near as good as twitter

    by itsallthatmatters on Jan 14, 2010 8:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

    whatever

    heading to dinner.

    if we lose, let me know.

    Casually.

    by CasualHoya on Jan 14, 2010 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

    so

    Did monroe get off the team bus?
    Vaughn is awesome!
    Just saw sead walking around Verizon.
    This halftime beer line (for miller lite!) Is a debacle.

    by lordnick on Jan 14, 2010 8:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

    whatever you do

    STICK WITH MILLER LITE

    Casually.

    by CasualHoya on Jan 14, 2010 8:08 PM EST reply actions  

    wierd

    Corona $0.50 more expensive than casual peroni

    by lordnick on Jan 14, 2010 8:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

    oh yeah

    Cahill is the worst. He is referred to, by an aquaintance of mine, as the pretty pony. Watch him when he runs.

    by lordnick on Jan 14, 2010 8:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

    Coolbreeze

    Monroe really cruising right now anyone check to see what he tweeted before the game?

    by itsallthatmatters on Jan 14, 2010 8:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

    nice shirt

    Princeton Offense
    Georgetown Defense

    by lordnick on Jan 14, 2010 8:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

    Austin

    Still awesome

    It's not you, it's me.

    by JGD on Jan 14, 2010 8:24 PM EST reply actions  

    Vaughn

    Me likey

    It's not you, it's me.

    by JGD on Jan 14, 2010 8:25 PM EST reply actions  

    Upset!

    Appears hire escherick just talked to a girl. First time for everything

    by itsallthatmatters on Jan 14, 2010 8:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

    HENRY!!!!!

    It's not you, it's me.

    by JGD on Jan 14, 2010 8:29 PM EST reply actions  

    just when shit gets nasty

    they bring out our nasty cheerleaders

    Good talk.

    by Hire Esherick on Jan 14, 2010 8:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

    I'm really nervous

    Not hitting out FTs for shit

    It's not you, it's me.

    by JGD on Jan 14, 2010 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

    Dance cam

    Lordnick makes his yearly appearance. And loses

    by itsallthatmatters on Jan 14, 2010 8:45 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

    Hazell has a mug for the internet

    Never again in HD

    It's not you, it's me.

    by JGD on Jan 14, 2010 8:46 PM EST reply actions  

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