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Crap Day Feast: The Worst Hoya of the Decade

The Georgetown-Marquette game was a swift punch to the gut followed by a hard kick to the crotch.  Not only did Georgetown lose to an unranked, winless conference foe, but I also found out that the majority of ESPN viewers believed that Roy Hibbert was the best Hoya player of the decade.  I like Roy, don't get me wrong, and he certainly could be worthy of the award if best were defined as most improved out of high school or goofiest.  But he could not possibly have been a better player or more crucial to his team than Mike Sweetney or Jeff Green, right?

Well the wizards over at Hoya Prospectus took a look at the numbers and determined that while Big Roy stacked up surprisingly well to the others, Jeff Green was in fact the best Hoya of the decade.  They report:

Overall, though, I'd take Green. Yes, he's the worst rebounder of the three, the least efficient shooter and never really got his turnovers down. He also wasn't nearly the shotblocker Hibbert or junior Sweets was.

  • Jeff has a massive edge in minutes - I can't overstate this.  
  • Only Hibbert's senior year came close to his playmaking.  
  • He faced tougher competition than Mike and his own coach would take him as more valuable over Hibbert, I think.
  • He was the most versatile on offense and defense, which meant he could adjust to the talent around him rather than vice versa -- Jeff helped cover up Roy's and other's deficiencies, making everyone better. Versatility can be overrated, because it is cool, but players like Jeff and Ewing, Jr. are essential

All this thinking got me to do some more thinking, which led to a nap.  After waking up I began wondering who was the worst Hoya of the decade?

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I guess it is important to define what it means to be the worst before embarking on this witch hunt.  For purposes of this list, worst is based on both actual and expected performance.  Also, only scholarship players that saw or were expected to see playing are being considered (otherwise Craig Esherick would be the worst).

Here are some of the contenders:

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RaMell Ross - HS Class of 2000 - G

There were high expectations for Ross coming out of high school.  He was District co-Player of the Year and a McDonald's All-American Honorable Mention, despite sitting out his senior year of high school with a shoulder injury.

Ross never saw much court action for the Hoyas, mainly due to injuries.  He sat out what would have been his sophomore season with a foot injury and played only one game as a Red Shirt Junior after having shoulder surgery.

Despite the bad luck, Ross used his Georgetown education to land a job in the State Department post-graduation.

Verdict: Unlucky with injuries, but forward-thinking enough to use his degree to his advantage.  Injuries happen, Ross wrote the text book on how to move on from them.

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Wesley Wilson - HS Class of 1999 - C

Top 100 recruit coming out of high school, Wilson sat out his freshman year and played two full seasons for the Hoyas.  He left the team midway through his senior year due to personal reasons, although some suspect that a fight broke out in the locker room during the double overtime loss to Notre Dame, where Wilson picked up three cheap fouls in six minutes of play.

Despite being a sturdy 6'11'', Wilson never lived up to expectations, and averaged just 8 points and 5 rebounds a game per his career.

Wilson is also the only basketball player ever to eat by himself at the single's bar in the New South Cafeteria.

Verdict: Not sure what happened in the locker room in South Bend, but he did contribute to the team his junior year when he averaged over 12 points and 6 rebounds a game. 

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Brandon Bowman - HS Class of 2002 - F

The only reason Bowman is on this list is because I once heard him exclaim during a house party his freshman year that he was "one-and-done."  Not only was he far from a one-and-done player but he failed to realize that no Georgetown player has ever gone professional after a year.  Bad Brandon.

Bowman actually ranks in the Top 15 in both scoring and rebounding in Georgetown history.  He also had one of the most tumultuous careers in the Blue and Gray, as he threatened to transfer after freshman year, decided to come back thinking he would eventually be a team leader, but was soon overshadowed by Jeff Green.  

I will forever remember Bowman for fouling Colin Falls while he was shooting a three in the final seconds of the Georgetown - Notre Dame game when we were up four with ten seconds to go.  The foul erased a four-point lead and led to a double overtime thriller, three days after we had just beaten Duke. 

Verdict: Definitely not the worst Georgetown player of the decade, but often the most aggravating to watch.  His "throw-dribble" is now Georgetown legend.

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Jeremiah Rivers - HS Class of 2006 - G

Really only here because of his comments after transferring from Georgetown.  He actually did a good job on defense for the Hoyas, and would be an All American if defense only mattered.

Too bad he ran his mouth too much and has failed to find a barber in Indiana. 

Verdict: His offensive abilities were atrocious but he was a good defender.  Not the worst Hoya of the decade but definitely the most annoying.

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Nikita Mescheriakov - HS Class of 2007 - F

Saw action in 29 games as a Hoya and only had more points than combined fouls and turnovers in 7 of those games.  

He was a favorite punching bag of the Casual Hoya crew and has the disgraceful honor of being the only player to hit the top of the backboard to end a team's post-season hopes.  But taking a step back - what were we really expecting?  We knew he wasn't going to be good, yet we criticize him because he sucked...

Verdict: Based on play alone, he is the worst Hoya of the decade and the worst Hoya to start a game in the history of the world.  But compared to expectations - was he really that bad (the answer is yes, but not bad enough to warrant worst Hoya of the decade).

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Anthony Perry - HS Class of 1997 - F

I am defining the decade as beginning with the 2000-01 season, so only Perry's senior season would count for this list.  

Regardless, as a McDonald's All American coming out of high school and one of the top recruits in the country, you would expect Perry to at least be a starter during his senior season, right?  Not the case, after starting his sophomore and junior seasons (he sat out freshman year), Perry came off the bench to begin the decade and failed to come even remotely close to what was expected of him.  He averaged just 6.7 points and 2.3 rebounds a game as a senior, ceding playing time to Demetrius Hunter and Mike Sweetney.

Verdict: Certainly the most disappointing career at Georgetown, but not the worst this decade.

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Cornelio Guibunda - HS Class of 2004 - F

Pop Quiz: Who was the highest ranked Hoya out of the HS Class of 2004.  If you guessed Hoya of the Decade-Jeff Green, Roy Hibbert, Jon Wallace or Tyler Crawford, then you are wrong.  It was actually Cornelio Guibunda, an Esherick-recruit that saw action in four games as a Hoya, scoring a total of six points, before transferring to American.

If only Esherick had offered a scholarship to Joakim Noah over Cornelio Guibunda?  Limitless possibilities.

Verdict: He can't possibly be the worst because of his awesome sounding name, right...?


Honorable Mention
: Matt Causey

And the winner for Worst Hoya of the Decade is...

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via www.downtownbellingham.com

 

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Vernon Macklin - HS Class of 2006 - F

Back in my day they used to give McDonald's All American recognition to true players, not just kids with potential.  And you used to have to walk uphill both ways to receive the award.

Vernon was the first McDonald's All American player JT3 recruited and played like a walk-on.  It was obvious that the system was not a good fit for Macklin, and he was quickly overshadowed by Summers, Hibbert and Green.

Sad thing is that he would have seen significant playing time last year had he not transferred, enough to boost up his woeful 3.3 points and 1.8 rebounds per game while donning the Blue and Gray.  He also shot 31% from the free throw line while at Georgetown, which is a feat in itself.

Verdict: Maybe we were all just excited to land a top prospect and overlooked the fact that Macklin did not fit the system.  Maybe we set our expectations of Macklin too high.  Or maybe we forgot to check if Macklin was wearing two left shoes.  Either way, Macklin was the biggest bust of the decade and the worst player to wear the Georgetown Blue and Gray.

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Gerald Riley

There has to be room for Gerald Riley on that list

by Takin' the Points on Jan 12, 2010 3:22 PM EST reply actions  

riley

i dont think georgetown would have won a game if not for riley in 2003-04.

Good talk.

by Hire Esherick on Jan 12, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Vernon did have an auspicious start

As his OA, I was able to watch him approach a tiny girl on his first day, here’s how the conversation progressed:

VMack: Yo you got a boyfriend?
Little Girl: Yes
VMack: Nah you wanna be with Vernon

It's not you, it's me.

by JGD on Jan 12, 2010 3:24 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Incredible

At least he was good at something..

by NS353 on Jan 12, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Still not as good a pick-up line as Mutombo's

“Who wants to sex Dikembe tonight?” But a close second.

Is there anyway to shoehorn Kenny Brunner onto this list? Because I really think his name needs to be brought any and every time we discuss Worst Georgetown Player of _.

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 12, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

back in time.

As long as we’re doing the last decade, let’s go back a few, at least as far as decades in which i attended games.

The 90"s —There were so many bad players it’s hard to choose. My choice is David Paulus. he averaged a mere 1 point per game. How could we recruit the worst athelete in the family. Based on lineage, he was also probably an all american jerk.

The 80’s David Blue was a highly regarded prospect out of then power Prospect Hall High School in Frederick Md. David never distinguished himself, in fact David never broke a sweat or changed facial expression during his entire career. He just did his hair just right before each game and then proceeded to admire himself.

The 70’s Lonnie Duren. How can anyone related to the great John Duren manage to be so bad. Lonnie went two full seasons without scoring a single point, but still managed to be a crowd favorite. In fairness, Esherick did squeeze a lot of his playing time. Lonnie delighted all of us by putting up 13 points his senior season.,.that was for the entire season.

Anybody remember the 60’s?

by sleepyhoya on Jan 12, 2010 3:49 PM EST reply actions  

90's

Duane Spencer
Kevin Millen.

No 90’s list can be complete without them

George Butler only b/c he was allegedly booted for cheating.

Blip

by JahidiLikesPie on Jan 12, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll defend Matt Causey

He doesn’t deserve to be listed on this list because he had a serviceable senior year at Tech. For a guy that bounced around A LOT, he played with passion and heart in his last season. Some guys just struggle to find their place. I remember Duke fans chanting “FRODO” whenever he had the ball.

Causey had a 111:72 A:T ratio in his season at Tech, which ain’t great but ain’t bad. He shot 0.424 from beyond the arc. Tech also went 1-1 against Big East squads that season beating ND (BE #2) and losing to UConn (BE #4).

So maybe he didn’t live up to expectations for you guys but he didn’t totally suck for the final quarter of his entire career (unlike the other guys listed).

I guess the atmosphere that I've tried to create here is that I'm a friend first and a boss second, and probably an entertainer third.

by BirdGT on Jan 12, 2010 3:59 PM EST reply actions  

fair enough

but while he was a hoya – he wasnt that good

granted he played on quite possibly the worst hoya team since big john joined in 72

Good talk.

by Hire Esherick on Jan 12, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Can I get that in a pie graph?

I keed, I keed. I thought I had escaped the clutches of FTRS only to find you here?

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 12, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Wesley Wilson actually moved onto my floor on Darnall after quitting the team. Good guy actually. Best story – One night, the guy next door can hear Wilson with a lady friend. The phrase “TOO BIG! TOO BIG!!” was definitely heard through the wall. Good for him.

by ksf42001 on Jan 12, 2010 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

wow

that girl must have been really big.

Casually.

by CasualHoya on Jan 12, 2010 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

Was it you

or Lordnick that helped out AI with a much needed prophylactic in Copley?

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 12, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Victor Page

I had buddies that helped Victor Page out with herbal relaxing agents. By the bag.

Blip

by JahidiLikesPie on Jan 12, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but Victor Page was good

He doesn’t belong in this discussion.

by lordnick on Jan 12, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugly

But good. Not as good as he thought, however. I don’t believe when he left early that he thought his pro career would lead him to an illustrious career playing for the Sioux Falls Sky Force

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 12, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

goon

I partied with vic in sioux falls. I also watched vic chase a player with a broom handle during a game in sioux falls soon thereafter!

A better question is, what was I doing in sioux falls?

flip saunders invited me, that is what!

Blip

by JahidiLikesPie on Jan 13, 2010 12:22 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Oh, for a second there

I thought you were my Georgetown roommate, a native of Sioux Falls. And someone who ran into Vic quite often at the bars of Sioux Falls. Who’d of thought that many of us would have had drinks at Buddy’s?

I ate the blue ones ... they taste like burning.

by HoyaGoon on Jan 13, 2010 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Omariiiii!

Entirely a child of the Eshera, right?

KBE

by SirHoya on Jan 13, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

ran into him in memphis

at the game that we won due to forfeit.

good guy.

he was always recruited as a role player, not like the others which came with high hopes (except nikita)

Good talk.

by Hire Esherick on Jan 13, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Good guy

He also received the coveted Mary Fenlon student-athlete award, which will likely be far more meaningful over time. Still….the numbers for a schollie player….

by Quigleeee on Jan 13, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

ft % is surprising, especially for his position

but i chalk him up there with the tay spanns, josh thortons, reed rays, even omar wattads – never expected to do anything.

or even cheerleader # 1 sead dizdarevic.

at least faulkner not only graduated but used his degree. didnt he run for a congressional spot in memphis?

Good talk.

by Hire Esherick on Jan 13, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

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