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Old Dominion: A Budding Rivalry or Dangerous Trap Game?

Gotta be honest, when I first looked at the 2006-07 Hoyas schedule and saw Old Dominion, I thought the team was taking a trip to an amusement park.  After forty minutes of watching the Hoyas play like poppycock and listening to horrific chants of C-A-A from the Monarch faithful, I learned that Old Dominion was a lucky team from the Colonial Athletic Conference.  And that Georgetown was not worthy of their #8 ranking.  John Thompson III had this to say after the loss:

"Our group has along way to go, in spite of what people write about you, what people say about you.  I think our group is an honest group. We have questions that need to be answered. We've got a lot that we need to work out, and we're in the process of working through that."

Are there any similarities to this year, when #11 Georgetown plays Old Dominion at McDonough for the first time since that night in 2006 when the Monarchs handed the Hoyas their first on-campus loss in 24 years?  You betcha!  This game has trap game written all over it.  But is it a rivalry?  Is there anything more to the game that should entice students to skip studying for finals and fill the 2,500 seats at McDonough?

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The below champ certainly thinks so.  After the shocking loss, David Jones, an alum from the Old Dominion, had this to say in a letter to The Hoya:

To the Editor:

As an Old Dominion University alumnus and basketball fan, I want to congratulate the Hoyas on their fine effort Sunday. Your team is really coming together nicely. I particularly commend the superior coaching of John Thompson III. To come within 13 points of the Monarchs, even in your poor excuse for a high school gym, is quite a feat. Your kids really "nutted up" under the intense pressure that the Monarchs brought to bear.

The first time ODU played at McDonough Gymnasium in 1977, Georgetown lost 80-58. So, as the student body leaves campus to celebrate Thanksgiving, keep your chins up. You were well represented on Sunday.

Obviously, the gap has narrowed, and the Big East has become a real competitive conference. Heck, that was illustrated last year when Connecticut took George Mason into overtime. It's gotten to the point that I believe the Big East's top teams, on any given night, could defeat the bottom half of the Colonial Athletic Association. This type of parity is good for the game.

Again, thanks for giving ODU your best. Even though the Hoyas would be no more than a "trial horse" in the CAA, they played closely with ODU for 30 minutes. That was just the type of challenge a top conference team needs early in the season to get ready for conference play. If you were in the CAA, you would know what I am talking about.

See you next year in Norfolk.

David Jones

Old Dominion University Class of 1979

Are these fighting words, or a desperate plea for attention? You decide, I personally don't really think of Old Dominion as a rival, I mean any school that boasts 400 acres of ultimate entertainment for the entire family can't be that bad.

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via www.kingsdominion.com

As for the 2006-07 Hoyas, Thompson was spot on with that after-game quote.  The Hoyas did need a lot more work.  They ended up losing two of their next four games and dropped out of the Top 25, with a 4-3 record.  And then they won 26 of their next 29 games, resulting in a Big East Regular Season Title, Big East Tournament Title and Final Four appearance.  But what Davey Jones said above is right, the Hoyas probably would not have been able to beat the bottom half of the CAA, thankfully we met UNC and not the vaunted Georgia State Panthers in the Elite Eight.

Good talk.

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wow i totally forgot about that letter. What really pisses me off though is the HOYA. Why the fuck would you publish something like that? That really makes me want to crush ODU in this game. Fuck David Jones and who ever on the hoya allowed that to be published. The 18 point win in their place the following year was not enough. I want to crush them. Anything less then a complete drubbing will not be satisfying enough.

by hoyasincebirth on Dec 15, 2009 9:50 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Concur

I remember when that came out, I was probably just as pissed at whoever let that get published as at pathetic, middle-aged, self-righteous David Jones. Oh well, at least it got the adrenaline going. Screw ‘em. No rivalry here. Let’s pound the butterflies into submission on Saturday.

by CAHoya07 on Dec 15, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the HOYA

if they ever print an article like that about our own team again, I’m going to slap the HOYA’s editor-in-chief in the face with my “old dominion”

by Ed Sheppard on Dec 15, 2009 10:48 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

what a d-bag

that said – the KenPom stats really like ODU. He projects our next two games (ODU and Harvard) as being more difficult than our first two BE games. Little worried about this as a trap game, but you think we would know better. Please destory them.

Ken Pom projects us as 22-7 (losing to Duke) and 12-6 in the BE. I would take that season.

by bunk moreland on Dec 15, 2009 11:29 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

kenpom predicted us to go 17-1 in the Big East and win the Superbowl after beating UConn last year too

Good talk.

by Hire Esherick on Dec 15, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

give me a break

Kenpom lives in his mother’s basement with a box of hot pockets and a calculator. He doesn’t know what he is talking about and any betting strategy based on his stats would lead to bankruptcy and ruin.

by lordnick on Dec 15, 2009 11:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

setting aside his basement

I would take 22-7, 12-6. Espcially if we were playing well leading to the tournament.

And I think everyone here thought we were tourney bound after UConn last year. that collapse if why it tough to get too excited about any win until we beat Cuse at home.

by bunk moreland on Dec 15, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Uptight

That letter is great. How often does an ODU grad get to talk a little smack?
it would be like a football alum talking smack at a Howard party last year…OK bad example.
Good for David Jones for sending it & good for the editor for having the sense of humor & stones to print it.
Seriously, if you read that letter as being anything but tongue in cheeck, you need to have that large & uncomfortable object taken out of your pooper.
With that said, I hope we’re not caught sleeping on ODU in our highschool gym.

by BoatsNHoes on Dec 15, 2009 1:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

it's obviosuly tongue and cheek..

but odu should never be in the position to say something tongue and cheek at our expense. And our own newspaper shouldn’t publish it. It’s funny if you’re an ODU fan or a neutral fan. We’d be furious if a cuse alum wrote a letter like that.

by hoyasincebirth on Dec 15, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

but

would a cuse fan be capable of writing a letter like that?

Good talk.

by Hire Esherick on Dec 15, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Of course

A cuse fan can just threaten to beat up his girlfriend if she doesn’t write it for him (can we sill use these jokes even though devendork is gone?)

by lordnick on Dec 15, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But

That assumes that the ’Cuse fan has a girlfriend capable of writing.

What are these assertions!?

by DHB Enterprises on Dec 15, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

worst commercial ever

other than every kay jewelers commercial

Good talk.

by Hire Esherick on Dec 15, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Best commercial ever

-“Think she’ll remember this christmas?”

-“I know I will.”

Every Kiss begins with Kay

by Ed Sheppard on Dec 15, 2009 2:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Come on

If you live in DC, there is only one best commercial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6CslpftOe4

Documented

by itsallthatmatters on Dec 16, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

YOUR JOB'S YOUR CREDIT!

ford honda chevy beemer and minvans
over 600 cars suvs are you listening man?

by lordnick on Dec 16, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

how did we get so off-topic?

i was really hoping we’d get into the merits of hot pockets

Casually.

by CasualHoya on Dec 15, 2009 5:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

no reason these strands can't combine

“every sh1t begins with a hot pock-it”

by SirHoya on Dec 15, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Comedian & Gtown grad, Jim Gaffigan, used to do a funny routine on hotpockets

by BoatsNHoes on Dec 16, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ken Pom's Basement

I spent a couple of weeks in Ken Pom’s basement. He has a really nice old well. The walls have an artsy mosaic of fingernails from the other guests that have tried to climb out. He was very generous with the in-room lotion, as long as you put the lotion back in the basket.

by boumtje on Dec 15, 2009 10:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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